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I never said the Agents handled it right! They really didn't BUT the driver of the car approached the incident WRONG. Had he rolled his window all the way down, answered a couple questions, he'd have been on his way with no problem. The driver set it up and the Agents let that asshole get to them. I do believe, this is a rather 'isolated' incident. The Agents I've dealt with have handled things more professionally. The Agent here, might have been a rookie. Your defense of this guy is a bit mis-guided... I think. Plain and simple... the driver was acting like a jerk and has had previous encounters similar to this. Got NO sympathy for him. Chuck

Well, since you're apparently a Brit then we can agree to disagree on civil liberty and the rights of American citizens since we're not talking about your rights against the Crown. We kicked out the tyrant a few hundred years ago, and today we've got a few un-American cowards to deal with, but such is the conflict between freedom and tyranny. Some think the government should be able to push around citizens for any reason they want (being a "dickhead", looking at an agent funny, or whatever bogus reason they come up with). They are apologists for tyranny, have little understanding of American history, and live off the fleeting freedom that was earned by greater people than themselves, like a spoiled rich kid who will later bankrupt the family business because he never developed the character required to do great things. But this is just philosophy. The fact is, the Agents in this video broke the law. The driver broke no laws. When he wins his federal lawsuit and their tax money goes to him and his lawyers, some will still talk the same baloney, still cheerlead for the erosion of their right to exist and not be screwed with by armed, lying, intrusive government. "A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill The guy in the car acted like a jerk, right from the start. Had he approached the incident like someone with some sense, he would've saved himself a big headache. As for getting what he deserved... yes! It's like I said earlier... if he wasn't such a self-centered jerk, he've been all-right. Too often, people bring things on themselves. Chuck

Seems to me, we as a nation, have gotten quite paranoid and as usual, there's someone out there who is going to profit from it. Chuck

These video systems are going out the door at a local place of business like I cant believe. Cameras that look like car remotes, pens (that write) with batteries that can record 90 minutes of audio and video. I have a friend who is cross ways with the local police here (long story and not the point). He has one for the next time they stop him. He is not a trouble maker and this has more to do with ex wives and the like but they just like to stop him and he has had enough. Over sized load excorts are buying the kind that attach to the mirro like this one and will record more than 24 hours and these devices are cheap My point? I dont know that he has this just to get it on with the BP I really think, the guy is mad because he has to pass through a check-point. Now, he's got an "I'll get you, you son of a bitch!" attitude. Had he just rolled down his window... all the way, he wouldn't have put the Border Patrol Agent 'on guard' and would have had to have answered a couple quick questions and been on his way. I get the impression, the guy is an arrogant, self-centered jerk who 'needs' his fanny spanked. I agree, he's out to get the Border Patrol for hindering his life-style. Chuck Maybe, but the BP lied more than once when they said (as an initial question) they asked if he was a US citizen I really dont know and I dont know why he has the recorder. My post was to just let you know these things are out there all over the place for varing reasons. And they cost very little My wife did a search of 'what's out there' in regards to the type devices you mentioned. What is 'out there' would make James Bond look like ahare-cropper! You're right too, about that stuff being cheap! Chuck

These video systems are going out the door at a local place of business like I cant believe. Cameras that look like car remotes, pens (that write) with batteries that can record 90 minutes of audio and video. I have a friend who is cross ways with the local police here (long story and not the point). He has one for the next time they stop him. He is not a trouble maker and this has more to do with ex wives and the like but they just like to stop him and he has had enough. Over sized load excorts are buying the kind that attach to the mirro like this one and will record more than 24 hours and these devices are cheap My point? I dont know that he has this just to get it on with the BP I really think, the guy is mad because he has to pass through a check-point. Now, he's got an "I'll get you, you son of a bitch!" attitude. Had he just rolled down his window... all the way, he wouldn't have put the Border Patrol Agent 'on guard' and would have had to have answered a couple quick questions and been on his way. I get the impression, the guy is an arrogant, self-centered jerk who 'needs' his fanny spanked. I agree, he's out to get the Border Patrol for hindering his life-style. Chuck

