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Poynter's Vol I 9.5.3 lists all of the components for B-4 and B-12 assm. Harnesses are 50J6858 (older capewell) and 59J6706 (newer capewell) Ripcords are also listed. I'll let you look. Searching for the proper part numbers is a nightmare when some pilot brings you a 1950's rig. I've seen every mix you can imagine of Navy, Airforce and Army components. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

How do you blow so many lines on a subterminal deployment? I don't think even the crap I have would do that. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Yeah but we though you knew better by now. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Oh I know. I was taught how to do a back loop (not flip!) by a 3 time national/ 2 time world champion. From when RW comp was build a round, back loop and build the final formation. time started at break for back loop and ended at complete formation. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Because being cool for the camera is more important than having enough time to deal with a malfunction. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

At a 195 lbs be sure to fill you divot after you land, and come back from the hospital. Note the span and chord. This when square MEANT square! This isn't a 180 Maverick, or a Raven I, let alone a PD 190 or 170. It's a five cell brick. Okay, great at the time. But I jumped a Phantom 28' round not to many years ago and wouldn't have thought of jumping a Strato Star. Your mileage may vary. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

It's a Voodoo Curv, so use the Voodoo manual and add the curv rigging tips. There is no Curv full manual on their website, per the complete document listing. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

They got close. Gath surf hats with neoprene were popular for several years. May still be at some DZ's. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Because they actually offer some protection, motorcycle helmets are usually thicker than skydiving helmets. This means your field of view is usually more restricted and you may not be able to full flex you neck all the way back. Weight also would be an issue for neck injuries during opening shock. Even skydiving helmets have to me been too restrictive in field of view. I've been looking for one that I like for years. I do seem to like the Square one Phantom but too cheap to spend that much. I started with a motorcycle helmet when that's what all students wore. It kept me from getting my head all the way back easily and caused some stability issues. I moved to a Protec, than a frap hat, and now back to usually jumping a protec. Cheap and in most cases more protection than the carbon fiber hair retainers sold now. I expect that you WILL want an audible but they can go in most anything, including protecs. Goggles the same thing. Motorcycle gear is made for a two dimensional sport and forward movement in lanes. Skydiving is three dimensional and involves more complex movements with more field of view required. Other than an open face helmet most motor cycle gear won't allow you the vision necessary. Same with skiing helmets and other stuff. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

What country? I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Before this notice we had hope that if a manufacture put a non lead flexible seal in their manual (and Ted, before he died was ready to) that it would be legal under the manufacturer's instructions. This notice seems to supersede that possibility. I have been able to use my current press with a laminate label machine tape to 'emboss' my seal code into a flexible seal. This met the implied use of a seal press but allowed a printed non flexible seal. Oh well. This order is why I've abandoned efforts to implement a flexible seal in a U.S. manual. Also there is a plastic seal that we know now how to use (may be the same one above) that compresses like a lead seal. In my mind these would meet this order but obviously your FAA inspector may vary. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Several riggers in the U.S. have used and may still use paper seals. For a while PIA rigging committee was looking at paper/laminate seals. We now have an FAA letter with an opinion that a rig change would be needed to use a paper seal and not use your seal press. Although I found a couple that would work well, Australia uses them, I abandoned the effort for now. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I don't think I ever saw and Kap 3 parts that looked that good. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Just show a newbie the size of the 3 door and they'll piss their panties. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

No memorial details released yet. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Which version did he invent/sell? There were wire ones that looked like a 9, thicker ones where the pin intersected the eye as a radius instead of a tangent, flat ones kind of like the current ones except they were plated (the plating would flake off causing a sharp edge that would either cut the loop or get caught), or something else? I think the first ones I saw were the wire 9's. I spent a lot of time replacing the old versions with the stainless ones when they came out. I actually liked the wire 9 version best. You didn't have to worry about seating them too far, they would still rotate and extract. But they did corrode. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

This actually came out to pilot types a week and a half ago. One of my pilot customers forwarded it to me. Not sure why they got it before we did. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I had a newbie change his blue rig to black with a laundry marker. "it said it's safe for all fabrics" he said. Not only container but harness. But only the part that you could see. i.e. Front of webbing but not back or under mud flap. Immediately refused to pack it. If for no other reason than the crap was rubbing off and would rub off on the guy next to him in the airplane. Let alone dying is a major modification and no one has any idea how the ink was going to affect the rig. This rig is now junk. If you ask Sunpath they will say the same thing. An expensive lesson in do it yourself rigging. Sometimes I don't know what goes through newbie's minds. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I knew 12 wasn't right when I wrote it but too lazy to look it up. Type 7 common use for harnesses. Type 13 (7000lb) is what it was designed for and Sherman uses. The difference in thickness comes from the dying process. I'm going to get it wrong but here's the laymans version as discovered during meetings on slipping led by Ted Strong at PIA business meetings. Large lots (like black) are dying continuously under tension. Don't remember the name of the process. Smaller lots (like pink) are dyed in a batch process that allows the webbing to swell more. Both are in spec but newer continuous process produces thinner webbing. And yes the resin coating has varied just as much over the years and contributes probably as much. Booth tells the story about the first stainless hardware. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

What you perceive as hard fast openings may very well be normal opening for the Sabre. There's probably nothing to 'fix'. Newer canopies are designed with longer snivels for softer openings. What I call malfunctions that decide to clear. I grew up with and prefer a canopy that opens in 300' instead of 800 to a 1000 feet. So I have sabres and triathlons. That's not to say you can't have a truely hard opening on any canopy as Mike Truffer unfortunately had. For my sabres I usually roll four from each side and roll the tail. I'm more than happy. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Aside from how to do it without removing from harness, the reduction in friction could kill you. When hardware went from cadmium plated to stainless it had to be redesigned. The 'teeth' on the stainless leg strap friction adapter bit too hard, didn't allow the hardware to slip a little and resulted in damage and harder perceived openings. The cadmium plated dulled the teeth somewhat. The stainless had to be redesigned with less aggressive teeth. We already have problems with hardware slipping. Type 12 webbing has a thickness spec of 0.08 to 0.120 inches. It used to run on the thick side. Depending on the dying process it's now running on the thin side and aiding in hardware slipping. (Before John chimes in yes most of the hardware was designed for type 13 webbing and Parachute Labs uses type 13. But most of the world has been happy with type 12 in the hardware for decades.) You do NOT want to do anything that will change the friction of the hardware. How will it kill you? It could cause the legstraps to go to the stops on opening and break your neck with the chest strap. Just one scenario. Don't mess with a design you didn't create and the hardware design is part of it. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

At our DZ the owner had (or did it himself) thermoplastic (Opaque, abs, hmm something hard) molded into a holder for the pager. It went on the out side of the protec and the inside of the ear piece was cut out to allow the pager to be put in from inside the helmet. So unless the helmet came off the pager couldn't be lost. We had a few helmets come off in the air. And we had to train students not to take their helmet off before they got back to the clubhouse. The holders had a slot to allow the JM to turn them on in the airplane. Worked very well. No snag, no loss, hard protection for the pager. Can probably find or get a photo of one. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

Cliff shepherded the Parachute Industry Association from a group of skydiver/gear manufacturers trying to educate riggers and get information out before the internet into the go to organization for parachute expertise for the FAA, military, and everyone involved in the industry from raw nylon to integrated systems. During his tenure, and with the help of many, many volunteers, PIA took over specifications for parachute materials and hardware from the military to make Mil Spec for parachutes obsolete and PIA SPEC the new norm. PIA became the organization to write or help write both the new TSO standard for parachutes and new FAR's and their interpretation under AC-105. Cliff lived to see the National Skydiving Museum (Cliff was a director) go from a dream to owning land and having over $3 million in funds (much from PIA) to make the dream come true. Of course Cliff is much more than PIA President but that’s how I knew him best. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

When I first looked at this I had down plane in my head. A very bad idea for that. Still called death straps while used by some demo teams over the years. With deadman releases, not handles. Then I reread the title!!! Mr. Bill connected is called TANDEM. And needs tandem equipment. I watched two idiots do it with a tandem rig and carabiners back in the 90's. At least they had close to the right equipment. STILL a bad idea as they found out. They couldn't take enough load off the carabiners to open and unhook them until they were a mile down wind from the DZ. In what world is a chest strap, a single three ring, or a single riser designed to take opening shock? That 900lb dacron ought to be 10 lb break tape. Then it would STILL be a bad idea. I'll give you your request. IF you even think this is worth discussing the first skydiving 'invention' you actually build and jump will kill you. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE

I opened this thread and realized that I'm still speechless and I don't know what to say. Blue skies Cliff Thank you for all you have done for parachuting. See incident forum for other information. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE