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I do agree with this.. However I would say "Republicans" in place of conservatives. I despise the republican party almost as much as the Dems. Both are corrupt power hungry groups that have lost sight of their core principals. We are getting way sidetracked here, and this would be a good discussion for another thread.

Where we disagree is that you are calling this a search. I completely disagree with that. they are counting the items leaving the store and comparing that to the receipt. Make sure the number match. To me a search would involve them actually searching me. I would have a MAJOR problem with that. But I realize that what they are doing is: 1) Saving me money. 2) saving them money 3) protecting me (Like I said.. Many time I have got home from the grocery store and realized I left something at the cashier. Paid for it but over looked putting it in the bag. A bag of chips or jar of pickles doesnt really bother me.. But if it was the new MP3 opl;ayer I just bought.. I would be rather thankful that that was noticed before I left the store) 4) Protects them (When the cashier forgot to scan something and/or accidently put some orther guys MP3 player in my bag. If the items on the receipt do not match what I am taking out of the store, I am glad someone checked. yes. Someone searching me?? That is a different story.

well then let em tell you what is comming... Someone by the door will check every single Item leaving the store against a receipt. That is the way MOST large stores around here work now. Every Best Buy, Comp USA, Sams Club and Costco that I know of is doing this 100% of the time. They have found that it really cuts down on shrinkage. (Not theft) but shrinkage.. Human mistakes made at cash registers.

MMmmmmm... Reverend Jobs has some more Kool-aide for the sheep.

And all this time I thought we were talking about the receipt checkers at Circuit City, Best Buy, Sams Club, Costco and other major stores. I have had this happen to many, Many times at mall stores (I have a 15 year old daughter, I get to spend alot time in mall stores.). I have never been accused of stealing. Just return and let the cashier remove the tag. Or usually it is just I am waived on. again.. I have never been searched at any store. I do have the items I am leaving with counted and compared with the receipt at most Big Box and electronics stores though. This article that we are discussing is about Circuit City BTW. Not an alarm going off.. but a receipt checker that checks every single item leaving the store against a receipt and someone that wanted to make a point.

I think what you are missing here is that the primary purpose is NOT to stop crooks. It is to catch human error. Items are scanned at the register. Sometimes they double scan the same item, other times they Miss scanning an item. The receipt check is a simple verification process. Count items ion receipt, Count items leavening the store. See if they match. That is what they are doing. You are NOT being searched. In no way, shape, form or fashion!! They are counting the items to make sure you got everything you paid for and that they rang up everything you have. If they find an extra item, You will most likely not even be accused of theft. they will just ask that you return and pay for the item. If you are missing an item, They can catcvh it before you leave and you can go back to the register and get your item that is probably still right by the end of the register. This is about reducing shrinkage. Not all shrinkage is due to theft. Much of it is due to human error at check out. Checking your receipt is NOT calling you a thief, It is NOT searching you.

That is the policy everywhere I have seen.. (Although I still disagree that it is a search.) EVERYONE must show a receipt to leave with items. They are comparing the items against the receipt (Just like the online fulfillment centers do) to avoid and catch human mistakes before you leave the store. For them to compete with online shops where they also do this, They MUST be able to keep shrinkage under control. Counting the items and comparing that to the receipt is not even remotely close to a Search. It is a simple check for booth your benefit (Did something get left out of the bag?) and their benefit (Did something extra get put in the bag?) This is factored into the price you paid. If you do not agree to this then you should be paying extra (Or shopping elsewhere). Then why not Wait to consider the items bought at the store "Yours" until you leave the store?? What makes paying for something online (its is YOURS RIGHT THEN by your definition.) different from buying in a store. The item is yours when you leave the store.. Till them you can "refuse delivery and reverse charges" and/or return items just like online.

The liberal comparison comes from people wanting something for nothing. There is no real search being conducted. They are comparing the receipt to the items leaving the store to make sure no mistakes were made. Now if they were frisking people or having people empty their pockets of such, I would be the first to be outraged. That is not the case. In order for stores to keep prices down, they must control shrinkage. One way to do this is with the Receipt checks. People that want to pay the lower price (That has receipt check factored into that price) but not allow the receipt check.. Well that is the typical liberal mentality of something for nothing. Also this is not the State or Government doing this. This is something we have a complete choice about. We can accept the terms of sale or we can shop elsewhere or we could even [GASP!!!} do without the new big screen TV all together.. But the liberals would tell you that we all have a RIGHT to Big Screen TV and free Oprah all day wheather we pay or not.

So rules should not apply to you?? Why? You agree to shop there knowing this is their policy. This policy enables them to sell merchandise at a certain price. You get the item at that price but refuse to accept responsibility for your part of the transaction.. Nothing illegal about trying to protect both you and them. Make sure you get what you paid for (everything you paid for and nothing more). That is it. No one is searching anything. They count the items on the receipt and count the items in leaving the store. If you dont want to allow this, Dont shop there. Buy online (where they will also do this but you are not standing there when they do. Someone pulls the order (After you have paid BTW) and someone else verifies the order matches the Items being shipped. Are they also "Violating your rights?? You already paid.. So by your definition.. They are searching your property)

