Mad47

That's a very strong statement. Can you elaborate?

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Well I am going to have to argue with you again My post was not about being conservative, flowing with the majority and not taking a risk associated with trying something new. In fact, a lot of jumpers who expressed their concerns and anger in a previous thread are pretty aggressive skydivers, good freeflyers, swoopers ect. In contrast, most of those who believe that landing Mr. Bill is pretty damn cool are not falling into this category. All I was trying to say is that there is a possibility that someone from the second group will soon attempt to repeat similar landing. Almost everybody thinks that doing curved swoops under sub 100 cross-braced canopy is pretty cool, but at the some time most will agree this is not something that relative new jumper with a couple of hundred jumps under his belt should attempt. I love my sport, and I do not want to see people getting hurt simply because they are stupid or do not realize their limits and capabilities. If someone who logged 220 jumps in 10 years is going to attempt a move associated with FAR violation and extremely high probability of injury, he better does it away from my DZ.

Rob Laidlaw does some big way training in wind tunnel. It is not a joke

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Perhaps you misunderstood the general consensus. My impression after reading the threat was that the absolute majority of experienced jumpers (those who have thousands of jumps and who are very current) would never even consider attempting something like that. Unfortunately, there is a high probability that we will soon hear about new attempts to repeat this move by those who beleive they have "enough experience", use "proper planning" and exercise a "good judgment".

It makes sense because the center of gravity shifts significantly when you fly w/o rig.

Save those kidneys for yourself, get a job or move to DZ and start packing for other people.

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OMG. After reading all this I am begginning to think about moving to small Cessna DZ to avoid any possibility of meeting those people

It is amazing that for many of those who used to dream about standing on a podium gold turned to be just an intermediate goal.

Can also kill you if you ride them unstowed below the hard deck and then realize that that you have a mulfunction and you are too low to cut it away.

Someone has already warned about this crap before. Read the message below and be careful when sell your gear online. Anton _______________________________________ I am willing to buy your (1999 Javelin J3s) for $650 my mode of payment will lays oncertified cashier's check drawn in U.S funds , i will be informing my client in U.S who be forwarding a check of $4000 to you on my behave , i will be handling the shipping, and every relevant title, if you want me to forward the check to you, i want you to give me the name that will be on cheque and your physical address which you will like to recievethe cheque with your cell phone number and land line ,but if you will prefer to receive the check in your bank i will want you to provide all the necessary info concerning your bank (bank name and address , account #and rounting #, so that i can order my client to wire the payment to your bank asap.more over the balance on the excess funds will be base on shipping bcos they are having other consignment for me to do the pick up, the shipper's will be incharges of sign all relevant document,i will like to know if may mode of payment is accepted by you or not . i will really appreiciate your instant response. Thanks

How about making a solo dive to practice deployment and break-away procedures all the way down? You will have more time and altitude to work on equipment awareness without being distracted by other free-fall procedures. It is also a good idea to mentally prepare yourself for a cut-away every time you deploy your main and to locate cut-away and reserve handles right after your main is successfully deployed.

He forgot to mention that his pick up team averaged 8.9 (!) in advanced

Yup … Those who have less than 560 jumps do not have any right to be attracted to beautiful girls at DZ.

He dropped 7 targets and that's considered SUCCESSFUL? 25-17=8 Just a thought ...

If you plan to make some jumps at Skydive Dallas - ask for Rob Laidlaw (he is a president of Skydive University). If Rob is not available, find Mike Westbrook or Rick Duran - they are always at DZ. There are many others but they are usually busy working with students or training with their teams. Call DZ in advance and they will hook you up with somebody.

Clear tape is a good tool. Fold them under like rehmwa said and wrap around with tape.

One hour of tunnel time is available to share. The camp (four hours total) is reserved at Orlando Sky Venture, August 28, 6-7 am, 8-9 am, 10-11 am and 1:30 am-12:30 pm. PM me for details.

100 km/h is ~ 62 mhp. You say you wait for 3-4 seconds and then get out? Have you ever barrel rolled to avoid a freefall-canopy collision? I only had to do it once – unforgettable experience. I also saw a very experienced jumper passing me in freefall as I was sniveling on one my 200sh jumps. Also unforgettable lesson (poor tracking). As far as I know (I am not a freeflyer) one very common mistake novice freeflyers make is drifting in freefall. Now imagine that the group before you drifts up line of flight and you follow them with 3 second delay in strong uppers with only 62 mpg forward speed on jump run. It is much better to land off then to eat someone's PC. Someone who has more skydiving experience or knowledge of aerodynamics – please tell me I am wrong.

Disagree. It is very important for instructor to be able to establish a good emotional contact with a student and support and influence him/her in stresfull situation. Language barrier is not going to help here. I am talking form personal experience. Two years ago, after I screwed up AFF level 2, I was terrified of going up again and was seriously thinking about stopping. Lloyd Lee, one of my AFF instructors, recognized the problem, took me to his trailer and talked to me for ah our or so. This person was able to influence me, calm me down and prepare me emotionally for the next AFF level and 500+ jumps. I wanna be like him is I ever become instructor.

I just finished the first half of the book and I absolutely love it - it kept me from going to sleep until early morning The aerodynamics part is not overloaded with math that most of the readers will probably bypass, but at the same time is well explained in a text and, most importantly, well illustrated. The style combining some serious theory with authors personal comments and stories reminds the classical series of Richard Feynman’s lectures on physics. It was fortunate and at the same time embarrassing for me to take Scott Miller's canopy control class and read this book in a period of one week just to realize that after 500 jumps I have not learned a lot about the wing over my head. Thanks Brian for pointing in a right direction.

Kolonma and Stupino near Moscow are places to consider.

I rarely argue with experienced people like you are but this statement is simply not correct. The biggest Russian dropzones have raised several generations of world champions in variety of skydiving disciplines which rules out the concerns about the quality of teaching and training. However, one should consider the following factors: 1) Language – it is important to be able to understand your instructor during first jump curse 2) Diversity – there are small old stile DZ’s with old SL training methods and round canopies. 3) Cultural issues (related to 1) - I am not sure it is a great idea to deal with both cultural shock (adjusting to new country and new environment) and pressure of AFF training. If you think you will be able to deal with these issues, then you can seriously consider going because the difference in price is significant. P.S: I am Russian who went through the AFF in Texas and one of my first instructors was Canadian girl who speaks with strong French accent.