Belgian_Draft

You're the one doing the bitchin'. You asked, I answered. The answer was not to your liking so you whine like a little baby until I offer to clear it up for you and you STILL don't like it. If you see some contradiction in my remarks then I guess you do. But the whole evolutuonary sequence I put forth is the same....logic slowly displaces emotion until no emotion is left. What you find so hard to understand about that very simple idea is beyond me. Now, one more time, go troll someone else. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

YES, announcing results is stupid Announcing results is necessary. Announcing results before all have had a chance to vote is stupid. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

If people don't understand they need to also vote for local issues, then do you really want them voting on them? That is making a judgement of a persons character and using it to screen voters. What would be next...disallow their vote if they are homeless? -I'm- not screening them . . . they're screening themselves. Very true. But to use that as an excuse to continue releasing election results before everyone has had a chance to vote would be wrong. One alternate solution would be to open all the polls at the same time and keep them open for 24 hours. That way nobody would know the results before their polls were closed. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I answered the question you asked. Not my problem if you lack the intelligence to understand a simple causal relationship. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Interesting satire. Probably pisses of the Christians to no end, but what the hell. It's good to get pissed off once in a while. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I know that's what you are saying now. I'm just reminding you that it's the opposite of what you said in your first post. In your first post you state very clearly that logic will take over and compassion disappear as a result of religion disappearing. Feel free to admit that you made a mistake in saying that. Sorry old man. I questioned, you whinged (and whinged and whinged) about being questioned. The record is perfectly clear there! Whine whine whine whine........... HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

we could solve this by shutting down satellite transmission to Alaska on Tuesday. For that to work you would also have to disable all communication to the outside world, something not likely to happen. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

If people don't understand they need to also vote for local issues, then do you really want them voting on them? That is making a judgement of a persons character and using it to screen voters. What would be next...disallow their vote if they are homeless? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Read the thread posted by Amazon concerning Alaska. When people don't bother voting because the winner of a national race has already been announced, I would say that can have a substantial influence on local elections. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I don't know why you are asking me. I've already stated that i don't feel religion is logical. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Open your eyes, religion is being forced upon you. That is another subject that i really don't care to get into. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Absolutely. Religion is about as logical as the toothe fairy, but I don't look down upon those who practice religion unless they try forcing it upon me. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

I know it would probably never work but it does have the potential to influence voting. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

You're also bypassing the point that in your original post you posited this new logical world as the result of religion disappearing, yet in the following posts you change to hypothesisng a new logical world as the inevitable result of human evolution (Doubt it, have you seen who's doing all the breeding these days?) and not caused by the downfall of religion at all. It's inconsistent, I know you aren't really as idiotic as you are posing. But, just in case, I'll explain it to you very simply. Religion disappears AS A RESULT of logical thinking taking over. Clear enough? One takes over by forcing the other out. My dog understands it perfectly well. I'm just pointing out why I disagree with you, and questioning the aspects of your hypothesis that I see as being faulty. You're the one who's throwing insults around because you don't like people being nasty to your ideas. You questioned, I replied. You didn't like the answer I gave, you whined. In the latest "Indiana Jones" movie Dr. Jones gives a bit of advice to a group of students. He tells them that to be good archeologists they must get out of the library. Same is true of any chosen caeer path and you, young man, have yet to "get out of the library". I am weary of this back and forth banter so you may carry on by yourself. Don't like it? I'll send you a quarter. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

"There is no semantic game that you can play that will get you away from the fact that you said that if religion is eliminated then compassion and charity would vanish and that would be a bad (dangerous) thing. Either that's what you meant, or you made a mistake in your post. " That is what I posted, except i never said it would be a bad thing. That is an assumption you made, and we both know how dangerous (there's that word again!) assumptions can be. I have no idea of whether it will be good or bad, only that it will be different. I have no problem at all with you disagreeing with me. You, on the other hand, have a problem with those who don't agree with you. Otherwise you wouldn't be so insistant they prove their opinion stand up to all scrutiny. I don't profess to tell you what you can and can't say. Say whatever you want. Or are you going to continue crying because I don't agree with you? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

A couple threads here have touched on it, so i figured I'd start a thread devoted to the subject of when poll results should be released. My feeling is that, since we have early balloting over much of the country, that a time period of one week should be established during which any qualified voter can cast their ballot. All polls will close at midnight local time on the first Tuesday of November (gotta keep some tradition!), with results being released 12 hours after the last polls close. In addition, no exit polling should be allowed within a 1000' radius of any polling place. Just some thoughts. Any other ideas? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

#1: Saying there is a danger in a possible scenario does not mean the outcome is dangerous. Two totally independent paths there, son. Example: "I am going to drive to my girlfriends house today. I plan to take route 3, but there is a danger that it is closed to construction and I will have to take route 4 which is the same distance." It's all in the semantics. #2. " I don't know why you have such a major problem with me disagreeing with it, and pointing out that you haven't backed it up." Because it is an OPINION. Get over the idea that everything in life has to be backed up with evidence or in some way justified. #3: "In case you hadn't noticed this is a forum for discussion. I am at a loss as to why you think it is a forum for you to speak and others to listen." Exactly! It is a forum for DISCUSSION, not a forum where one must provide evidence for everything they say. If you want to take part in that kind if forum there are plenty of them on the net. And it IS a place for me to speak and others to listen. It is also a place for others to speak and ME to listen. What it IS NOT is a place to have to defense everything one posts. You don't like what someone says? Fine! Tell them so! But don't expect everyone to debate you on every topic that you disagree with. It is, after all, a SKYDIVING forum, not a screening for the ASME "Mechanical Engineering" jounal. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Ooh, you're a tecthy little thing when you don't get your way. I'm just pointing out that your 'hypothesis' does not support your original assertion that the abolition of religion would be dangerous. If you don't like people pointing out when you're being inconsistent, don't be inconsistent. Where did I ever make the claim that it would be dangerous? All I ever suggested was that emotion and compassion would eventually be displaced from the decision making process. You are free to disagree with that. You posted a thread asking why religius types dislike the scientific community. Well, your attitude in this thread is a perfect example. You can't just listen and take it for what it is worth, you feel some need to prove that person wrong in some way. Just as the religions have their extreme fringe groups that cannot accept people having different views from their own, so does science and technology. And you seem to be trying your best to fit in that group. But, whatever you say, schoolboy. You have read all about about in your books so obviously you know more about my opinions than I do. I sincerely apologize for ever suggesting that you were anything less than a concise collection of all the worlds knowledge, both present and future. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, I'm suggesting that instincts and emotions still play a primary role in our thought process. I never said they didn't. In fact, I have said here more than once thet they still do play a major role in our thought process. What I said was that, in my opinion, someday they won't. Someday being a long, long time from now. You have yet to supply any evidence, examples, etc... supporting your assumption (that logic has replaced instincts and emotions). I am most sorry if you can not understand my opinion on the subject. I have given what i consider a good example of what will happen, but evidently it was not made clear enough for you to comprehend. If that is not good enough then try this... IT IS A FUCKING OPINION! If you don't like it, FUCKING TOUGH! HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Hey...Jakee! It's only a feakin' loose prediction, not a hypothesis that will be submitted to any scientific journal for peer review! Get the fuck over it. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

No, I'm suggesting that instincts and emotions still play a primary role in our thought process. I never said they didn't. In fact, I have said here more than once thet they still do play a major role in our thought process. What I said was that, in my opinion, someday they won't. Someday being a long, long time from now. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Do you know what a fact is? Regardless, what examples do you have to support your opinion that we are more logical today in our thought process? Yes, I know what a fact is. Are you suggesting that logic plays no more a role in our thought process than it did in primates a million years ago? HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

The problem is history doesn't support your assumption. Humans are still as instinctual and emotional today as they were thousands of years ago ... The fact that we are much more logical today in our thought process supports my assumptions. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Very good case for the use of the "old fashioned" mechanical voting machines. Push in the button next to your choice, when all choices are made pull the lever. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.

Ok, I will offer an answer to this one since it may help you understand the last one and I can answer it very quickly. Stop thinking of future society as resembling anything we have now. I'm not talking in the next 20 year, 100 years, 200 years...I'm talking thousands or hundreds of thousands of years into the future. As mankind evolves from an instinctual and emotional being into a more logical one, the idea of politics and politicians will become extinct. ALL members of society will be what we now consider scientists therefore all leaders so shall be. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit.