diablopilot

Thanks for your input Jan. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

I guess she never met team "Pull My Finger". ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

Doh! ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

It's not scary till the risers are wrapped AROUND the body, and your "partner" is throwing out a P/C under you. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

I hear what you're saying, but I feel it needs to be pointed out, we're Instructors (of skydiving) first and formost, and second to that is the method specific stuff. (AFF, SL, IAD, Tandem). The operative words is instructor and there for the experience should be higher than that of the introductory instructional rating, i.e. Coach. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

If you have to ask.......... ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

I never found it embarrassing to be "new". I still feel like I've got more to learn each day. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

Some people just can't take a joke. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

I've considered it, but I'm not troubled by it. I feel the standards of instructors needs to come up in this sport as the traditional methods of keeping people safe are falling by the wayside. For whatever reasons, cost, generational, media; mentorship is loosing ground both within the student ranks as well as the ranks of instructors. Toughening things up a bit might discourage some, but I think the requirements are still very achievable, and a better crop of talent may come of it. Good luck John, I know you'll make a good I/E should you push for it. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

They are still pretty vague. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

I am. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

A million in skydiving? ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

Eh, that's not really different than what DZ.com is, and I have no desire to compete in that medium. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

I'd be game, but don't know the first thing about publishing. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

I'd do what ever it took to defend my person and property from injury/damage till I could get away from the animal. Then I'd march over to the owner and demand restitution. The ball would then be in their court. I of course wouldn't be heart broken if they decided to try to take it to the mat. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

From what I heard, after thirty + years, the owners just decided to hang it up and relax. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

Agreed. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

That's fair enough, hell, I might feel differently if I had a dog in this fight. I just think that some of the attitudes on the thread, that it's death on a stick if you even attempt it, are a bit reactionary. I wouldn't say death on a stick. Heck, I might be able to pull it off. The problem is there is no margin for error, and the requestee's want the USPA to hang it out there for them. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

So what. The world's greatest aerobatic pilot with an FAA waiver to perform maneuvers down to 0 altitude isn't going to get out if he clips an obstacle or simply breaks the plane (Sean Tucker had to bail out after breaking a linkage in his Pitts) when exercising those privledges. We accept much higher risks in that environment provided that an airshow line is in place, and shouldn't be differentiating between the different sorts of pilots. The worlds greatest acrobatic pilot is not asking the USPA to endorse his/her act. He/she convinced the FAA to give them permission. "So what" is that I don't want the organization that I pay $80+ dollars a year to expose it's self to the liability of such a stunt. There will be NO benefit to the USPA, or it's members. I like the benefits I receive with my membership. This stunt has a higher chance of going horribly wrong, and if so a lawyer would have a field day with it as it is obviously outside of the "norm". Such a lawsuit would endanger the existence of the USPA and the benefits I enjoy as a member. If the requestee's can find a way to pull off the stunt, more power to them. Convincing the FAA to allow it is what they need to do. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

What part do you not understand about it actually being safe when done properly by trained professionals? The part about no room for error. If you ever get a chance to talk to or listen to a lecture on stunts from BJ Worth or Tom Sanders or Jake Brake they will drive home that the trained professional always has room for error built in. A professional stunt is engineered to look dangerous, not be dangerous. By the way, I am a trained professional. Bingo. The worlds best will not be able to get a belly mount reserve deployed on a 400 foot AGL opening in a wingsuit if they experience a PC in tow. Period. And that is precisely what the original request was. No one on the USPA BOD is stopping anyone from doing said stunt, they simply have said collectively that they and the USPA will not endorse it. It's one FAA FSDO that has put the requirement on the requestee's to get USPA approval. And FAA HQ has said "no way, no how." ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

Hang on a minute, we're out to lunch. We'll be back shortly, to set the trend in "fuck-up'ed-ness". ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

I agree. One thing I wonder however is why this guy is focusing on Arabic? We do have a much bigger issue in the Latino community don't we? Ditto on the agree..... I'm going to agree with you on the Spanish being a larger problem as well. I'll suggest that the reason he's focusing on Arabic is because he might be a racist fuck? ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

Ever hear from lady #1 again? ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

Actually she has, and her mother is a current skydiver and USPA judge.

I have no idea. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.