goose491

I can only wish for a life where my biggest problem is "too many boogies". Sigh.... LoL My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

I just recently received a raise. 3.25% of salary. It was considered to be one of the highest in my department. I guess you really have to know how the company is doing to judge how good it is but I would say that 4-5% is a great raise. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Hmmmm. Can I hold you to that Val? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Yeah, the guy he laid out had delivered a nasty hit to a Vancouver player and didn't get a penalty for it... IMO, 'twas a clean hit... but it don't matter. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Damn! Sorry to hear that Daize... {{{VIBES}}} coming your way from Ontario, Canada. Hoping all will sort out right, Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Noice!!! Congrats. Beautiful colors too! (check my rig) My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

You don't need to know anything about hockey to judge him. What he did was not hockey... what he did had nothing to do with hockey. A hockey fight is one thing... the fact that this attack took place on ice is the only thing that it has in common with a hockey fight. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Well that was nice

Well, the annoucement has been made. Bertuzi will not play another game this season (including playoffs) and whether or not he will play next season is yet to be decided. I am glad they are keeping him in suspense but I must say I was hoping to see a life ban from the league. Hockey is a contact sport. There has always been fighting. The owners, the players and the fans alike have fought very hard to keep the scraps legal as they are and always have been a part of this game. What happened here IMO is NOT a hockey scrap but a premeditated assault. I maintain that what transpired was no different than if I got up from my desk right now and clocked a workmate. It was disgusting and an example should be made before the sport takes a serious plunge for the worse. ... Anyone ever see the movie RollerBall? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

It happened... on an episode of the Simpsons. Crazy-Clown airlines. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

LOL, hmmm, there wouldn't happen to be anything special IN those deep breaths would there? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

This is covered in my post to Nightingale. One God, two covenants. As your children grown up, you extend their curfew, you raise their allowance, you stop telling them what is right and wrong, you begin to trust that they have a basic understanding, hope they make the right choices, and step in when required. We are Gods Children. This is exactly what he has done for us. Yes, and yes. Let me ask you how All seeing and All knowing (O & O) translate to flawlessness? The truth is, it doesn't. And the truth is, nowhere can you read, old testament or new, that God is whithout flaw. Are you trying to comprehend or trying to poke holes? Because it is plainly writen that God was disapointed (human emotion) and it is clearly writen that he wished to start anew with Noah and the Arc (Changes his mind). Character analysis of me? Or of God? Character analysis of God indicates that he has personality conflicts just like you and me. That he is troubled by decisions he has to make just like you and me. That he may know you before you are.. but that he is truly watching you unfold you life and hoping that you will see him and come to him. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Yeah, a popular cause of confusion. This is what I have been trying to point out however: it was the same God... but a new covenant. That is what is most important. Differences in behaviour? Yes! Differences in teaching? Not really. When I was a child, my parents may have spanked me when I did something wrong. Today, I am grown. I may still err at any given time. My parents no longer use corporal punishment... yet, are they not the same parents? Do they not wish the same things for me that they did when I was younger? Call God the mother/father of us all. Obviously, his people have evolved since the dawn. We are not the same people. Refer to my 'reboot' analogy and Jesus came at a point in time to bring in the new covenant. He is the one that went through hell, absolving the 'original sin' and changing the way it all works. It was part of the devine plan to Change the covenant at a time where we were ready to accept more responsibility. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Hehee, what was that directed at? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Might I suggest another good read for you? Holly Blood Hooly Grail by Michael Baigent. It touches on many great topics concerning the creation of man and the sacrifise of The Lords son Jesus. One interesting chapter speaks of an old religious sect called the Cathcars (sp? - I'll have to go home and check). Who fundamentally beleived that creation itself was an evil act. To create something where there was nothing before was a presumptuous or arrogant way to destroy the order that was... in nothingness. They embrassed their own dark sides in a manner of speaking thinking that if they were created in Gods image, that God himself had a dark side. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Well, honestly, where's the fun in that? The creation can only be summed up to an experiment. And what cooler experiment could there be than to create a mirror image that will host both good and evil and watch them duke it out until the end of time? This comes down to free will again. This Satan is no different than you or me. He was created by God yes, but with the free will to decide. He decided to take the responsibility of overseeing the dark... an important task I might add. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

and These are both from the old testament... but I'll bite. I don't deny the flood, and the reasons for it are well explained. He also apparently destroyed the the sodomites of Sodom and Gamora with fire and Brimestone raining from the sky. There is however a large difference between the God of the old testament and the God of the New. The God of the old testament was a vengeful one (An eye for an eye), he saw that he his people failed to obey his will and destroyed them. That was the flow of the operating system he had in place. The God of the new testament is a forgiving one. He realises that we are incapable of perfection and provided we make efforts to right our wrongs, he is happy. There is a new setup, a new operating system. We all know that when you intall a new operating system, you will need to reboot correct? This was Jesus' task. Jesus was put through 'the system' to reboot it. He was put on earth as a human, died for sins, he was put through hell and it all crashed... To bring in the new covenant. How humanity got tossed out of the garden may very well be a myth, but like many other myths, is told for a reason and holds very real lessons/morals. God gave us free will. It is not enough to love your neighboor if all there is is love. So, he created Love, he created Hate and most importantly, he created FREE WILL. We say unto the Lord "Thy will be done.", but do you not see that this has no meaning if we did not have a will of our own? One that may contradict his at times? My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Hmmm. A lot has transpired since I left this thread last eve... I'm surprised that nobody has provided this in my abscence. Matthew 13: 24-42 Jesus presented another parable to them saying "The Kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while his mean were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went away. But when the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the tares became evident also. The slaves of the landowner came and said to him 'Sir did you not sow good seed in your in your field? How then does it have tares?' And he said to them 'An enemy has done this!' The slaves said to him 'Do you want us, then to go and gather them up?' But he said, 'No; for while you are gathering up the tares, you may uproot the wheat with them. Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, "First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the weat into my barn.'" My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

