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  1. dreamdancer
    same as pretty much every other state - how many wars has europe had amongst its numerous countries? you're not special. you're not being picked on. remember it was palestine that was attacked and 'wiped out of existence'. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    you agree that israel launched a surprise attack on egypt in 1956... well? Seems that Egypt brought that upon themselves, too. Just a continuation of the war started by the Arabs in '48. back into your shell then (see how i led you on that my position was weak and then launched a surprise attack - works in debates too
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    you agree that israel launched a surprise attack on egypt in 1956... well? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    'Israel has not been secure since its inception' it had the backing of the un and the world's superpower - of course it was secure. not safe perhaps - but secure... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    or they led the opposition countries into a position where a first strike could be seen as 'acceptable' by its allies - feigning weakness until they were ready... That would have been a stupid strategy. no, that's a perfectly acceptable military strategy - if israel was sure of its air power - lead the opposition until they are where you want them to be. they knew russia wanted a war - just had to be patient... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    so the egyptian plan was to defeat israel economically... Yes, militarily and economically ...and not just Egypt. And not just a plan ...it was in the process of being made to happen. you assume militarily - but no shots had been fired. perhaps the egyptian plan was just to increase pressure economically. as you admit this would have probably worked... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    but there was no surprise advancement... Israel made sure that wasn't going to happen. they may have been wrong that it was going to happen at all. in which case they started a war for... what? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    the opposition air forces had been decimated so that threat had gone... Yes, afterwards. They weren't decimated when the decision was being made. the opposition air forces were no longer a threat - israel was secure. why did they then launch a ground attack? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    you agree that israel launched a surprise attack on egypt in 1956... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    help from the world's superpower (backed by the un) was on its way. israel was not alone and never had been... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    or they led the opposition countries into a position where a first strike could be seen as 'acceptable' by its allies - feigning weakness until they were ready... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    so the egyptian plan was to defeat israel economically... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  13. dreamdancer
    but there was no surprise advancement... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  14. dreamdancer
    the opposition air forces had been decimated so that threat had gone... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    looks like israel won the war on the first day... http://what-when-how.com/social-sciences/arab-israeli-war-of-1967-social-science/ stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    i tried to find a fairly neutral source for some background info. i can't tell from the article whether it is pro israel or pro palestine - just background facts. for instance i didn't know of the russian involvement. it seems they were egging egypt into war with misinformation as a way of bringing pressure to bear on the us (who were then getting entangled in vietnam). here's a bit more about the 'suez crisis': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suez_Crisis stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    I have no idea who this website is but i'd take anything that dude posts as questionable at best... so you can't refute it - did israel accept the us offer of an armada or not? if you don't know look it up and get back to us with some facts and not endless reruns of your opinion... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    don't know 'who' they are but the historical info they present (which we're debating at the moment) seems to be reliable comparing to the several other sites i've just taken a look at. if the info is not correct then falfoxori can refute it from his own sources... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    http://what-when-how.com/social-sciences/arab-israeli-war-of-1967-social-science/ stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    disgusting... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/saudi-force-trained-by-uk-2290673.html stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13589193 stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    bit of background... http://what-when-how.com/social-sciences/arab-israeli-war-of-1967-social-science/ stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  23. dreamdancer
    And again, by violating the terms of the armistice the effective status was a state of war. Shooting is not the only way to start a war. another way is to declare you're a new state (but you happen to be on someone else's land)... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    obama is a christian stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
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    from your link: stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding