dreamdancer

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  1. It was a WORLD war, and Amazon has already noted that the Arabs were participants. Funny how that works... you LOSE a war after committing heinous acts against your foe... you tend to lose your land.. yeah that sucks... its been happening like that for how many millenia? the palestinians haven't lost yet... (how much land did the germans lose?) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  2. How well did that work for the victims of genocide in Rwanda or Yugoslavia? Both occurred in the 90s. both rwanda and yugoslavia still exist (i've given you an easy hook there to reply to)... so easy, what's the point? Give a less insipid argument first. And btw, how old is your map that still shows Yugoslavia on it? went for the hook
  3. It was a WORLD war, and Amazon has already noted that the Arabs were participants. the middle east had been colonised by europe - hard for them not to be involved in another of our wars... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  4. so not really concentration camps then. why not call them refugee camps which is what they are and dump the hypberbole? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  5. You have hit the nail on the head hear. Yes, Palestinians have been wronged, so you're happy to let the palestinians pay the price for the european holocaust of the jews... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  6. With the HELP of the British? Are you saying the British, wanted, the Jews there? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917_Balfour_Declaration stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  7. By "you" I meant "a person". No one has to call them anything. They are what they are. yes, refugee camps. concentration camps - as you are well aware - has a special connotation which you invoke when using the term... Yes ...it does. in that case you're just being silly... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  8. is this letter true? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  9. How well did that work for the victims of genocide in Rwanda or Yugoslavia? Both occurred in the 90s. both rwanda and yugoslavia still exist (i've given you an easy hook there to reply to)... so easy, what's the point? Give a less insipid argument first. And btw, how old is your map that still shows Yugoslavia on it? went for the hook
  10. same in the uk... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Yamamah_arms_deal stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  11. and hotter... http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/may/31/oxfam-food-prices-double-2030 stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  12. http://www.palestinehistory.com/history/faq/faq.htm#faq14 stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  13. The "neighboring countries" did/do not give a damn about the Palestinians. Never have. They went to war to eliminate Israel and they continue to use the Pals as expendable chess pieces in their efforts. I can't see into their hearts and minds but I can see what they have said and done and and what they continue to say and do. Same for the Israelis. I don't know how many different ways I can say that the Islamic Middle Eastern countries, to include non-Arabs as well, are using the Palestinians' condition, mostly caused by them, to incite hatred against Israel and to rally sympathy for their "cause". a while back you could have said that the european countries were using the jews' condition, mostly caused by them, to incite hatred against germany and rally sympathy for their zionist cause. you can say all sorts of twisted things. just because a people have had an injustice done to them doesn't mean they can then return that injustice to a different people... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  14. By "you" I meant "a person". No one has to call them anything. They are what they are. yes, refugee camps. concentration camps - as you are well aware - has a special connotation which you invoke when using the term... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  15. How well did that work for the victims of genocide in Rwanda or Yugoslavia? Both occurred in the 90s. both rwanda and yugoslavia still exist (i've given you an easy hook there to reply to)... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  16. if israel had chosen some unoccupied land for its new state then also none of this would have happened... seems overdue for you to address Amazon's point that more land was seized from Jews in lands outside Israel than Israel itself compromises. Call it a land swap. doesn't help the palestinians does it? unless you're suggesting that they should move into these properties and become the new jewish diaspora. i'm not denying that the jews have had a hard time in recent history. but where was the worst time they had - europe or the middle east? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  17. pps. neighbouring countries went to war for the palestinians. they lost - but you can't say they didn't try to help... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  18. ps. you're the one calling them 'concentration camps' - not me... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  19. the refugees were seeking refuge from israeli violence - duh. during the second world war peoples fled from their aggressors all over europe - then they returned to their own countries. palestinians have no desire to be citizens of any country other than palestine. why would they want to be called 'jordanians' or 'egyptians' or any other name than palestinians? not long now and they'll be able to return to their own country and have their own capital
  20. Semantics. But my point is that the "refugees" fled Israel (even though they were considered citizens of Israel) seeking "refuge" from their Arab brothers and were instead rounded up and imprisoned by the Egyptians and Jordanians in "refugee" camps. Here's a list of the concentration camps. Note that the ones in the WB and Gaza predate 1967 and most predate 1952 ...and, in fact, all the camps in Gaza predate 1950. semantics is calling refugee camps 'concentration camps'. semantics is saying that they were considered citizens of israel when they had no desire to be citizens of israel. semantics is saying they were seeking refuge 'from' neighbouring countries when they were seeking refuge from israeli violence. semantics is calling the populations of neighbouring countries 'arab brothers' when in fact they are completely different countries with different traditions and different history. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  21. i think you'll find it is israel herding palestinians into the gaza strip... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  22. and your reason for launching a surprise attack on egypt in 1956 was...? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  23. if israel had chosen some unoccupied land for its new state then also none of this would have happened... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  24. as does palestine... (against even greater odds. surely you can respect them for that?) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding
  25. presumably we're talking about the gaza strip here... stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding