dreamdancer

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  1. no it's not. (that's like saying that science is a 'belief' system - it's an investigation of reality as it is) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  2. i had the whole lot from about the age of 8 - 11. i used to hold the bible for the vicar to read from at service. never trusted him and tried my best never to be alone with him. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  3. if you're into ayn rand then you need to watch this. excellent documentary... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz2j3BhL47c stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  4. no, i'm saying that teachers shouldn't pass their own personal views on the subject over my head. it's not in the curriculum and they're only 6 and 8. praying is a learnt behaviour and they can learn to do it, if they want, when they can make more sense of what they're being told. should i tell them all about sex too or wait till they're older... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  5. Certainly not! Just the Roman Pagan goddess worship of her. I'd use the book from which they base their faith to argue my case. Trust me, I can be much more personable than that. and when they say you're hurting their feelings you'd stop and agree with them? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  6. why on earth would they want to - they're only 6 and 8 and praying is something that has to be taught to them. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  7. another good christian... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  8. It is no more brainwashing than you brainwashing your children to be atheist. i do no such thing. they can make their own decisions when they are adult (when i said 'we' i meant my wife and i). the only time religion is brought up is when i have to handle the crap the teachers are telling them... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  9. so you'd belittle the virgin mary and tell the muslims that they're wrong about jesus. ok... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  10. Do you really think that saying a prayer and praying are the same thing? I can guarantee you that if somebody said a prayer out loud beside me, I would not be praying. Even if I was surrounded by 10,000 people saying a prayer, out loud all around me, I would not be praying. Even when somebody says, let us pray for the homeless. Even then I can think and ponder the plight of the homeless without actually praying. Never mind the brainwashing part. I think you need some prior brainwashing, before even considering that a possibility. we're talking about children here. for instance i've taken my two little ones out of school assembly where they have to pray. i call this brainwashing. we've told the teachers that we're atheist yet time and again my littlest one tells me that some teacher or other has told him that we don't die and that there is a heaven etc... brainwashing is exactly what it is. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  11. http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/599266/us_has_fourth-highest_income_inequality_rate_in_the_world/#paragraph2 stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  12. No, because they're not forcing me to... that's because you're not actually in that school. you've got to imagine that you are and that's what they're telling you to do (as in the case of damon). you can imagine a god - surely you can imagine yourself praying to the virgin mary or allah. you wouldn't want to hurt their feelings after all... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  13. they can have as many 'feelings' as they want. what they can't do is force even a single schoolchild to pray to their fantasy being... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  14. They can pray to an apparition of Mary on a grilled cheese sandwich for all I care... no, not 'they', will 'you' pray to the virgin mary if catholics are the majority in your school... or to allah if muslims are a majority... and if not, why not? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  15. except the police will always outgun you - as in this case... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  16. another point of view from israel... http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/strenger-than-fiction/netanyahu-s-win-is-israel-s-loss-1.364022 stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  17. time is running out for peace. from the israeli press... http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/netanyahu-s-peace-stance-is-running-israel-into-a-wall-1.364109 stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  18. look up 'police state' stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  19. having a gun was useless in this situation. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  20. http://www.alternet.org/story/151086/high_school_student_stands_up_against_prayer_at_public_school_and_is_ostracized_demeaned_and_threatened?page=entire stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  21. so is that a yes or no? - not like you to beat around the bush... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  22. or you can make a principled stand against religious brainwashing. perhaps those who want to pray can do it in their own homes and not force it on others... (and do you not understand the concept of separation of state and religion - what the school was doing was illegal) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  23. i think that's a 'yes, i would annihilate all arab countries'. step up to the plate amazon... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  24. religous brainwashing at its best... http://www.alternet.org/belief/151086/high_school_student_stands_up_against_prayer_at_public_school_and_is_ostracized%2C_demeaned_and_threatened stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  25. the flames are spreading... http://www.alternet.org/world/151065/spain%27s_enormous%2C_inspiring_protests_are_rooted_in_restoring_democracy_and_decent_life_in_an_era_of_turbocapitalism/ stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding