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Are these sailplane pilots, by chance? If so, the owner wanted to have them ready in plenty of time for some event or competition he plans to attend and he'll contact you. I've had sailplane pilots do that with me. I have large plastic storage boxes that hold two to three pilot rigs that I keep under my table, out of the way. I'm sure, you want your money for your work but from what you've told me, looks like patience is the operative word. Also, he isn't just going to leave 5 PEPS and walk-off. Chuck

Yeah... call him! Chuck

Whatever you do... Do not click on it! Chuck

Six years of injecting. His balls also look proportional to his penis....I think he was injecting them also I think it was 6 years of thinking about how to do a fake All I can say is... EYE BLEACH... Good Lord... Chuck

Hay, I seem to have that down pat, well that's what I'd herd. You bet! You can't hide it. No bum steer here! Chuck

You're ribbing us... yes? Chuck

I agree personally, but I have long and short term disability insurance so I will get by if I get hurt. But what do you do when you are disabled by trying to help and you have nothing to fall back on. It is an interesting idea. Most accidents are someones fault. Now you don't have to jump in the mix save some one, but I think most of us would be driven to regardless of the risk to ourselves. You aren't driven to jump in to a burning car, if the driver drove straight home safely, instead of texting and driving. I've been thinking about this and it really is a quandry. I've come up on some wrecks over the years and have been able to help till 'real' help got there. I never got hurt in the process and never really thought about it. Now, we have to think about it. Is that being self-centered or 'cold' or inhumane? Then too, as in this case there are law suits to consider. With all that being considered before any action is taken, the accident victim dies! Yeah, it's really a mess. Chuck

The way I feel about it is, I see someone in need of help, I'm going to stop and see what I can do. If, I get hurt in the process, it's probably my own fault. As long as the person I tried to help is O.K. that's the end of it. Each person handles different situations differently. Chuck

I admit to knowing little enough deep detail about modern rodeo that I will keep an open mind until I learn more. But FWIW, the "historical tradition" argument is not always the most persuasive. For example, similar arguments have been used in defense of fox hunting and bullfighting; but just because these have been "traditional" activities does not mean that they are not deemed cruel by the standards of modern industrial nations. (I realize that rodeo is not a blood sport like the others, but I hope you see my point re: needing to be cautious about using that argument.) Thank you for pointing that out. I do appreciate it. I guess, I'm not very good at arguing. I ain't no lawyer! I've loved rodeo since I was a little kid. I've met many rodeo contestants over the years and most of them have 'big names' and from what I know of them, not one would intentionally hurt any of the rough-stock, calves or steers. Freddy Whitfield (Tie-Down roping champion) really stands-out in that regard. Those animals are referred to by the cowboys as 'athletes' and respected. Too many animal rights zealots have spread too many lies about rodeo and it's not fair. They take the 'exception' and make it the rule. Funny thing about all this... everybody wants to be a cowboy! Chuck

It's still, a human life and her depression isn't her fault. Chuck

Those guys didn't have a clue, it was an attempted suicide when they approached the wreck. They just did the right thing in rendering aid. They recieved injuries in the process, which is a part of the risk being a 'good samaritin'. If, they couldn't accept the risk, they shouldn't have done it in the first place. Also, had they known in advance it was an attempted suicide, does this mean they should not intervene and just let her kill herself? The whole thing is screwed-up. Getting recognized at a medal ceremony wasn't enough? What did those guys expect? What were they 'really' looking for? Chuck yay, then the family of the "victim" could have sued them! fuck your "sue happy"-mentality! (not you as in YOU)

Those guys didn't have a clue, it was an attempted suicide when they approached the wreck. They just did the right thing in rendering aid. They recieved injuries in the process, which is a part of the risk being a 'good samaritin'. If, they couldn't accept the risk, they shouldn't have done it in the first place. Also, had they known in advance it was an attempted suicide, does this mean they should not intervene and just let her kill herself? The whole thing is screwed-up. Getting recognized at a medal ceremony wasn't enough? What did those guys expect? What were they 'really' looking for? Chuck

Sarcasm noted. I think that a lot of folks have blown rodeo way out of proportion. It's a part of our history of the American West only 'toned-down'. As far as I'm concerned, it's like anything else... if you don't like it don't do it, watch it or go near it. Try wrestling a thousand pound steer and see who's tougher... my bet is on the steer. Chuck

Sounds like the wild horse race - an exhibition event, and one that places the cowboys in a lot more danger than the horse - a kick can kill a man, where a horse being kicked grunts and walks off. The calves aren't 'tackled to the ground', but flanked after being roped. Or did you mean steer wrestling, which aren't calves and aren't 'tackled to the ground' either? I was really having a hard time trying to figure-out what he was describing... so, I WAG'd it. Chuck

You're describing 'bull-dogging/steer wrestling' and 'wild bronc riding'. Yes, I've seen those events many, many times. The way you described it sounded more like some kind of slaughter. The Prescott rodeo is a PRCA sanctioned rodeo. Pecos, Texas is still arguing with Prescott for the title of oldest rodeo! Chuck

The park service should just install some salt blocks for the animals well away from the hiking trails. That way the animals get the salt they need, and they don't have to come into contact with people to do it. Doh! The goats will quickly learn where the salt blocks are. A fifty pound salt or salt-mineral block is only about $5 - $6 bucks each. Chuck

Not sure what this has to do with anything. Lots of crazy stuff happens in nature. It's NATURE.. Rodeos hurt and maim animals purely for humans enjoyment. I recently saw a rodeo. Honestly, it made my stomach churn. Was there BLATANT animal abuse? I dunno. What I did see though, sucked. Little calves tackled to the ground. Horses beaten and thrown to the ground. All I'm saying is that what it LOOKED like was a bunch of cow poke, ummm, compensating for something... BTW, I'm no bleeding heart. I worked with dogs in the military to find explosives. Some particular dogs needed a zap or two of electricity to complete the training. But did I enjoy zapping them?? Hell no.. Also, we were training dogs to save lives, not just doing it for fun. Is there a difference?? I sure as hell think so, otherwise I wouldn't have done it... What you described... ain't rodeo! Where was this? I'll agree with you, what you described was cruelty. I don't believe, it could be compared to PRCA sactioned rodeo. It's the non sanctioned that make it tough on the professionally sanctioned. Those are the ones who need to be turned-in! We don't get 'ugly' when working cattle or horses. sometimes, like you said, you might have to 'sting' one to get it in the trailer but not very damned often. Chuck

Well, actually it's FOR much more noble purposes and allowing "people to display their ignorance and brilliance without inhibition" is the side effect. better said - +1 One thing about it, it makes a statement all-right... it states who the hell to stay away from.! Chuck

You should see what happens to those cows and calves and horses in 'nature' out in the pastures! Bulls fight, butt and gore each other. Coyotes and feral hogs violently kill and eat new-born calves. Packs of coyotes and big cats attack and viciously kill horses. That's nature! I've seen it! Yes, but humans CLAIM to be better than animals. "Jimmy did it first" was not an excuse my mother accepted for my bad behavior. I doubt your mother accepted such an excuse either. Don't get me wrong, I love animals just as much as the next guy but when a bunch of zealots spread lies to promote their cause, I don't like it. Some of these so-called animal rights folks need to be looked into! As for rodeo, I like it and I'll defend it. Professional rodeo is highly regulated and they are well aware that there are folks trying to do away with it on 'animal cruelty' charges. I've been to and worked too many rodeos and in all my years, have never seen an act of cruelty to any of the animals. That's not to say, in some un-sanctioned 'rodeos, acts of cruelty don't happen but to spread videoes with the claim 'this is what happens in all rodeos' is totally wrong. As for humans being better than the animals, they have that choice, some choose not to. Just to add... Look into some of the 'upper-crust' horse events, jumping, polo, dressage and so-on. Some of their events and training methods can be questioned. Chuck

I watched that video and that's not the Cheyenne Frontier Days I've been to! You should see what happens to those cows and calves and horses in 'nature' out in the pastures! Bulls fight, butt and gore each other. Coyotes and feral hogs violently kill and eat new-born calves. Packs of coyotes and big cats attack and viciously kill horses. That's nature! I've seen it! Sometimes, things happen and a bull, horse or calf might get injured but what animal rights folks need to understand is, there's a lot and I mean a lot of money in rodeo roughstock and they are treated well. You go up against a 2,000-lb. bull and see who comes out on the short end. Animal hoarders who think they are doing animals good, do more harm than rodeo ever will. I've seen more livestock kept in horrible conditions by people who can't afford those animals. Water tanks over-grown with algae, standing in small stalls, up to their hocks in mud and manure, old, nasty hay... if any, horse's hooves in bad need of trimming... basically, a hide on a skeleton. Very little is done about those folks. Noone involved in rodeo 'intentionally' does anything to purposely hurt those animals. Some animal rights folks select only the worse videoes of some backyard event and put it out to the world as a 'common occurance'. Sure, things happen, even in the best regulated things but to say 'that' those videoes are the norm is delusional! By the way... it's 'Y'all'! Chuck

I guess some folks just don't know a good thing when they have it. They need to keep a lower profile sometimes, but I guess if they could do that they wouldn't need to. Right you are! Chuck

I'll have to check it out. Clooney is just a good actor. Chuck

To correct "other news": The rope isn't tied around the testicles. Correct. It's called a *flank* - painful, nevertheless. I disagree. The flank cinch has no more pressure applied to it than the cinch on a saddle horse. For one thing, bucking bulls are worth a lot of money and the owners/stock contractors are not about to cause harm to their stock. Stock contractors and bull riders make their living from these animals and in actuality, bucking bulls are very well taken care of. The flank strap or cinch is not in contact with the testicles of the bull. A lot of lies have been spread about rodeo by animal rights groups and because of this, rodeo has been under 'the microscope'. The reason that a bull bucks is because he wants to get rid of that rider on his back. Bucking bulls are bred for just that... to buck. I hope, that might clear-up any mis-conceptions. Chuck What I said. Chuck - The rope isn't tied around the testicles And that about flank cinches (*roughly* translated): "One of the most important tools to bring the animals to solid defensive play, are the so-called "flank straps". These belts are - as the name suggests - at the edge of the animal, which is extremely sensitive and pressure-sensitive. Upon leaving the starting box, the belt is tightened up so that it exerts on the massive ribs of unprotected abdomen pressure. The pressure pain triggers a defensive behavior in animals, described by organizers as "controlled bumps". Without flank the animals would not "controlled", but buck in all possible directions, so the riders could barely stay on the animals. Although the operators often claim that the belt is loose around the body, this is only true as long as the animals are in the lock-up; at latest after leaving this by tightening the belt gives a big pressure on the belt. Even if the straps have padding to protect it - according to TVT report - they are not protecting against the pain, but just against the visible injuries such as abrasions. .... Furthermore, rodeo supporters often do argue that the rider only would remain 8 seconds on the animals. However, the flank strap for horses are removed by hand, because to stop the horses with the buck, if the rider was thrown off, but continue to decrease in the flank strap does delay the depositing of the flank strap often a considerable time. For bulls, the belt is anatomically related to the urethra, which is likely to intensify the pain. Unlike horses, the flank straps loose through the bumps of itself, so that the defensive reactions stop after the ejection of the rider, nevertheless, the flank strap, according to TVT report is to be considered "as a cause of suffering (stress, anxiety, fear) and also as a potential cause of pain." source; http://www.veganseite.de/tierbefreiung/rodeo I'm not the outspoken protector of animal rights but, since many many years a member of The International League for the Protection of Horses. So I have some doubts. Anyhow, that has nothing to do with you personally or your job or ..... No. It's just what I heard. Christel I clicked on the site you provided and well... I can't read German! I understand where you're coming from but I really think, animal rights groups have exaggerated the subject. I've just never read, seen or heard of any injuries to bucking bulls, short term or long term from the use of flank straps. I'm still, gonna' watch PBR! I've seen video of bull riders in Mexico, who wear sharpened, pointed spurs that hey jab into the ribs of the bull, so they don't get bucked-off. Flank cinches are nothing compared to that. Thank you for posting what you did. It's good to 'see' the other side of the story. Chuck

I think that you should watch it - I loved it. Cloney 'really' surprised me. Clooney is just a good, all 'round actor. His lip-sinking' of 'A Man of Constant Sorrow' was flawless. Chuck

To correct "other news": The rope isn't tied around the testicles. Correct. It's called a *flank* - painful, nevertheless. I disagree. The flank cinch has no more pressure applied to it than the cinch on a saddle horse. For one thing, bucking bulls are worth a lot of money and the owners/stock contractors are not about to cause harm to their stock. Stock contractors and bull riders make their living from these animals and in actuality, bucking bulls are very well taken care of. The flank strap or cinch is not in contact with the testicles of the bull. A lot of lies have been spread about rodeo by animal rights groups and because of this, rodeo has been under 'the microscope'. The reason that a bull bucks is because he wants to get rid of that rider on his back. Bucking bulls are bred for just that... to buck. I hope, that might clear-up any mis-conceptions. Chuck