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Robert! You are really NOT up on Cooper. That is an old movie about Cooper - it is crazy. It is wild. I have only see some promotion clips but, that was enough for me. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

If they intend to represent this as a comedy - they better know this story is about REAL people with a large portion of their lives involved. They will have a BIG problem on their hands. The individuals Grey interviewed are REAL LIVING individuals and if they intend to do this as a Comedy - they better think TWICE. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Matt - you are right! BK has NOT figured you out at all. The man is oblivious to what is going on. I banter with Blevins and others, and present my case versus theirs and show their weaknesses as I show my own, but I do NOT make myself part of their "story". What I know is what I know and that is how I tell it. I had to feel my way around and explore things and I had to play "games" with individuals to find out who they where and what they were all about. Sometimes I change my opinion about something after I have toyed with it (doing what research I am capable of doing. I call that toying). I have taken the time to listen to almost everything and everyone who contacted me over the yrs. My only mistake was being to sympathetic to some of them. I give poor Blevins a hard time and visa versa (also Bruce) and others - we agree to disagree, but WE do not make each other part of the other's story other than in jest. It is bottom feeders like BK that make themselves part of Someone Else's story or life because they have no life of their own nor do they actually have anything about their subject...in BK's case - didn't even know the subject (Duane L. Weber) he claims was Cooper. I think there should be a stipulation regarding BK's postings regarding his interjecting HIMSELF into the story of Duane Weber - that he have to produce EVIDENCE he actually knew the person (Duane Weber). If I interjected myself into the Kenny Christian story or the DL Cooper story - I would be shut down in a NY minute. I do not care if BK wants to discuss Cooper...but he has to stop quoting me (erroneously) which makes it come down in future posting that I actually said what he claimed. If he wants to continue to discuss Cooper and stay - then he has to STOP injecting himself in to the story about Duane Weber until he can prove he knew Duane Weber. To continue doing so I believe is slander and harrassment. The choice is not mine, but it would put an end to his constant attacks on me and senseless posts that hamper anyone learning anything new and having objective communications about a subject. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

[RED] kNOSS BELOW YOU QOUTE ME BUT IT IS NOT MY QUOTE and AS USUAL YOU TWIST AND TURN AND MAKE IT APPEAR THIS PERSON SAID THIS OR THAT. NEVER STATE "JO WROTE" UNLESS YOU DO A DIRECT QUOTE FROM MY POST AND NOT ONE THAT INCLUDES OTHER POSTS:[/RED] Jo wrote "Frankly you guys have NO IDEA what is coming down - This is going to fall so hard it will shake the very foundation of the Cooper case" I did state that but not the other things you make it APPEAR I stated: Below is a statement made by 377 and NOT by me. "Now where have I heard that before? Still waiting. BTW, the Cooper case has no foundation to shake. It's an amorphous free floating entropic organism that morphs constantly," --------------------------------- Attention mr BK: The next issue is your saying I bad mouthed Max's book: BULL, anyone who knows me - knows better than that! Using your word HOGWASH! I explained to you that MAX and I had conversations and exchanged communications. I knew most of Max's book was fiction because he only had 6 one hr phone conversations with Clara. He went thru the book with me in detail - and we discussed the things that stood out. We did this with my markers and my notes. I NEVER told you any differently. What I wrote in the previous posts on this occasion and on other occasions over the yrs are all the same as I told you. YOU were and ARE the one who - MAKES up THINGS as you do every time you post. THIS is just another example of how your mind is TWISTED! You want to DRIVE everyone insane and you want SO VERY BADLY to be part of the COOPER story that YOU will STOP AT NOTHING. YOU know you are NOT and were NEVER connected to Cooper or to Weber....if you could prove you actually knew him - MAYBE someone would listen to you. If you had ONE ounce of proof - you would have been all over the media like a vulture therefore you are nothing. but a mole who buries himself in hole feeding off of others....you have never produced ONE document - NOT one. I have dug up documents and photos and Blevins did the same thing with his subject....YOU on OTHER HAND - continue to FEED like a VULTURE off of others when it comes to Cooper. The only things you have to SAY are to SLAM others and distort their story if you can't make yourself part of their story. The only part of my story you have is that you are a VULTURE and the creep who caused the FBI to drop any investigation into Weber with THE NONSENSE you created. YOU and YOU alone are the REASON no one wants to present a subject and the FBI has a HAND OFF attitude regarding any subject you mention. YOU angered me on another thread causing that thread to be closed as you did one before that. I don't care if you POST but PLEASE LEAVE DUANE WEBER AND JO OUT OF YOUR POST AND IF YOU SAY I SAID THIS OR THAT - PROVE IT! DON'T JUST CLAIM IT WAS IN A PHONE CALL. