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I've got a friend who earned an assault charge a couple of years ago for beating up a couple young men (late teens to early 20's) who'd been foolish enough to berate him and taunt his wife while they were waiting at a stoplight. He was in his mid 60's at the time...and an ex-marine and golden gloves boxer. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I don't remember the brand, but yes, I ate my share of soap as a kid. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Yeah, the son part really pisses me off. I don't know about the wife part (and don't really care), but kids are kids. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I'd probably do the same thing with several that I currently do with the few I've already got...put them in a folder where I won't accidentally open them while looking for something else and leave them there for future payback purposes. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I'll disagree with you there, Dave. One has to look at people in general, not just those examples that stick one's craw. (I know you are thinking of the leadership, televangelists, all the hypocrits, but not your coworkers, your neighbors, the average Joe....) In particular, look at the effect on kids, especially in lower education or poor areas. There's actually a lot to be said for the "Santa Claus" effect and upbringing. Edit: So, you are in a bad neighborhood. You turn a corner and see on left, a couple teenagers, they have their WWJD (IMO) pins on, their parents walk the talk, they go to religious school, they have discussions all the time about right and wrong, and the consequences of it all as part of their upbringing. On the right, a couple teenagers, they spend their weekends getting into trouble, mom and dad say one thing and do another, they play video games and hear discussions all the time about moral subjectiveness. Which side of the road to you walk down? Which kids are "likely" to be decent kids? You kind of spoiled the well with the question by stating that two of the kids spend weekends getting into trouble, thus they are already established as less likely to be decent kids. My point was that the WWJD kids have the advantage of parents who are trying to raise their children properly. Religion doesn't make them more or less likely to be good parents. I spent most of my childhood in church and there were some incredibly immoral people there, including some who affected me very personally. When I left that part of my life behind and moved in with an atheist aunt and uncle, I found myself surrounded by people with a profound sense of right and wrong and the courage to let it direct their actions. Do I think atheism is what made them moral? Of course not. Correlation does not equal causation, and the sample size is negligible. There are trashy parents of both the atheist and religious ilk, and good parents who disagree on the existence of a god. Since atheists are a minority in our society, it stands to reason that they would also be a minority of good parents. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Less cynical theory - religion was created by man to establish an effective tool for teaching morality - it's still one of the best tools around for that purpose I should have pluralized my statement, as I see such attitudes go both ways. Still, I disagree with your statement, in both the genesis of religion and its effectiveness at teaching morality. While it may give greater knowledge of the subject (technically, I suppose that's teaching), it seems to have little, if any, effect on implementation. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

An alternate universe, but I'd settle for another planet. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