I read that as a joke Zeni... and shows that he is knowlegeable on the topic. "Hope you turn into a cow!... oops, that don't work... cow=highest life form" ?? I could be wrong... but I don't think there was an attack made here. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Wrong... there is no spoon! Well, no... not at all. If you had read the "myths" (I prefer "parabols") but hey, 6 of one.... God planted a field of wheat, and in the night, the devil snuck through the field, sowing shaft seeds (shaft: weeds which closely resemble wheat, but are completely empty inside and stand much taller) Rather than destroy the entire field to start anew, it was decided that all the plants would be allowed to grow. He knew the weeds would choke out some of the good wheat but come harvest time, he would be able to seperate the shaft from the true good wheat. God did not throw the grenade... but he acted in the heart of the one who threw himself upon it. ***(as an aside, his suggestion that the wheat be put up in the barn rafters and that the shaft be burnt in a hole was where we all got the stupid idea stuck in our heads that 'heaven' is high up and that you burn in 'hell') Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

The analogy is meant to attack the word "Guilt" as it is presented by Zennister. You are to focus on the act of self-sacrifise rather than the act of trying to kill a crowd of people. We are all tainted by original sin, that part of us that compells us to act against his will. But the Christ was offered up by the Lord for us. One does not have to feel guilt for his death... Simply gratitude. Like the gratitude I would feel for the one who jumped on the grenade. Born in 1979, I most certainly do not feel guilty for Jesus' death. I am however, born with the original sin, for which he offered his life to absolve. What I feel is gratitude. Controling the masses using guilt is wrong, nowhere does it read in the Bible that we are to live our lives in constant shame of the fact that we killed our saviour. He was put here to die... to bring in the new covenant. Correct that the only guilty party would be the thrower. However, we've seen many a similar case and we all know that many among the survivors would fee guilt. That is the nature of my analogy. It points out that it is wrong to simply "feel guilty". You are not "guilty" because of original sin. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Yeah it's quite normal... heck, it's a near-death! Quite a story, glad you are able to tell it personally. Like the bytch said, don't worry about the skydiving right now... you've got other things to focus on. Vibes you to for a speedy recovery. Thanks for sharing the experience with your fellow jumpers. blues, Nick My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

Please try and appreciate that this is exactly what I mean when I say you could be hung up on terminology. Sin is but a word. The origin of the word means "to miss the mark," as in archery. What it means to sin is "to miss the mark" with respect to what God would expect of us. When you do something that would not be pleasing to God, you commit a sin. Now, you may not even beleive that there is a God -and that's well within your right- but as a human, you cannot say that you have never done anything against his will. His will is impossible to follow at all times. Thus the reason we say that all men are sinners. The guilt that it implicates... well, that's in the beholder. You do not have to feel remorse to have done something wrong. This is a terminology issue. I accept that I am not perfect. And that my imperfections mean, I can do bad things. I DO feel guilty when I wrong someone. I feel the need to make it right. This is the Christian way but obviously, you do not have to be Christian to feel the same. This, for me, is the most disconcerning part of your post. Saying that "Christ died for our sins" is not the same as saying "We killed Christ". I don't care who tells you it is... it's not. Back to the grenade in the crowd. If someone jumps on it to save the crowd.. are the members of said crowd 'guilty' for his death? Or are they simply Alive and owing some tribute to the deceased hero? My understanding of the concept of Karma is not flawed. My Karma ran over my dogma remember? hehe, that's why you'll not hear me asking you to go to church... I wouldn't have it... 'cause there are many parts of the Christian doctrine that I disagree with. The fact that all men and women, by nature, do things which contradict Gods very real desires is not one of them. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!

I often shake my head at "Religious Debates"... there should hardly be any such thing. Many times, people argue and argue without ever realising that they share many a similar point. Zenni, just because "Karma" is not a "Christian" term, does not mean it is lost on us. Christians, by nature, do not subscribe to the theory of reincarnation but so long as you mention it and Karma, it is important that you realise they are two different things. Karma is what tells you "What goes around, comes around" and Christians say: "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself". We understand Karma, and without ever uttering the word, we spread it's concept all over saying that YOU will be happier and YOU will be better off if YOU see value in helping/healing/comforting/loving OTHERS. As far as reincarnation? True you do not force upon me, the fact that I will come back as a swine... but on the other side of the "what happens when we die?" coin, Christians are no longer pushing "You are going to hell if you do not find Christ". Humans know nothing of the afterlife, we can share conflicting opinions but fundamentally, each religion dictates how one should live their current life. Everything else you say is simply Bashing.. I don't understand you motives in doing so. You can't deny the existance of SIN. I'm afraid you are stuck on terminology, saying SIN is a Christian term and does not apply to me. I'm sorry, but I'll bet my last dollar that you have sinned during your life to date and that you will sin again before your last day. It is how you deal with your personal mistakes that make all the difference. If you are worried about being reincarnated, for example, into a lower life form for living a shady, imoral life, than are you not also worried about your sins? Another thing: Christians say Jesus "died for our sins" and you say "No, he died for YOUR sins."... Hmmm, isn't that like saying "No, my buddy jumped on that grenade to save YOUR skin." when you were among those within it's blast radius? Long shot, I know... but I'm an analogy man. Forgive the long post, and I hope you have read it all open-minded. My simple point is that when someone tells you that Christ died for you, you should not take offense to it. It is not an offensive thing to say or do... I don't preach: "You'll find out when the trumpets sound" and I don't think any Christian is doing their faith a favor by doing so but at the very least. Be open-minded in a discussion about personal faith. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!!