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Still trying to SELL your book! When you read Max's book you will EAT your words. Within the book is the only map I had of the flight PATH and please not it shows the Vector going EAST of Vancouver. A copy of the Village Bulletin Board where Max left his message for Clara. There is a letter supposedly composed by Cooper to Max in 1972. This was Max's 1st contact and then the contacts ceased until 1982 when Clara contacted Max again. When you read the letter supposedly written by Cooper and compare it with thing Duane Weber wrote in the later 70's and 80's you will see a strong relationship in the wordin and his use if the back space to make a correction....as compared to things typed and written by Duane L. Weber. Something the FBI did NOT ever come see and ignored. If you could read something by Duane Weber - you will see that the composer of this letter was the same person. In this letter he mentions his regrets about another jumper who died - doing what he did. In the letter Cooper is exactly the way Duane was - trying to make something good out of something bad. He spent the rest of his life doing that. Failed miserably at times but in the end he actually won the battle between right and wrong...except for the Kool Aid (just keeping in practice). I just noted something else - the letter is postmarked in February of 1972 from N.Y. The letter was the START of Max's interest. Then 10 yrs later Clara contacts Max by phone. Clara had not seen Cooper for 10 yrs and truely expected he was deceased. In 1982 Clara writes a letter to Himmelsbach (how she was able to mail them without a post mark or if she had someone else mail them - I do not know). The envelopes are probably in Max's file or perhaps discard as most of us do an envelope. In a busy office the trash is trash and no chance of retrival. I have letters from Duane's friend - that could have been written by Clara. Clara is insisten Cooper wore walking shoes and not loafers...Duane preferred the ankle boot with a zipper on the side. Again the words sound like Duane's old friends notes to me. The FBI never offered to have a person trained in this type of stuff to compare the written documents for wording and use of words. I have things written and composed by Weber and by this special friend. She give herself away when she writes - by stating "Cooper had his own reasons for giving me some false details of his early life or the hijacking". She is admitting that much of what she knows was relayed by Cooper to her and yet she is insistent he wore walking shoes. That is the coy way the Friend of Duane's wrote. Then the ICING on the CAKE! "We all have some larcency in our hearts, don't we?" The very same words used by Duane's friend - the VERY SAME. The short letter to the Group from Cooper is a match to letters Duane wrote to people he did business with. I threw away an old manual typewriter Duane had when we moved from Ft. Collins to Mobile. Duane I thought was going to kill me when he found out I got rid of the thing - I had a newer typewriter and some things had to go...it was the newer typewriter we used for Office Memos. The old thing he has was in bad shape. The FBI has NEVER viewed nor asked for copies of these communications from the lady friend or that Duane wrote to compare with those in the FBI files...Max provided them with. I have to assume he as least sent copies if not the original communications to validate what he was telling the FBI. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Yes. This means he made it up and it should not be considered a part of the Cooper investigation, any more than Harry Potter should be considered a real person. What this means: Comparing Duane somehow with Gunther's book makes as much sense as comparing your own cat with the infamous Cheshire Cat in Alice in Wonderland. You do NOT get it at all. Max went to the FBI before he wrote the book. I suggest you read the book with OPEN eyes...and read Max's letter and the notes I made regarding our phone conversations. Only 6 phone calls from a woman who seemed to be a little intoxicated (she had to reinforce herself to even talk to him) and the FBI was involved at a later date after MAX became intrigued by her story only after doing what he could on his end to verify the things she told to him. She feared being prosecuted and remain in fear for many yrs after that. The basis of Max's book came from a woman who claimed she knew Cooper and he went to the FBI BEFORE even considering writing a book. Max did all he could to investigate the things he was told by Clara. The Penzer story was not known to him initially, but upon contacting Mark he learned - what Clara had told him was indeed true. THIS is when he tried to investigate and contacted the FBI - Clara made only ONE contact after Max went to the FBI - because she got cold feet. Not because she was lieing, but because she had been told she could be prosecuted. She made a choice to WALK away at that time. Clara and the friend of Duane's had to be one and the same - because of the stories within and what Max verified as information actually given to him by Clara - Stories I had been told before the book was ever published. Duane Weber did not make the stories up...same stories told to Max by Clara 1982 and Max did NOT publish his book until 1985. This is what peeked Max's interest and he wanted to know how to contact my source. After I divulged the location months later - he made a trip to the area and shortly thereafter Max and I had our LAST communications. Not long after the events above the source entered a nursing home and BEGGED me for my address so she could send me something. A decision I have regretted for 8 yrs. Later I tried to call her I found she had died very suddenly 2 hour earlier. She took with her many secrets and because I did not trust her with my home address - I will never know what she had to send me....What was so urgent? I was dealing with my own problems here because my husband was fighting cancer and that is my only excuse for dropping the ball. I had already contacted the FBI, but they refuse to interview this person and another individual connected to her. Now they are both gone, but I do appreciate the memories they shared with me. Two women with the same story - NO ONE wanted to HEAR! A story the FBI did not want ANYONE to hear, much less believe. So Blevins until you have spent 17 yrs investigating your subject and he is actually investigated by the FBI - DO NOT think for one moment any of this is contrived or poke "NOVEL" at me. You also need to add 17 yrs more - that is how long I was married to Duane. I met Duane in 1977 and he died in 1995 and now it is 2012 and I have NOT backed down (if you stick to the trruth there is NO reason to do so). In August of 2012 I will have devoted 37 yrs to the subject...Duane L. Weber and his confession and the story he left me with and the secrets he took with him. You FORCED information about KC in your interviews and in your book and continue to do so on a regular basis in this thread and to the media. So who WROTE a Novel? Your NOVEL was contrived. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Blevin you have reached the point if someone DOES NOT agree with you that you become very VERY beligerant. How many time tonight did you raise you elbow? Georger did NOT speak one word of support for Max Gunther's book so why did you pile in on him?

One paragraph on this page had me in stitches because Duane had told me this part of the story but did NOT tell me what they hid. NO WAY 1982 versus 1979 and the book was not published until 1985. How could Duane Weber relate a story in 1983 that had NEVER been published. You will find it in this paragraph on page 159: Concerns about the money being found in their living quarters - the removed a wall-mounted medicine cabinet in the bathroom and stuffed the bundle of bills into the space between two-by-four studs, and replaced the cabinet. Duane had told me he and his special friend had hid something in this manner. He told me this story in 1982 or 1983. It was related to me on a overnight trip. The weird things and other circumstances of that trip were enough to raise one's eyebrows. Remember I even suggested a rifle could have been hidden in this manner. He never told me what they hid. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Here it comes again - the explanation of why they went to N.Y. Clara did NOT live in WA - but had gone there to rescue her friend. For the protection of the informer - Max made up the parts about here living in the N.W. He actually discussed this with me. He even told me where he thought she was calling from and it was exactly where Duane's old friend was living in the early 80's. Note on page 154 - Clara and Cooper go looking for the hidden money. It was near where he had buried the chute, but it was gone. Later they go back and actually find the money - but, the story was good for awhile just to pull JT's strings. Wait and see this will cause him to RAIL and call me a liar again. A girl does have to have some fun - once in awhile. Then comes page 157. "The idea was that the hijacker knowing his death was imminent, had decided on an adventure that would either end the waiting or provide him with the means to live out his last days in luxury". This was the intent of Cooper and he survived - so he had to live with it. Since he had involved someone else after the fact (someone who cared for him) - he made the decision to move forward with his life and to aid her in securing her dream since he seemed to bungle everything in his life - they had to go separate ways. Forget what is in the book about Clara for a moment and re-read this paragraph. This was a discussion with Max and what he knew about Clara and what I knew about the other woman. The stories fit together like a pair of shoes. When Max was unable to get the FBI to look at this - he took 6 conversations and wrote his book. Clara did NOT want to incriminate herself and the parts about her being in WA - was Max just writing, but she was in the picture shortly after the crime and had knowledge of the money and did seek counsel as to if she could be prosecuted. She did NOT participate in the crime, but had knowledge of it at a later date and some of the money was spent on her. In 1982 - she thinks he is already dead and having become dependent on alcohol and by then struggling to make ends meet -she hoped she could sell his story, but when the FBI refused to co-operate she ceased ALL contact with Max. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

On some old maps I traced the creek Duane told me about and it did end up in an area where the stream divided and if you followed the light you ended up in the very area he took me to where he said - "That's were Cooper walked out of the woods". It was a long walk I assure you, but the stream made sense with what Duane told me and what Clara was told and related to Max.

Much of what Max says about the actual jump is just his making a story. As for the color of the chute - that was just not discussed. Max added the colors of red and yellow - he did not remember Clara discussing this with him. When it come to the part about the apple and candy bar and burying the money beside a stream except for 16K. Max made parts of that up. Duane was rambling in the hospital about putting 173 or 178 in a bucket and couldn't find the bucket. Therefore based only what Duane said in the hospital and what Clara was told - was just a leap of faith on the part of Max and myself. Since I know a little about Duane's lady of the day - I do not believe he would have told her exactly HOW much he kept or where he buried the rest of the money. Choosing to stick with the stream rather than the light - makes sense also, unless he knew where he was. Duane told me about several streams during our trip, but I did NOT and was unable to try to find these streams without help from someone else (there was NO one I could trust as I had already found too much that contradicted all of the things JT had told me). Duane seemed to focus on a stream that ended up down Near Camp Bonneville -and he told me how it connected to other streams. Bear in mind that in 1979 Duane could not have read this book - it was not published until 1985. How could Duane Weber relate to me and show me things that would eventually be talked about in a book written 6 yrs later. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Max states in his book: All of this is supposedly regarding why Clara's Cooper ended up in WA when it was actually a story about when she first met her Cooper. "He alos discovered that the promised pay rase was much smaller than he had been led to expect. Indeedk in one sense his wages had been reduced, for the basement room he was given to live in - consi;dered as part of his pay- was little more than a closet. It was dam, airless and without cheer." Max goes on to state more of what Clara said: " "He called it his cell," Clara says. "He'd like there at night and wonder what he was doing there." " What Cooper was describing to Clara was a room in a hotel in Colorado where he worked as a Doorman and was provided a sleep room in the basement. Again a truth mixed in time and place. This was the same story Duane told me about the Hotel in Colorado - but, he did not give a time frame (I assumed 1962 after learning of his history). . Max goes on to re-interate more of Clara's story/ "The act of planning a bizarre crime helped him come to terms with himself and his situation. He didn't have to commit the crime. Just thinking of it and working out the details was enough. He could llie in his cell, gaze at the ceiling, and think: well, I havent found my adventrue yet, and I'm still a mouse, but I could change all of that if I wanted to." This is actually referencing a time Clara's Cooper was in jail and if Clara and Duane's old friend are one and the same - he was in Jefferson. Remember that Duane had to tell me about Jefferson in 1995 when he was arrested for trying to obtain a drivers license under the name of John Collins (something he actually accomplished in another county the day before they arrested him in 1995). What he told me about Jefferson is very similar to what Clara relates, but changing it to WA and the time frame right before the skyjacking. The shocking similarities I could not ignore. Remember this - Duane told me things in 1978 and Max's book did NOT come out until 1985. I don't think Duane was aware of the book until 1995 when he contacted his old friend to let her know he was still alive, but had started the kidney machine. Telephone records do NOT lie. There were 2 calls to CA on the shop phone records in early 1990. The old friend of Duane's told me she thought Duane had died several yrs before the FBI and I found her 1996 or 1997. Since Weber was very knowledgable about the sky and moon and the stars - I do believe that Clara - shared that with Max as he wrote about it on page 135. The full moon was how he set the date - he just didn't think about Thankgiving. Clara and Max discuss Risks on page 136. I believe they actually had such a conversation, because Weber was a Risk Taker - why he often got caught for small things - like Kool-aide! When Clara speaks of Cooper's pants fitting him somewhat baggily - I had to laugh. Duane had NO ASS AT ALL. That is why his pants may have appeared baggy in the rear. The old friend of Duane's and myself laughed about how difficult it was to alter his pants so they would fit well. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Clara give Cooper's birth at 1924 or 1925. His heritage is changed by Max (his heritage was German). It is also know that this woman did NOT know Cooper's given name. The woman friend of Duane's did NOT know his real name for the first 6 yrs of their relationship. This was another common thread between Clara and Duane's friend. Max then refers to Cooper as Dan Leclair - this is very much sounding like Duane Lorin. Max makes up things but uses tidbits of Clara revealed about her "Cooper". Her Cooper referred to himself as MOUSE. Once when I was talking to Duane during his last yrs when the weight loss made his ear prevalent. I noted his ears and used the world MOUSE. He told me to NEVER call him that again. As with Duane - Clara mentions that Cooper could look at any broken dow gadget and figure out how to fix it. This was a strong characteristic of Duane Weber. Clara describe his hair as black and what Clara called "a kind of Indian complexion, dark, the kind that turn to color of walnut wood in the sun" The exact way I have described Duane Weber's complexion and all who knew him would. In the script Max used he made up a childhood for Cooper, but used things Clara had been told and knew. Such as Cooper did not like beer but tolerated it to be part of the guys. This was VERY true with Duane. I saw him drink beer with the neighbor guys because they offered it - but he woud never walk into a bar and order a beer. Clara mentions one like a mouse - his heart was in the right place but never learned to swagger. This was Weber all the way. She tells about a scar on his left hand. Duane's prison file mentions this same scar ---which was there on the SanQuentin / Folsom papers. Duane never told me how he got that scar. Clara's Cooper wanted to be a pilot but his eyesite kept him from doing this. The very same thing Duane told me. He was far sighted and in the war you had to have 20/20 vision. She claimed Cooper was nearsighted and this was a reversal Max made to protect Cooper's ID. Max and I took the book from beginning to end with his trying to establish what was fiction and what was real. We both believed that Clara was Weber's special woman. Max provided a college education for Cooper - he had to ad lib to make a story. The expression "Oh, I read up on it" was the very same thing Duane told me when he had knowledge of a subject. Then Clara speaks of the other woman - time and sequence is changed. What she says about this other woman is the very same thing "Duane's special friend told me". A Doris Day type and the facitiously "Little Miss Lucy Lockett" . This was just too much for Max and I to digest. Duane actually left his long time friend for such a woman. Duane told her the other person was pregnant with his child (this turned out not to be true). All of this paralles the same story Clara told Max. Sequences changed. Dates and yrs and sequences are all scramble, but the same story is there as told to me by Duane's special friend and to Max. Max interchanged the yrs and the stories - he did use information provided in those 6 phone calls by a woman who like Duane's special friend sounded as though she had tipped a few to many. The chapter on Lucy is 99% fiction but with sprinkles of truths about character and with the time framing changed. On page 101 - his dream of a fix it shop in Florida - a dream he would not realize until 1988 when we moved to Fla. The parts about disappearing did NOT happen - Duane met me and he just went on - trying not to look behind and to be afraid....1979 to 1988 and the his dream of that shop in Florida became a reality. Max reverses the story to protect his subject - the changing of ID was from 1962 to 1968 to John Collins and not after that. Then he goes back to Duane Weber. In these chapters Clara mentions cutting documents into small pieces and flushing them down the toilet. Exactly what I caught Weber doing in 1982 -but I won't go into that at this time. This chapter actually is Duane in reverse - because he spent 6 yrs as John C. Collins and even obtain a commutations of sentence under this name. Max conveniently made the sequence in even reverse to protect Clara. Max mentions CA in 1970 which is on target with with the story told to me by this special friend regarding a trip to CA and how she fell in love with CA....and when she and Duane went separate way - she did end up living in CA. Max paid her a visit and the ended our talks after he made a trip to CA. This tells about Max's character wanting to locate his daughter. This is about the time Duane Weber actually tried to see his daughter and was rebuffed. The last time he had saw her she was only 9 yrs old now she was in her 20's and in college...I got the impression it was actually 1968. This was told to me by Duane's special friend - same stories to told to Max by Clara. Max and I both felt Clara and Duane's special friend were ONE and the same. Max took the truth to his grave - because after he made that trip to WA he sent me a good by letter and there was ONE conversation after that. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Max states many things about exchanges between the crew and Cooper, but some of it is different than other accounting. We have to remember that Max is writing a book and all he has is 6 phone conversations with a woman who calls herself "Clara". What I will note is that Cooper was demonstrative about the fuel truck and knew that ONE man could do it all by himself. On page 48 he states that Cooper said to the Captain. "Enough of this waltzing around, No more delays. Let's get this show on the road." Almost the very same words Duane said in the hospital only 2 days before he died. He wanted to take a ride but there was a big storm and he shouted "Come on Jo, Let's get this show on the Road". I tried to explain to him how bad the weather was and he stated "Let's get on down the Road" - he was heavy into the morphine those last 3 days. This was approx 9 days after he had confess he was Dan Coooper. Max states in his book that at 8:10 - 24 minutes in to the flight the plane crossed the Lewis River in the Southwest corner of WA, some 25 miles north of Portland. He mentions a brightly lit dam used as a landmark by pilots traversing the region and that on this night the dam was only dimly and intermittently visible. Max did contact the pilots and Himmelsbach and others - is this what he was told or was this just writer's liberaties? He mentions the plane making an odd curtsy right after that and the pilot needing to make a trim to level the flight. His rendering of the chutes is different. Brandy is mentioned as Cooper's choice of drink which was also Duane's along with Scotch at a later date. Duane often changed his taste in drinks. Seagram's 7 was predominant in 1979 and Chiavis Regal. NOTE: on page 59 Clara mentions Cooper looking like Ben Gazzara. This is also what the old friend of Duane said about Duane and this was readily visual in the composites the FBI would NOT make public for a long time. In the beginning they used the "Bing Crosby" look-a-likes. This is why I referred to the later composite as the Ben Gazzara look-alike. I hope this establishes for the last time to JT where this came from. Clara said it first and I named the composite the Ben Gazzara Look-a-like. I was communication with "the friend' and Max that is what I called it,. but perhaps I was not the first. The book mentions the composite in circulation looking like Bing Crosby and why Cooper felt no immediate threat of be discovered. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

I hope NO one thinks BK's answers to Blevins question had anything to do with me. BK's post is a ZERO I came here today, but do NOT feel well, but there are some things I need to discuss. This will take several posts over a period of days - so please bear with me and in the end my point will be made. Most of you know I had a relationship by phone and letters with Max Gunther who wrote a mostly fiction book. After almost 2 yrs of communicating we believed that Clara and a former "friend" of Duane's were one and the same. Clara's first contact Max in 1982. This was 5 yrs after her last contact with "Cooper". He had a total of 6 conversations with her and he readily admitted that was ALL he had. In her first conversation with Max - she told him she was with "Cooper" in N.Y. in 1972 when he contacted Penzer with True Magazine. Max contacted this writer and sure enough a man who ID'd himself as Cooper had contacted him. At the time Clara was talking to Max she thought Cooper had died...I know the last time she saw him was in 1977 and I am sure he washed her out out his life by telling her he would be dead in 5 yrs. (Even Duane told me he only had 5 yrs left when he married me). Little did he know medical advances would increase his life span. Penzer also did an article (date unknown) in the True magazine about being able to change identities. This was a "bell' for me since Duane had kept an old True magzine with this article in it. He raised HELL with me when I threw it away. The 1st light to go off. Duane had told me about spending New Yrs in N.Y. in 1972 and Clara told the same story to Max. A woman from Duane's past had told me about spending New Yrs. with Duane in N.Y. Clara claimed that Cooper was wearing a jump suit under his suit and was sweating. The passenger sitting across from Cooper noted something sticking out from under his pants - he thought perhaps long underwear. I spoke to this witness and this is what he told me. I have heard NO witness reports of Cooper sweating. And much of Clara's story was second hand from Cooper. On page 17 Max talks about Dollar's Corner without explaining what it was. Yet, I know this part of the story as Duane himself told me about Dollar's Corner in 1979. Note how Max slipped Dollar's Corner into his story without any acknowledgment by anyone but yours truely Jo Weber. Max told me he fabricated Clara's background to protect her and she only mentioned that she had been in an unsuccessful marriage prior to meeting Cooper. How she met Cooper was also fabricated. What he does explain with this supposed meeting is that Cooper did injure himself in the jump. The fact that Cooper had big feet was also a truth he put into the this story. Max and I both felt the old friend of Duane's and Clara were one and the same. Hal Williams the boarding agent stated that Cooper was silent and pensive, but didn't remember the color of Cooper's attire (the book say black and other witnesses stated brown). OH my GOD. I just found something I have been searching for - for yrs. Remember my telling you guys about Duane loaning a large sum of money to his boss. I thought I had lost the note - I had used it for a marker. Duane Weber loaned his boss a lot of money on a note. Just where did Duane Weber get money to loan his boss. The note reads "Payable at location in Alabama designated by lender" "no interest" at "zero" percent. This was a 90 day note. I thought this note was GONE forever and I found it...need to take a break. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

