RhondaLea

Some people just have no appreciation for irony, sarcasm and wordplay. And trolling them never seems to lose it's appeal, even though it's kind of like shooting fish in a barrel. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Your questions are bullshit, and unworthy of a response. Totally disagreed. There's nothing bullshit about his questions; they cut to the heart of the matter: why does any man feel he has the right to dictate the way others live? Our way is only good to the extent we have the freedom to do as we choose, short of doing harm to others. That freedom has slowly eroded over time, and it is disappearing even more quickly today. The same answer applies to the Islamic nations. We're both deficient, in degree and in kind. Edited to add: actually, that last sentence isn't right. We're both deficient in varying degree and kind. I'm tired. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

There's no guarantee she would have won it, but she lost the chance because someone else made a mistake, not because she did anything wrong. Her parents didn't protest within the timeframe allowed by the rules, but apparently she did. How is that right? Mistakes happen, but the apparent lesson here is that responsibility to mitigate an error does not exist. Great lesson. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I suppose, but I really don't want to get rid of her. We have a role reversal here. I don't want my kid to yell at me. That's what happens when they get bigger--they pay back all the discipline of their childhood. When I'm really old, I'm going to hide in a cave somewhere so she can't tell me what to do. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

The original point was to discuss why some people are held in contempt and others are lauded for essentially the same kind of behavior. Everyone seems to want to focus on a specific incident as if it were the general principle. It's not. But it seems that everyone hasn't quite finished up giving him shit for the bike jump, so the thread has devolved. Apparently the original question cannot be discussed without lapsing into accusations, counter-accusations and all-out flames. And I'm just wondering if it's because most people realize that it's really not right to apply two different sets of rules solely on the basis of how much you like someone. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I retract the aspersion I cast on your character. This certainly does not represent lazy...although it may certainly represent drunk. Definitely up to the old standard. Worth two weeks at least. Well done. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

He's going to kill me, but I think it's 35. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

He was someone really special. One of the bright and funny lights of rec.skydiving...he always made me think, he always made me laugh. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

How about we all just settle down and realize that it's the man in red who makes the rules, not the man in green. You guys don't spend much time in the Bonfire or the other forums or you would realize how much more leeway the posters in this forum get from its one and only moderator. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

And many, many more. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

They're not curled. I've been too long without my dose of GTA. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

OMG! She's back! Someone hide me please. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

How much? Can I afford you? If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?search_bool=or&search_field=aiello&search_column=user_username&do=user_search Wives are apparently supposed to have no independent interest and you have a doppleganger of sorts in California...or something. Unless, of course, you have some super-secret identity that you use to bolster and defend your postion when you're not getting enough support elsewhere. Yeah, that's it. It's probably Jaap. He can't possibly be a real person. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

The moderator is also a participant. He has to work very hard to be impartial when it comes to moderating--and I think he does a good job--but he's still entitled to an opinion as a participant. The problem arises when the other participants are unable to distinguish between the moderator's "moderator role" and his "participant role." He has a lot of constraints, Jimmy. He can't always say what he'd like to say just because he's walking a very narrow line between the two roles. I don't think it's fair to be critical of him for having an opinion about the matter. rl Edited to add: Oh dear, I didn't finish reading to the bottom. I hate when people do that. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I'm thinkin' it's what's under the hat. You're the smartest woman I know. Sometimes I wish you were a boy. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

The de facto argument is that "if we like you, you can get away with breaking the rules; if you're a smartass who pisses us off, you're going to catch a lot of flak." I just don't see that "attitude" justfies that kind of ethical relativism. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Every time he posts. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Yeah, well, that may be true, but a little respect for one's peers doesn't hurt. And what you're offering is a much different argument--the one that justifies the behavior for all of them, not just some of them. Then you have a free-for-all. Is that what you want to do? Or is there a middle ground between "who gives a fuck?" and "don't step off the path?" rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

The only thing that counts is what we do. I'm not sure I understand the question, so you're going to have to rephrase. Exactly. Yes. That's the issue. Tom, I understand what you're saying, but I just...disagree. You receive forgiveness for an ethical transgression when you repent, show remorse and stop repeating the ethical transgression. What seems to happen, though, is that certain people are being forgiven for justifying their ethical transgression. Not only that, a lot of the justifications are being made for them by the same people who are subjecting the rest to outrage for doing all the same things. And because the "attitude" of that latter group "sucks," they take the full heat for what would get kudos if only the transgressor were someone more likable. I haven't been reading this forum much in the last few weeks, so I missed the precipitating incident, and I've gotten only one very vague account of what went on. All I'm working from is what I've seen these past few years, and none of it is very pretty. rl If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Is it against the rules to tell a moderator to fermez la bouche? If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

No, Wendy, no!! Not facts and logic! Not that! Pleasssssssssssssssseeeeee... If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

Indeed I am, honey chile, indeed I am. I come by it honestly, as you can see. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

You behave yourself, or instead of putting her on a plane back to Jersey, I'll bring her with me. Edited to add: ETA is probably the 18th or 19th or thereabouts, unless I stop in Dublin, in which case, I'll probably just go to New Jersey and come back to Virginia the next weekend. If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb

I'd pay to watch. http://www.training.sfahq.com/survival_training.htm http://www.gosere.com/ If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb