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what is the difference? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

Being repeatedly accused (either openly or by implication) of racism would tend to make you touchy, don't you think? no, you're just overly touchy. and anyone who doesn't understand the importance of race in the us and its history is being very silly (why are all those blacks in prison) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

Marc – would you suggest/cite/link to some of those research sources that I haven’t looked at previously? Seriously. What have you seen that I have missed? And where specifically do you see evidence that torture worked? You do realize that information obtained from KSM that being touted as having “prevented an attack on LA” was obtained (1) by the FBI agents using traditional interrogation before the CIA contractors arrived, and (2) supplemented by information recovered from a computer hard drive, yes? VR/Marg SOME, of the info was obtained by traditional interrogation. I cant remember the name of the CIA chief on Fox a couple of weeks ago denied that most of the info was obtained that way. He stated that some was but he stopped. The most actionable was recieved when other methods were used. i will see if I can find the transcript He was Fox News Sunday and others that same day Very substantive. it's all written down on a scrap of paper he keeps safe in his tinhat stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

you seem very touchy about the whole 'racial' thing

it'll take a while (twenty or thirty years perhaps) but if the us doesn't prosecute them then the icc will stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

yes, it appears very likely that cheney was torturing not to get the 'truth' but to fabricate evidence - in this case terrorist links to iraq - what do you think of that? I think you need new tin hat! perhaps you can lend me one from your vast collection

yes, it appears very likely that cheney was torturing not to get the 'truth' but to fabricate evidence - in this case terrorist links to iraq - what do you think of that? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

nationalist drivel stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

http://www.alternet.org/rights/139998/plot_thickens_after_cia_%27ghost_prisoner%27_tortured_into_giving_iraq-al_qaeda_connection_is_found_dead_in_libya/?page=entire stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

if you (the american people) don't get bush the icc will

Not that simple but, i feel the application applied in our case, no That's what I thought. And it clarifies your support for Cheney's argument. But honestly, thank you for giving me a direct answer. Legal advice was given to the Bush admin Congress was briefed multiple times specifically on what was going on. Just because Obama NOW says he will not use the technique does not make it torture or illegal. The debate that is going on today is a political circus show to satisfy the loony left fringe to keep Obama’s like-o-meter numbers high, period. Nothing will come of this except a dangerous president of political criminalization tactics to bully the other side into submission (by both sides). It needs to stop meanwhile, the paranoid right wing continue to deny torture is torture. No, torture is torture. YOU just need to redefine what it is to keep the side show going you're the one keeping the show going with your refusal to face reality (no, they weren't death camps you say - they were 'work' camps) It has got to be terribly frustrating to be loosing this one the way you are........ keep on denying reality (mc hearts cheney) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

Not that simple but, i feel the application applied in our case, no That's what I thought. And it clarifies your support for Cheney's argument. But honestly, thank you for giving me a direct answer. Legal advice was given to the Bush admin Congress was briefed multiple times specifically on what was going on. Just because Obama NOW says he will not use the technique does not make it torture or illegal. The debate that is going on today is a political circus show to satisfy the loony left fringe to keep Obama’s like-o-meter numbers high, period. Nothing will come of this except a dangerous president of political criminalization tactics to bully the other side into submission (by both sides). It needs to stop meanwhile, the paranoid right wing continue to deny torture is torture. No, torture is torture. YOU just need to redefine what it is to keep the side show going you're the one keeping the show going with your refusal to face reality (no, they weren't death camps you say - they were 'work' camps) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

Right, because no-one ever said that waterboarding was torture and therefore illegal before Obama came along. No, that didn't happen at all, it's totally a new thing that's happened since Obama took office to make him look like the good guy and that's, like, definitely the only reason people are talking about it. Right. it's all an obama tinhat conspiracy

Not that simple but, i feel the application applied in our case, no That's what I thought. And it clarifies your support for Cheney's argument. But honestly, thank you for giving me a direct answer. Legal advice was given to the Bush admin Congress was briefed multiple times specifically on what was going on. Just because Obama NOW says he will not use the technique does not make it torture or illegal. The debate that is going on today is a political circus show to satisfy the loony left fringe to keep Obama’s like-o-meter numbers high, period. Nothing will come of this except a dangerous president of political criminalization tactics to bully the other side into submission (by both sides). It needs to stop meanwhile, the paranoid right wing continue to deny torture is torture. stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

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only an idiot like cheney can think that torture works (there's a nice cell at the icc waiting for him) http://www.alternet.org/rights/139993/how_americans_came_to_support_torture%2C_in_five_steps/ stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

Do you think eveyone else on this site is blind??? just you, my little rightwing friend

some news from the homefront

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Its a thing with JR and his multitude of threads about Ye Olde Englande Maybe. I tend to think that John is trying to use the English experiences as a tool to argue about US policies, which is reasonable, since he lives in the US, and is a citizen. http://www.alternet.org/story/139929/the_gop_clings_to_guns%2C_gays%2C_god%2C_and_%22go-home%22/ stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

found this interesting

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5301078/Barack-Obamas-rich-supporters-fear-his-tax-plans-show-hes-a-class-warrior.html stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding

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