NO Book! Public records will do that for me. Something I told the FBI to look at 17 yrs ago, but was ignored. The answers were there all along - in writing. Yet, they spent 100's of thousands to investigate DL Cooper. Future News Article will read something like this: Cooper Case Solved Cooper's widow clamored to the FBI in 1996 about her husband's connections to WA, but was ignored by the FBI...and the FBI dismissed him on the basis of fingerprints only. Many suspects and yrs later ONE man digging not for Cooper's bones, but in old public records found footprints tracing back to this suspect. His name was Duane Weber and he actually confessed to the crime. Will these public records solve this case? Maybe not, but the sure do increase the probability that Duane Weber was indeed Dan Cooper. This is a problematic situation when our government spends 100's of thousands chasing old crimes - and their suspects. New age FBI all, but ignores old written records - too time consuming. His widow recounted what she knew about her husband's past over and over - but NOT one agent actually did a physical research of OLD records. The bones of Cooper are in a jar waiting for a proper burial in the N.W. as his aging widow awaited a response from the FBI. No one within this organization took the time to listen to his widow and attempt to connect the dots...the answer was within her memory, but with no physical evidence to support her memories. One connection on the internet sparked Ms Cooper's interest because it was something her husband had told her about. Not certain this was it - she was hesitant to ask for help. Old archived records supported the memory...and now Ms. Cooper we know the truth! Will our government agencies take the time to even look at what one archivists found supporting in part Ms Weber's memories? Will they even bother now to investigate the other things she told them about? This one find is reason enough for the FBI to put on their glove and dig thru paper files. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Whatever made you think "book". What good is another useless BOOK? The only thing that will work is something that the FBI cannot get past. I will leave that to your imagination. I will assure you the NEW stuff has NOT be put in front of the FBI - they just ignore it. Jo Weber has been subjected to public humiliation for several yrs because of the FBI and the only thing the FBI ever provided me was a letter in 1998 stating the prints did NOT match. That is how they dismissed conducting a full investigation at that time. As time went on - I proved the information the FBI had was flawed. This is why the FBI actually had to sit down with the media in 2001. For some reason I have never seen a public viewing of that CLIP (but I have a copy of the tape) .The agent of record was there, his boss, Doug Pasternak and the moderator. I did NOT participate in this myself nor did I stay in the room it was conducted in, but I was able to hear the audio. I was provided a copy of the interview, but since I do not have cable I do NOT know if it was ever televised. Remember the agent of record had stated - Duane was never in McNeil and he was never in the Army in a conversation in March of 2000. I was holding documentation stating otherwise.This agent quickly said - "I have someone coming into my office I will call you back later". He did call me back about 2 or 3 hours later - explaining he had made an ERROR or TWO. At that time he told me Duane only PASSED thru McNeil, but was not a resident (the prison records read differently) and this is the prison whose prints they used to dismiss Duane. The other error was the Military - the papers I had for the ARMY did not show a discharge date! The agent show a terrible display of not having done his job when he said they had one of the numbers wrong on their end and WHY he insisted Duane had never been in the Army and the number belonged to Wavy Greene. Well, right after that I refiled and got another copy of Duane's military records - they had been CHANGED. The Army record did NOT get changed on its own in only 3 months. When the FBI realized I and a news reporter had called them on the carpet - then and only then did they cover their tracks. ALSO note that when I applied the second time for Duane's military records - what happened in the VA office. I am sure you have heard the story before and dismissed as JO getting things wrong. I assure you what happened in that VA office actually happened. The file came up CLASSIFIED. The officer dismissed himself and then came back to the room after speaking with his superior. At that time I was told since I was NOT listed as a beneficiary or survivor - he could give me ANY information. Had me fill out the same papers I had filled out before - except this time there was a discharge date on the papers returned to me. Bear in mind - the errors they made in 1997-1998 when they sent me the letter (which I have kept) dismissing Duane based ONLY on prints. Now think about WHERE this is going. If you were in my shoes what would you do? Let's NOT EVEN TALK about all of the OTHER STUFF, that has been located since. THINGS no one thought I could ever find! Things that have NOT been discussed in this thread...and will not be. These things Have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the gibberish BK keeps spewing out. 2020 is too far away -based on my age I made my decision and I want something NOW while I am still alive - this is NOT a monetary nor recognition play. I have pleaded with the FBI to tell me