Zenister

didnt you get the Frago? redheads are HPT and must be reported on sight Deland eh? already lining up flights for the FF tunnel camps this fall...and i hear theres a birdman or two down there as well... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

yeeks..noone told me Foz was a redhead.. how far to Raeford? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

is it Avis?? i thought it was Hertz and since i get cheaper rates thru corp with avis i chucked it when i got my new card...sry mon.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

ferret was cool, met him at Eloy.. me thinks id be hunting some roommates...agreeing to watch your stuff when your far away is part of the roomate clause... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i think the auction is a great idea ... 10 inches really wont affect your hair that much...although the shorter of the crew may have to jump to reach it pretty well, life has been occasionally boring of late and that is a recipe for trouble, but not as much as having a redhead come live with me will be shes doing much the same thing going to donate some of her flaming glory to the "locks of love program... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

actually without judges to verify, you dont. other wise good questions, who was the fifth? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

heal fast and well, hardcore ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

would that be the plot to "throw Mama from the plane"? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

if i am assuming a position of arrogant experience and making sweeping statements of cause and effect and solution with inadequate supporting data to justify my assertions of experience and using that position to argue for the adoption of mandatory regulation i hope that the "newbies" then will call me to task for it. nothing hypothetical about it..read Kallend post above for the a great deal of the fallacies being throw around as argument and 'proof' of a position. bad methods and and poor analysis remains an inefficient means of government and regulation no matter what generation it comes from. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

hmm i bet some of it does..wonder what the exfolate value of 13.5 ft 2/day is? ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

actually what we are discussing is the lack of statistics. no one is arguing that wings (the majority of parachutes being flown now) dont fly faster now than they did 10 years ago or that impacts at higher rates of speed dont produce more serious injuries than those at lower ones. this is primarily what we are discussing. what defines 'time in grade'? well this i dont understand. what exactly is the difference between 1000 and 100x10? neither number tells us of currency, or of training or natural ability or weather and terrain conditions i fail to see the difference you are eluding to. everyone want those tools, reduction of injury is always a worthy goal. What we dont want is to be forced to use them unless you can show clear evidence that they should be required. there is no argument as to if they would be beneficial to nearly everyone, and should be developed, incorporated into student training programs and studied by those who wish to pursue them once licensed. We should also make it a point to greatly encourage any and everyone to seek training and education where ever possible, but that does not justify making them requirements without clear evidence that there is a definitive increase in the number of injuries/deaths under HP canopies out of proportion to the total number of canopies being flown and the number of jumps being made on them. btw. i love how your assumption that my opinion will change once i have seen more people die skydiving, as if people dont die everywhere every day. Participation is sports such as skydiving merely increases your proximity to it. Increased participation can unfortunately also increase the frequency with which it is observed. That knowledge does not change my opinion, but we can certainly argue about it 10 years from now if you like. is pissed because he left his rig at home instead of taking to to work so now i'm arguing over the internet instead of jumping on a fine afternoon... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

ja, but then I didnt do it so...its just become part of my ritual..i try to do certain things the same way everytime, that way even when i cant consciously recall having done them (talking about a great dive while stowing brakes) i usually still have, and the packer checks them again...it only takes a half sec as i lay the canopy down and i look at the color when i do my pin checks too so... its good system for me, and i LOVE that the packer double checks it..she once caught me stowing my brakes above the ring...wasnt paying attention and did it wrong...could have been a 'fun' ride when the toggle fired.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i also cock my pilot chute, just so i know that its been done, but i always ask my packer to double check me, even when she knows i do these things.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i guess whatever works for you is cool, but i think the only way i'd consider a pullout is with a springloaded pilot chute ..i have to say there is a hell of a large burble behind me in a wingsuit... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

OOOOOOHHHHH Just wanted to get in in case of lock. This also reminds me of the girl that posted a while back pissed off that the artist currently known as Peppermint was using her picture. Whatever happened to that? your kidding!?! the 'girl' bitching about the picture was also Peppermint?? lol. and here i thought he/she/it only had issues...obviously they have all had a subscription for years... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i know at least two packers who want to start a movement to charge more for pullouts.. and of course they are no good for wingsuits so.... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

i'm sooooo tempted to make a tongue in cheek post about us needed a BSR for jumping while injured, but... glad to see you think about, understand and accept the risks you take when you skydive, and relevaluate them from time to time..everyone should do so, and everyone should be aware that many people accept the risks they take even when others see what they are doing as "insane" good job.. ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

well for the price of a jump ticket i pretty much did give them to her...i wasnt wearing them and she can fix the rip in the ass so.... not sure when i'll get to use the jump ticket, but its a pink one so i'll have to upgrade it... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

or you may take the "moral high ground" as exposed by your culture and spend the next 20 years being raped and tortured and wish you have followed your intution and shot your self after your buddy did... live or die is a personal decision, and there are far to many variables to make blanket statements like "its always wrong or always right" ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

sure it does. you're not disproving my point that just b/c a culture sanctions murder or suicide that such actions are right. If a culture espouses moral relativism, chaos ensues. And the universe is not chaotic. There is incredible order from a macro to micro scale. It's everywhere and to deny it is just baffling to me. uh..i'm not sure which universe your paying attention to, but ours is PLENTY chaotic, order is only a temporary state.... morality is relative to the culture not to the individual.. there are subcultures that have variations on moral themes, but they usually agree on the major points.. please prove that murder and suicide are "wrong" ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

so you have a point that I can't think of a rebuttle off the top of my head. but do YOU think that the life force of that heffer may in fact be the deceased George Troy? No? Why not? It either is or it isn't. Believing it is doesn't make it so. Believing it isn't doesn't either. no, i would think that returning as a cow would be a step down the spiral...a cat however ...but i'm also not presuming to tell another person (an entire culture really) that they are wrong!!! "i cant prove it, i just know it your wrong!!" ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

this conversation will always be reduced to you saying truth is relative and me saying that it isn't. I don't think it's demeaning to shoot someone in the head. They don't either. Bam. Done. Are we both right? Are we both wrong? both are right if the culture agrees.. example seppuku from pre-industrial Japan, where it was a place of honor to be asked to assist in the proper ending of a disgraced samurai. western culture calls suicide and assisted suicide immoral, but that doesnt mean we are "right" ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

Well umm I prefer to yell "Hey handsome" and watch all the guys heads turn in some hangers "Hey Asshole!" gets all the heads to turn too ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

note: not intended as blaspheme so do carpenters...and some cultures find them tasty as well... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.

18a. Selling a pair of da'Kine FF pants for a jump, cleaning the pockets and finding $20 and an Eloy jumpticket!