The driver seems 'up' on his knowledge of the law but was a jerk about it. The Border Patrol Agent at the checkpoint, really didn't handle the situation good at all. In a way, the driver was not very cooperative and all events seemed to irritate both 'parties' and resulted in a stand-off situation. All I can think of is, the driver had passed through that checkpoint several times previously and gave the Agents a 'hard time' and so, the Agents, as well as the driver, got 'attitudes'. I've been through several checkpoints and found that if, you just cooperate, it goes real smoothe. In this instance, I think, the driver was just being a jerk and set-up the whole situation. Also, the driver was really looking for something to nail the Border Patrol with... why else would he put video cameras in his car? The whole deal was messed-up. Chuck

There's no time limit or anything else. It'll fade away. You just go-on with your life. Circumstances will change, new people will come into your life and you just tough it out. Put it behind you and see what's around the next bend. Chuck

some folks just have nothing better to do. Good Lord! Chuck

If it makes you feel any better, I have personally traveled on the Grand Funk Railroad. I'll bet you have! Chuck

I thought, this was going to be about the musical group. Sorry... Chuck

How true. Chuck

What if I just shut the music off and keep the headphones on...what then? I ask myself the same question, but still no cop ever tried to approach me while doing this. I`m badass so I listen to the music whenever I want. Fck the system Anyway, he would probably fine me. In this country they are always right. If it would get to court, I`d still lose. Cop`s word it "stronger" at court than anyone else`s. Or maybe I could try to bribe him. When people fail to use common sense the law steps in to try and fill the gap. Personally I prefer the lighter regulation approach and simply let the accidents happen. For some sick reason... I like that idea. Chuck

That's pretty messed-up. Chuck

....Or, we are all just evil and can't help but to destroy ourselves, even when we think we're doing something good. ...no nanothermite needed. I don't think we are evil. I think, it just might be that we as a nation are too arrogant and self-centered. Chuck Meh, don't listen to those 3rd world countries, they're evil too... *edited to add emotiocon for the more sensitive viewers* Nah, I don't pay any attention to 3rd. world countries... just a personal observation. Chuck

....Or, we are all just evil and can't help but to destroy ourselves, even when we think we're doing something good. ...no nanothermite needed. I don't think we are evil. I think, it just might be that we as a nation are too arrogant and self-centered. Chuck

That's what I was thinkin'. Maybe, instead of banning texting while crossing a street, we should require it. That would thin out the herd pretty quick. I was thinking along the same lines. Texting, cell-phone using pedestrians meeting-up with texting, cell-phone using drivers... should thin out the herd fairly quickly. The only draw-back would be some innocent non-texter, cell-phone user would get caught-up in the mess. edit to add: I'm beginning to think, all these gadgets and gizmos like cell-phones, i-pods and what have you, are an evil plot to reduce the world population. How's that for 'conspiracy theory'? Chuck

Thanks for posting that! I'm speechless. Chuck

I think, the bottom line is... flight attendants are just trying to make a living and do something they like. I don't believe they are involved in some sort of beauty contest. They are there to do a job and not be ogled. Chuck

Gimme' a good Western!

Years ago, my sister was a 'stewardess' for a now defunct, swallowed-up by the big airlines, milk-run airline. My mom, dad and I went to her class graduation from training school. For a 16-yr. old kid and all those good looking girls in their uniforms was quite an experience! To this day, there's just something about a girl in uniform. Chuck

Bleach? ...and ruin a perfectly good buckskin? No Sir! Chuck

Don't be so sure about that! Revelation 19:11: And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war. Revelation 19:14 And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses. Well... things are lookin' up! Chuck

Looks like, my horse doesn't stand a chance! Chuck

Eddie Rabbitt would kick his ass! didn't Eddie Rabbit die of lung cancer, years ago? Chuck

Who would suspect an 11-yr. old kid would be packin'? Then too, in this day and age, you just never know. Chuck