what they know about Weber, but they refused to answer any questions and stand their ground or ignore me. WHAT WOULD YOU DO if you HAD INFORMATION THE FBI HAD SAT ON or IGNORED? They have NO intentions to really examine the things I had kept them abreast of...note it has been a long time since I provided them with one iota. I dropped out of the media in 2002 and since 2006 this thread has been my voice, but Twisty Butt got my dander up and that was when I decided to use the information we have continued to collect...and the new contacts I have made. Verifiable contacts and they are part of the story I told the FBI 17 yrs ago. What would you do? A book? I am not a writer, but others are, but who wants to read another Cooper book? What is there new they can add? Things I told the FBI many 17 yrs ago have been verified - I pleaded with them to look into the provided - they did NOTHING with it. They have for yrs REFUSED to provide me with an answer as to WHY they can state Weber was NOT Cooper. What proof do they have other than Prints? When the last few things WE have found are disclosed - things will not look good for the authorities. The government certainly does not need my help with that. Remember this is an election yr - When do we go to the POLLS to vote? Might be a GOOD time to release NEW information! Good Grief - now I sound like BK. Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Specific agencies and government officials may be reading the postings and declarations made by BK. Perhaps some of these high ranking officials indicated by BK. Who could believe a government agency actually sanctioned BK's behavior? BK cannot even prove he was in the service much less invited to secret operations or knew their procedures? ============================================== Knoss stated: . Jo Weber States: Phony Story? - You (BK) are the one who created the red/white chute - NOT Jo Weber. You have NO idea what obscure facts I do have. ==================== Knoss Stated: Jo States: Cat chasing its own tail! Oh,you Poor Poor Puddy Cat! Exactly why would anyone "vote" to kill Duane Weber? He didn't tell me who he was until he signed his own death warrant by refusing anymore dialysis...11 days before he died. The more you post here the more unbelieveable you are! Exactly what did Duane Weber expose me to prior to refusing diaylsis? A TRIP - which was meaningless to me until he made his confession (LET ME RESTATE THIS FOR YOU - UNTIL 1 YR AND 2 MONTHS AFTER HE DIED I DID NOT KNOW WHO DAN COOPER WAS. Whew! I am glad this is ALMOST over! Really can't handle much more of BK....... Hey, Maybe the "conspirators" will decide to WACK BK - you think? I wish! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Knoss stated: . Jo Weber States: Phony Story? - You (BK) are the one who created the red/white chute - NOT Jo Weber. You have NO idea what obscure facts I do have. ==================== Knoss Stated: Jo States: Cat chasing its own tail! Oh,you Poor Poor Puddy Cat! Exactly why would anyone "vote" to kill Duane Weber? He didn't tell me who he was until he signed his own death warrant by refusing anymore dialysis...11 days before he died. The more you post here the more unbelieveable you are! Exactly what did Duane Weber expose me to prior to refusing diaylsis? A TRIP - which was meaningless to me until he made his confession (LET ME RESTATE THIS FOR YOU - UNTIL 1 YR AND 2 MONTHS AFTER HE DIED I DID NOT KNOW WHO DAN COOPER WAS. Whew! I am glad this is ALMOST over! Really can't handle much more of BK....... Hey, Maybe the "conspirators" will decide to WACK BK - you think? I wish! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

BK stated This: Well, you are a REAL SUCKER for bait aren't you. A Lawyer? How would you know - Lawyer, FBI, CIA, Government or Covert? Did I mention anyone's name?

Weird! There was another post by Blevins and one by myself that just went POOF. There may have been others or maybe that old lady who keeps showing up moved in with me. I made a brief post about the "code" in my post and the source of it. POOF! Yrs ago I received a call from an individual I was suprised had taken the time to contact me. I never discussed the call with ANYONE, because NO one would have believed me. I never reveal the conversation, but after several yrs - I don't even know if this person is still alive and still with the government. I was able to verify the call - so it was not someone pulling one on me. If BK was for real he would have caught the "code" Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

BK responded to my post in which there was a "code" word, but he did NOT get it. If I told you guys what this code word was then he would quickly make-up something and include it in his story. It may not be a "code" word, but it was a word that should have got BK's attention right off. He didn't blink an eye! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber

Very easy to find out if the pic of the "pilot" is the co-pilot. Blevins you supposedly had a phone interview set up with him so why don't you mail him a copy and just ASK or is that too simple and direct? If you can't or won't or think he will not read your mail - send me a good copy and I will send it to him....it is very very simple to just ASK! Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber