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[reply>Or it could be that nano-thermite was sprayed inplace of the >fireproofing which was sprayed just before 9-11. Like I said, I love the "secret nano-thermite" angle. Not as funny as the "missile with a 757 hologram generator", true. But still an excellent effort. I really like the indestructible passport line our government put out! I also appreciate that bit about the "how to fly a jetliner " video being left in the hijackers cars! It must have been those Muslims! One of my most favorites though, is that footage they showed on all the stations that night of the muslms celebrating in foreign countries. Turned out that was file footage of a palastinian wedding. The truth is that on that night many muslim countries were holding candelight vigils and mourning our loss. Of course that footage wouldn't have done much to convince the masses to support an invasion of Afganistan. And what about those devout Muslims leaving their Koran in the nudie club? Who put out that story? Or the babies being thrown out of the incubators onto the floor. Or the torpedoes being fired by the North Vietnamese. Or the sinking of the Lusitania. And "remember the Maine". I see your point ,Bill. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

So I take it ,Bill, that you believe something like,"Directed by a beardy-guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah... Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, passengers and pilots on four planes... And hangover or not, they manage to give the world's most sophisticated air defense system the slip... Unphased by leaving their “How to Fly a Passenger Jet” guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls in no-time and score direct hits on two towers, causing THREE to collapse completely... Our masterminds even manage to overpower the odd law of physics or two... and the world watches in awe as steel-framed buildings fall symmetrically - through their own mass - at free-fall speed, for the first time in history. Despite all their dastardly cunning, they stupidly give their identity away by using explosion-proof passports, which survive the fireball undamaged and fall to the ground... only to be discovered by the incredible crime-fighting sleuths at the FBI... …Meanwhile down in Washington... Hani Hanjour, having previously flunked 2-man Cessna flying school, gets carried away with all the success of the day and suddenly finds incredible abilities behind the controls of a Boeing... Instead of flying straight down into the large roof area of the Pentagon, he decides to show off a little... Executing an incredible 270 degree downward spiral, he levels off to hit the low facade of the world's most heavily defended building... ...all without a single shot being fired.... or ruining the nicely mowed lawn... and all at a speed just too fast to capture on video... ...Later, in the skies above Pennsylvania... So desperate to talk to loved ones before their death, some passengers use sheer willpower to connect mobile calls that otherwise would not be possible until several years later... And following a heroic attempt by some to retake control of Flight 93, it crashes into a Shankesville field leaving no trace of engines, fuselage or occupants... except for the standard issue Muslim terrorists bandana... ...Further south in Florida... President Bush, our brave Commander-in-Chief continues to read “My Pet Goat” to a class full of primary school children... shrugging off the obvious possibility that his life could be in imminent danger... ...In New York... World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein blesses his own foresight in insuring the buildings against terrorist attack only six weeks previously... While back in Washington, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz shake their heads in disbelief at their own luck in getting the 'New Pearl Harbor' catalyzing event they so desired to pursue their agenda of world domination... And finally, not to be disturbed too much by reports of their own deaths, at least seven of our nineteen suicide hijackers turn up alive and kicking in mainstream media reports..." Yeah ,Bill, you may be right. Or it could be that nano-thermite was sprayed inplace of the fireproofing which was sprayed just before 9-11. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Quote ...it didn't matter ...it didn't matter ...it didn't matterQuote The fact is what the President thinks really doesn't matter. This country is run by corporations. You,skyrider, seem worried about socialism . I think you haven't noticed the facism. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

So, when are you going to show where all the explosives were planted? You know - the ones that NOBODY in the building saw. Interesting is that nano-thermite can be sprayed on to surfaces. It is also interesting to me that the fire proofing which was sprayed on just a short while before 9-11 didn't prevent the fires from collapsing the buildings. Where were the explosives? Why didn't anyone see them? They may have been in plain sight. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

The Hebrew God demanded his followers to sacrifice their foreskins to him! Now here is a story which relates the suffering of Jesus and his embarrasement as a child. Little Jesus was in class on show and tell day and one of the Pharisees' sons stood up and proclaimed,"My father has the largest collections of seashells in the world!" Next the son of a Roman general stood up and announced, " My father has the largest collection of foreign coins in the world". Little Jesus was next. He stood up and had to announce,"My father has the largest collection of prepubecent foreskins in the world!" A strange deity for sure. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

QuoteI used the gum. What it came down to was understanding that you will never be an ex-smoker. You will only be a smoker who isn't smoking. Quote Interesting in light of the fact that not too long ago someone on one of these forums was asking if he was still a skydiver even though he hadn't jumped in a while. The general consensus was ,No! He was a former skydiver or an ex-skydiver. He definately was not and should not consider himself to be a "skydiver". But a smoker can never be an "ex-smoker'? I take exception to that statement! As a matter of fact ,I find that statement to be fundamentally flawed! As an ex smoker myself I realize that between the times one puts out a cigarette and lights the next one , essentially and by definition , that person is a *non-smoker*. Also I realise that in the time period between the last jump and the next jump(even if it is within the time it takes to throw on another rig and meet the plane) each of us is an ex- or former skydiver. Don't tell me about what cha "gonna' do". When you're not actually in the air you ain't no skydiver and if you ain't got no fag in your mouth you ain't a smoker. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Quote[ Dude, you're a fucking idiot. Ive seen people in psych wards smarter than you.Quote I wonder ,millertime 24, what you were doing in those psych wards. As far as being an "idiot", that may be true. Thing is I have lots' of rich people wantin' ol' Cliff to come fix their sceptic problems all the time. I ain't real bright! I know that! But I know my shit. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Or was the "life" they led useless? Give me liberty or give me death is the mantra of Freemen! What a horrible existence! I'd prefer death as to life as a sheep! It may be that you would prefer to be enslaved. Call me the Master!!! Blues, Cliff AS much as you TROLL around here.. thats a lot of BAITERQuote Oh my ! .., What have I done ? I have a trans sexual stalking me around the internet! Had I'd known I never would have brushed with that Crest+Listerine! It simply makes you irresistable to all kinds of people of every sexual persuasion! My breath is sweet and clean now! Don't believe me just watch as Amazon leans in to kiss me! Military men, take my word, don't use that Crest + Listerine in the fox hole. Your buddy might not be able to control himself and then you'ld have that whole "don't ask don't tell " thing to deal with. Better to wait until you get back to brush with Crest + Listerene. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

OH I get it now.. you are really a Dr Frankenfurter wannabe wishing you were a self-proclaimed "sweet transvestite from Transsexual, Transylvania" . BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Nope.. try again Janet. OK.., You're waiting on the operation but have already been taking the hormones? Blues, Cliffi 2muchTruth

Or was the "life" they led useless? Give me liberty or give me death is the mantra of Freemen! What a horrible existence! I'd prefer death as to life as a sheep! It may be that you would prefer to be enslaved. Call me the Master!!! Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

[reply LOL!!! I was going to comment but.., You are just too kinda weired! My "precious body fluids"! LOL!! Are you some kind of suck it all in transgender dracula? Blues, Cliff OH I get it now.. you are really a Dr Frankenfurter wannabe wishing you were a self-proclaimed "sweet transvestite from Transsexual, Transylvania" . Quote Hit the nail on the head ,didn't I? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

[reply You just can't make a slave out of one who knows he is Free. Blues, Cliff So how many of the 50 to 70 million people who died in WWII were freemen like you??? Quote I don't know how many Freemen died during that war. I do know that they died "Freemen". So what are you getting at? Would you personally prefer to live in chains or die Free? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

[reply DUUUUUUUUUDE coming from you that is freaking hilarious... all that paranoia of everything..... QUICK check the back windows... they are watching you.... they want your precious bodily fluids. as far as the 2 hours+.... nope...they will get ou a lot faster than that. LOL!!! I was going to comment but.., You are just too kinda weired! My "precious body fluids"! LOL!! Are you some kind of suck it all in transgender dracula? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Of course. Freemen are never oppressed. They are always and will always be "Freemen". So yes, and thank you. I've never"endured" oppression. You just can't make a slave out of one who knows he is Free. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

I'd say 2hours and 27 minutes 33 seconds and another hit of what ever you're taking. Psychedelic blues, Cliff . 2muchTruth

Perhaps you would prefer to live as a sheep than die as a lion? If so I'm sure you can be accomadated. Here's a lesson, and I won't charge but instead I'll simply subject you to this commercial message; I was a young man and I thought I knew it all. I did know it all! Or so I thought! What is that big titted blonde saying? What about that tight assed brunette? Fact is I didn't know it all! I wasn't versed in foreign languages. The Rosetta stone changed all that! Today I know what those women were saying! They were from different countries but I have mastered both languages and 12 more. Since suscribing to the Rossetta stone I have been able to translate what those two ladies and so many others have said. They have been commenting on my physique! "What an ass!!" they say ! "What an ass"!! Thank you for reading, But back to "the choice". Freemen are always Free. If they are subject to death they die Free. The Americans and the US military seem to put such a premium on life. Maybe because they just don't understand that Freedom is more important than life. Perhaps if they realized that they may better know their enemy. Ahh! But.., The enemy is us. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Quote>Do you really believe your source,Bill? Do I believe it 100%? Nope. Do I believe it more than the ramblings of conspiracy theorists? Yep. Quote Wait ...It's a video tape! You are gonna talk percentages? It's either 100% or nothing! Do you believe 100% that the man on that tape is Usama Ben Laden ? It was vetted by the CIA!! But the star of the show has on a gold ring and is right handed. Do you believe 100% ,Billvon, that that tape shows Osama Ben Laden confessing to the crimes of 9-11-01? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

No, they didn't. They may have given them away but certainly they weren't taken away. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Well , the commies were a great "Al-Queida" for a while. Thing is you've got to change up the *enemy* every now and then so the people don't wonder why you're not making progress. And again, the fact that we are killing Muslims and not Israelis might give one a hint as to which of the two has actually infiltrated our government. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

Congratulations,pbwing, on your powers of prognastication! When you come to realize that Freedom isn't given and can't be taken away you'll understand what nonsense it is that some military force has *protected * it. You have a long journey. I hope you easily follow an enlightend path. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

The simple and easily supported fact ,Bill , is that it is not Muslims who have infiltrated the government, it is the Israelis. I don't know if you've noticed but we are not making war against Israel. We are making war against the Muslims. So given that fact.., which of those two groups do you believe has most likely infiltrated our government? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

I don't know why they were fighting, pbwing, but I'm certain that I was born free and never needed any ones' help to maintain that status. As a matter of fact I could skydive straight down into Tiennamen square and I would still be a Freeman. So thank all those American Vets for me. Tell them ,"Thanks for nothin'!" Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

[reply " Using access to classified documents " Sorry dude , You lost me right there. Who is this author who has access to classified documents and if he really does he obviously is not to be trusted. He's writing a book based on this information? Classified information? LOL! I don't see your author as a credible source. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

No ,you weren't comprehending what you read that I wrote, SkyChimp. I said MI6 was behind the subway bombings in Great Britain on 7/7 and I stand behind that statement. Now as far as this Ft Hood shooter chanting "Alah Akbar" many eyewitnesses are on record as not hearing that. Did he say that? I don't know . I wasn't there ! What I do know is that ever since I started using Crest +Listerine my breath is so much fresher and my teeth much whiter! Don't believe me ? Just lean in and kiss me big boy! We don't have to tell! But seriously, I think if you switch to Crest + Listerine you'll be amazed by the results!!! I also know,Sky Chimp that guns and bombs and war war and soldiers will never and can never make us a free people. Only Truth can make us Free. The Truth is that we are all already Free. Most of us have yet to realize that. Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth

So, as I'm sure that all patriotic Americans will agree that government derives its' just power from the consent of the governed; has anyone here consented to be lied to by the government? Even one of you? Anyone? And if the government lies to you, how can you make an informed decision on how to vote next time? Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth