Snowflake

I know that but because of your body shape in lets say a sit your cp will be in front of your face and your cg is in your lower torso vs on your belly where cp and cg are in almost the same spot. This has some minor effect that I can't remember. I thought I downloaded the article it but I didn't. grrrrrr

I read an article on the effect of the center of pressure and CG on skydivers and how. Something about theres a big diffrence when it comes to freeflying vs bellyflying because when freeflying the CP is farther away and at more of an angle etc... etc...... If someone has a link or cares to enlighten me I would greatly appreciate it

I didn't change my name some undesirables at my DZ came up with a new nickname based on my arguments. I actually could take the name as quite a compliment and aspire to just a fraction of my namesakes greatness.....ROTFL. Now for arguments sake lets say I learn to sit with my arms behind me as you suggest. In a perfect sit (all 90's) your arms behind you will give you foreward motion. Unless you have your legs tucked under you or your leaning foreward. So if I sit with my arms behind me I'll either zooming or compensting with some other part of my body right? I use my arms over my head as a tool. When someone is a touch low I raise my arms in varying degrees, if they're low I stand if they're really low I stand and "throw my hands over my head". To use your belly jumping analogy. You wouldnt dive at someone a foot lower then you. You would arch more, same concept. No need to use a sledgehammer on a finishing nail. You have a lot more time in the sport but using your logic I have to stand by what I was taught, since it was by someone who has more of all the above than you do

no pictures but heres some video http://www.geneluster.com/Video_Clips/Skydiving/more%20noise.wmv . Now you'll note that my arms angle back a little but thats due more to me being bent at the neck(chin needs to be up and chest needs to be pushed out a little). You can even see me try to straighten up after the first 360. I cannot explain the CG thing other then to say you have to work your legs. Also it's not just CG you have to include center of pressure into the equation.....I'll look it up tonight. I also understand why you say that having my forearms in front will cause me to lean foreward but it doesn't and I cannot explain it other than to say thats what I was taught and I had to unlearn some bad habits after I started coach jumps. I've had this argument with a number of people all with lots more time and jumps in the sport just like you. I've picked up another nickname because of it, and I'll believe what I was taught about sitting before almost anything else. Maybe I'm thick, but I just might be right . On a side note one way I go faster in a sit is to put my arms straight over my head shouldn't I fall over due to CG imbalance?

I'm gonna have to disagree with that. Your arms go straight out from the shoulders bent 90 degrees at the elbow. I think teaching arms behind you invites bad body position especially bending at the waist, which will only have to be corrected later. I say do what you need to get there but be aware of body position that needs to be corrected. You should be working to get the 90's. 90 degrees at the knees, waist, shoulders and elbows head up on a straight line from your spine(not slightly bent like I still do). This will not happen over night and but do the jumps and it will come PS it took me around 10 jumps just to get stable and then I was backsliding and fell slow etc......it takes time

"This ain't rock and roll this is genocide....."

uhhhh....I do believe thats "just to be a light to guide us" "I will sit right down waiting for the gift of sound and vision"

Young people today have no proiorities Your supposed to spend it all on booze, crack and loose women. Then after a wild weekend you call in sick to work on Monday and get fired. Thats if you don't wake up in jail You better get your shit together or your gonna miss all the fun.

Not all rappers are gangstas/wannabe gangstas. Your just going on what the media feeds you. Kind of like believing the skydiving on real tv is the whole skydiving expirience. kinda shortsighted don't you think?

I was emailing a friend about skydiving I told him".....and then the canopy opens and you float to the ground like a multicolored snowflake" he started calling me snowflake. About that time I was signing up here and I liked the irony(theres a better word can't think of it now) of the name so I used it.

No this is the John who you thought knew John but he didn't he knew the other John. It's me the John from SSM whose last name you can't remember . Hows life in Sunny CA Sorry to hear about the problem, it would drive me crazy if it started going on that long after I woke up.

I know exactly what your talking about. It's a dream but you feel like your awake but can't move. I've sworn that I've had girlfriends tickling my feet, someone threatining to kill me, and other fun things and then wake up thinking how real it is. ok I was confused....I only get that right after I wake up and only for a few seconds, but I like I said I have dreams about it weird huh?

In a word NO!......wait lemme think about it......Senile old ex-movie star with the disease that makes you forget stuff(can't think of the name now) comes up with a great way to make the rich richer while increasing our national debt.....hmmmm maybe he did....NOT!......Bonzo came up with it during a voodoo ritual with George Bush Lemme say as a young adult during the Reagan era I didn't see any trickledown and neither did my peers but maybe we were isolated cases

Let me help you both parties are full of shit and full of scumbags. From what I've seen so far you look at the world through Republican tinted glasses, which makes you views very narrow. The lobbyists and campaign contributors make the decisions and leave people like you to muddy the water for the rest of us as they get away with anything they want to

Do you know what this word means I see you use it correctly in sentences but you don't use it when you write.....Oh yea your just trying out your new material

The laughter never stops with you huh? Oh yea the idea that Reagan came up with an economic theory is too funny an example of one of your not stupid politicians no doubt. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......your killin me over here

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!............whew...lemme catch my breath and clean the milk of my monitor OH MY GOD!!!!!! You are so funny. Quit your day job and become a comedian you got the knack Reaganomics trickle down theory snicker that Steel is one funny guy next he'll be talking about voodoo economics....that'll be a hoot

Sing Sing a Song Sing out lout Sing out long Do you love the sound of your voice?

So in other words he will send out information he knows is incorrect and slanderous because he doesn't like someone. I have to tell you right now that makes any information coming from him highly suspect

Huh? I don't care what people think. I want as much of the truth(objective facts) as I can get to me that equals validity in this context......keep back peddeling it's kinda funny

Yep and the part that kills me is people start talking about candidates integrity and I'm thinking to get to be a candidate you have to lie constantly does that equal integrity?

I notice he said that after you asked him for the source. Just because he's a wiz at accounting doesn't mean he should be believed about anything else and his email goes to prove it. He believed it because he wanted it to be true. I wouldn't consider him a very objective source of information. Is there a point in there? Of course I could have not read it. You on the other hand could have checked on the validity of the story before posting it here, but you didn't . You posted BS. I read it and commented on it thats what happens on a forum. Next time do a few seconds of research .....in other words think for your self. It will save you from having to take a defensive posture over someone elses false information

That figures Wow you get a bowl of soup with that logic.

This sounds like a prof whos word you can depend on. Let me help you out All presidential candidates are liars most of them are sleaze balls republican and democrat. The fact that a so called proffesor will send something like this out to make a political point just makes it worse. Instead of debating the real issues people get mired down in blowjobs, national guard duty, and inhaling and then wonder why the country is so fucked up. That was not an interesting read it was BS coming from the right wing propaganda machine

No I don't think there is an economic component, at least not in my expirience. I grew up in upper middle class white america and was hasseled quite a few times for no other reason then my skin color. Thats not to say I think all cops are like that but I treat any situation with the police like they would like nothing better then to shoot me