It is their Store. Their rules. You do not have to shop there. If you do not like their rules, Don’t go in. Some stores have a 7 day return policy, Other have a 30 day.. Some store check receipts, some don’t.. All these are factors you can CHOOSE to use when deciding on where to buy stuff. This typical Liberal Bullshit mentality of "I am a Victim" and "What about my rights" When you KNOW full well what the deal is when you go in make a purchase is just a bunch of pansy ass cry babies that refuse to live up to their part of a deal. The deal being, They will sell you This item for this price.. But to maintain that price they must keep shrinkage under control by doing receipt checks. You get the item at the price and then want to Bitch and whine when it comes to holding up your part of the deal. I know the concept of personal responsibility is foreign to many of you.. But some of us like being able to make choices and understand that some choices have consequences. Want to shop at the Big Box store, gotta let them check your receipt against the Bag (This is NOT a search.. it is a simple verification) We can shop at stores that have this policy, or we can shop at stores that do not. As I said before, This could also benefit the consumer as well as the store if done properly. Have you ever bought groceries (or anything else) and then realized when you got home that something you paid for was not in the bag?? I know I have several times. This extra check also helps make sure you HAVE all the items you paid for. Humans make mistakes. This saves everyone money. If the cashier forgot to ring something up (What they are really looking for) or if someone switched Barcode labels and The items do not match the receipts.. These are all valid reason to double check things. If you don’t like this, then don’t shop there but if you Choose to shop there knowing full well what the policy is and then want to make an ass out of yourself, I HOPE the store can take some type of legal action against you for wasting everyone’s time.

How about you stay the fuck out of thier store if you dont like thier policies?? How hard is that??

Id Hit it. (If there were not too many red streaks. ) And if memeory serves.. Those are some nice curves!!

I can think of several reasons.. 1) to ensure for both the Store and the Customer that the customer has all the items they paid for and No more items than they paid for. 2) That the Items that the customer paid for are in fact the actual items they have (Easy to swap Bar Code labels. All these things are for the benefit of BOTH the customer and the Store. People that do not like this should NOT shop at store that do this. If they do CHOOSE to shop there, then they are agreeing to these terms.

Not even close.. See If A Cop stops me I have no Choice. I must stop. That is the law. There si NO LAW that I must buy a TV from Best buy. If I do CHOOSE to buy a TV from best Buy, I agree to many of their policies.. Their return Policy, Their Rebate Policies (If they are offering them, And the I agree to let them check the Receipt against the Items in my Bag when I leave the store. It is all part of the sale. I can Accept this deal, Or Not. You should NOT be able to agree to this (Which you do by making the purchase fully knowing that this is thier policy..) and then renege on your part of the deal (allowing them to check the receipt). If you do, They should be able to Sue YOU for all the time, hassle and trouble you cause them by being a belligerent ass. They are NOT searching you. They are checking the receipt against the merchandise. I have never seen rubber Gloves and/or Lube used in this simple process. Absolutely. But I have no problems with Store placing camera all over their stores. They are NOT violating my Privacy as I am in THEIR Store. Yes, I would mind as you are implying that the Government is doing this and I have no Choice. I have a choice as to where I buy electronics. I can choose to buy from someplace that checks receipts or some place that doesn’t. It is really very simple. I am not a victim. I know that is hard for some to comprehend but I can make my own choices and don’t need others making those for me. No, But when I call most corporations, The first thing I hear is "this call may be recorded". I can choose to hang up or proceed knowing the call is in fact "Bugged". I have had the same thing happen. I filed complaints with the police depts. Legally, they can do this if they have "probable cause". None of this has anything to do with a Private Company saying we sell Items at this price. If you buy them, Here are the terms. You can choose to accept them or not. If you do not, Shop elsewhere. Buying the item and then complaining about the deal you knew full well you were making to begin with is well.. Typical liberal Bullshit.

Have to see me in person to collect your prize.

And we all pay a price for convenience too. If you would like to pay more for an Item to cover the cost of shrinkage, You are free to do that by shopping at a place that does not have this extra level of security. If you want to wait a little longer and save money, Buy online. But if you must have it right now.. Then you are welcome to buy it from a store that has it in stock and agree to their terms. If you do not agree to their terms, Shop elsewhere. A Free country is great like that.

As of this time last years, I can assure you that Lucy Lawless would still look just fine in her costume.

Well I would not shop there. Now if there were selling 52 LCD TV`s for $.99, But that was part of the deal..... Well I still wouldnt shop there but There are plenty that would. They have that right as far as I am concerned. There is a HUGE difference between checking your bag against a receipt vs being searched.

They have every right to protect their property. This absolutely no surprise. You Know that you will be asked to show a receipt before leaving the store before you make the purchase. You know what their terms are.. To get that product at that price, You have to show a receipt at the door. If you dont like that policy, you are welcome to shop elsewhere. That is the beauty of a free capitalist society. I like the way Brands Mart handles it. You don’t get your stuff till you are out of the store. You pay and get a receipt to take to the dock where they bring you your stuff and help you load it.

The next guys accepts their terms. If you do not, Stay the fuck out. Your choice. No one is making you shop there. You know the policies. Your choice. Dont like their policies, Don’t shop there. This isnt some government conspiracy here trying to take away your rights. It is a corporate (ohhh.. Evil, I know) entity exercising their rights to protect their property.

I refuse to believe that statement without photographic evidence. In other words.. TPIWWOP!! (This post is worthless with out Pics!!)

[Swoooon} I love it when you talk Geek!!{/Swooooon}

Yep. Teal'c (Christopher Judge) from SG1 and Chief Tyrol (Aaron Douglas) from Battlestar Galactica.

Think SG1. If that doesnt give it away, You loose all Geek Points.

So saturday night about 3:30am we are staggering through the Marriott going from one party to another when we run into these guys almost drunk as we are wrestling in the middle of the lobby (I guess they decided to settle one of those "who would win" senerios once and for all.) I of course did the right thing and broke it up by tossing a chick in the middle of the fray and suggesting thet we all go get more booze. Bonus Geek Points for the first to identify them.