The only connection between religion and morality is contrived to allow some people to feel superior to others. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Got me beat. I've got 122k on my 2001 Tundra...the check engine light came on once due to a vacuum line coming off the air filter, everything else has run fine. I'm currently considering giving it to my daughter and buying myself a new Tundra with the big engine. 6,000ish miles later, my truck did need new rotors and the drums resurfaced yesterday. I probably could have made them last till trade-in this fall, but it just left on a 700-mile road trip that will include pulling a trailer over a couple mountain passes, with a driver unaccustomed to trucks and towing. I figure rotors that aren't warped due to heat/wear should increase her comfort level. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Is my guy card at risk for admitting sex is more fun when both parties are actively engaged? Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Scenario 3b: Tired partner: "Honey, I'm exhausted and I have to get up early. Can I take advantage of you tomorrow at some point before bed time?" Horny partner: [in annoyed voice] "Oh sure, no problem. Just go ahead and go to sleep! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!" (horny partner tosses and turns and acts as pissy as possible for seemingly hours...) What now, Dave? You ain't gonna be sleeping anytime soon? Occasionally? Deal with it. Routine occurrence? Get a new partner whose "schedule" better matches mine and who thinks both parties needs deserve consideration. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Oh pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!! When you're really tired and worn out you want to get to sleep as soon as possible. Scenario 1 (expressing thyself): ------------------------------------ [horny partner] "Hey, let's get busy doin' the nasty!!!!" [tired partner] "Sorry, Honey, but I'm sooooooooooo tired..." [horny partner] "But I'm sooooooooooooooo horny...." [tired partner] "But I'm sooooooooooo tired..." [horny partner] "But I'm sooooooooooooooo horny...." [tired partner] "Tired" [horny partner] "Horny" [tired partner] "Tired" [horny partner] "Horny" [tired partner] "You're not going to give up, are you?" [horny partner] "No" [horny partner] "Well, ok...." Scenario 2 (facing reality): ------------------------------------ [horny partner] "Hey, let's get busy doin' the nasty!!!!" [tired partner] "Honey, I'm sooooooooo tired, but you make me so fucking horny that I can never say no to you, but can we keep it kinda short, please?" [horny partner] "Hell yeah, you can even sleep while we're doing it if you want!" In scenario two, you get to sleep faster and with less aggravation! Case closed. Walt Scenario three: Tired partner: "Honey, I'm exhausted and I have to get up early. Can I take advantage of you tomorrow at some point before bed time?" Horny partner: "OK, it wouldn't be as much fun without both of us into it anyhow" Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I've jumped at Star a bunch of times. I don't know how much has changed since Brian took the reins from Shumard, but he's a great guy who I'm sure has kept it fun. Also, Southwest serves Spokane, WA (Geiger Field), which is a short drive from West Plains Skydiving where there's a Caravan flying every weekend. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I quit doing that at around 30 tandem jumps when we went head-low during the trapdoor, the bag bounced off the back of my legs, and we got slammed. If I have a special needs student of some sort (be it a physical disability or just a bad case of the stupids), I'll sometimes pull their forehead back with one hand during opening, but for the most part I prefer to pull the drogue release and just keep flying. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Generally I'd say it depends on the dogs and the kids, but experience suggests that unattended, misbehaved kids are MUCH more irritating than similarly neglected dogs. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Kids are better...same pay, just as much diligence, and you don't have to worry about them casing the place. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I don't take my girls to the DZ that often, but the above is about how I approach it when I do. They're in the trailer when I'm jumping, with occasional bathroom breaks that I immediately clean up after. They understand the phrase "you cross this line, you die" which is what I use to keep them outside the hangar (I'll admit the bulldog presses that issue out of stubbornness, even if it's only one paw in the hangar). When I let them off leash, they stay within 10 or so feet of me. They never nipped at anyone, anywhere, including the dz. If they act up, or I need to do something else, they get put back in the trailer. With as much time as I spend at the DZ, I want it to feel like home. Sometimes my dogs help in that regard. However I try to be as courteous as I can at the same time. Owners that let their dogs run wild are annoying. Owners that don't pick up their dog's shit just flat out piss me off. Edit to add: I'll be getting a new dog this fall that will travel to the DZ with me much more often (i.e. every weekend). However there are good reasons I'm waiting till the fall...so I have all winter to train her and so she can acclimate to proper dropzone behavior in the spring when it's not that busy instead of just plunging her into frantic activity that requires a lot of my attention itself. Dogs are at least as prone to sensory overload as skydiving students, and the dropzone is just the kind of atmosphere to cause it if not taken into account beforehand with proper training and acclimation. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Is that why I saw you mowing the lawn at the DZ last weekend? You missed it? I've only mowed 4ish times this season, and Erin's gotten it once. I decided to give the job to the first kid to come to my door this year, but then none came by. Oh well, we'll limp through this season with an occasionally unkempt lawn and try to hire someone next year. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Where? Where? My lawn gets pretty unkempt at times, but I assure you it's not because I'm lazily sitting on my ass. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Ouch, my solar plexus hurts. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I've got mine set on 100 threads/posts per page, so I get the same thing when people say that. The difference is it never bothers me. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Is there any word on when the iPhone will be usable with another carrier? I think it looks intriguing, but I will absolutely not give AT&T any of my business...I'd rather pay more elsewhere. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

You must be very wise. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

Expect a PM from Clint asking for her number in 3...2...1... Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)

I've faked it before. I don't know if she knew, nor did I care. Walt I've faked it before. I don't think they knew. I haven't done it in several years though, as I expect absolute honesty from any woman I'm with and it would be wrong of me to not give the same in return. Blues, Dave "I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew)