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are you guys fuckin serious?? chill, we're talking about suids, not penis sizes I think you two have a little crush on each other and need to come out of the closet... Phantom2?? Tbird/Rbird?? naaah... there is one suit that beats all of them... Lurch's Hard Case cmon, let's go easy on the pissing contest, otherwise we'll just scare people away from both manufacturers demo demo demo! that's the way to go and the only proper way to choose!

Not trying to flame you. Just asking the obvious question since sooner or later somebody will ask it on here. If you have all the necessary jumps/experience, then yeay! welcome to the flock! And in response to your initial question... Phantom2 for sure! (or T-Bird, R-Bbird etc)

how many jumps do you have? cause your profile currently says 106 and that doesn't sound so good.

I'll leave it to the organizers to post the pictures and discuss what's going on, but one thing I want to point out is that when you zoom into the tiny pic that DSE posted you don't really see some wingsuits that are mostly white on the front as they seem to blend in kinda well with the bright sky behind. You need a few more pixels to see exactly what's going on in there.

ahhh, that RBird flew so well... I want it back!!!

and i'll add 2 more 1. Purple Mike 2. Michal M 3. Obama 4. J-Sho 5. Andreea 6. Dan M -- no handlebars 7. Stu 8. Scott Gray 9. Chris Gray 10. MonkeyBoy 11. Taya 12. "One Ball" Rick 13. "responsible" Phil Peggs 14. Mark K. 15. "irresponsible" one and a half ball "Stoney" 16. Lurch "Most stylish debris cloud in history" 17-20. The CPI Regulars (Mark K apparently doesn't count) 21. Teh Skwrl. 22. Tony Uragallo 23. Simon 24. Steve H. 25. Kyle O 26. Soby 27. Paul Cain 28. Elana Cain

i bet he checked it. he just doesn't love you as much anymore

I see a contradiction here.

I say they should wait with the posting until there are 2 threads of 100 posts yelling that there is no picture or there is no grid-worthy picture... and another 2 threads bitching about numbers and gps tracks... isn't that how we do things around here? jokes aside... sounds like you guys are doing some cool stuff! can't wait to see the eye candy. wish I was there!

sooo... is this on youtube yet? I wanna see I wanna see I wanna see I wanna see!!! no tv here... Cmon, someone upload it please!

unix version coming up anytime soon? cause I just broke my windows VM again.

niiice and very smooth... now the question is: did jimmy push back?

1. Purple Mike 2. Michal M 3. Obama 4. J-Sho 5. Andreea

HAAAAAHAAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAAHAAA Brian!!! Get your head out of my ass! and note to self: trying to roll 2 people at once like that is not as easy as you'd think

hey, that's cheating. no freeflyers hanging off the feet!

dude that's awesome. get more video of that shit, it looks so damn good. better not cork wearing that XS, huh?

very well done! congrats!

I really like the predefined regular lattice idea! The predefined part is key though. Need to declare it before the jump. otherwise, almost anything would fit...

dude you really crack me up. too funny. are you trying really hard to be a better than ever troll or what? I'd assume that by now you've been postwhoring on here enough to have at least read some of Yuri's L/D - D/L threads to answer your own question. Wingsuiting is all about flocking just like skydiving is all about RW (or VRW, or CRW). when you start jumping your ass off what difference does it make? it's not like you're gonna buy one tomorrow. You got a very comprehensive explanation above. Take the various suits featured on Tony's website, and apply the Bird mods and voila! You get the respective

Interesting idea with the different styles of grids. Trigonal grid - I'm having a bit more trouble applying this to a wingsuit formation, just because of the orientation of the triangles... you have alternating triangles pointing up and pointing down, and while that works awesome for an RW formation, we won't be flying like that... assuming that you have a standard for drawing the wingsuiter inside the triangle, e.g. head always points to one vertex while tail spreads on the other two etc. So it's a bit less intuitive. Unless you consider the "pointing down" triangles to just be unoccupied space. In that case, though, the grid could be converted to a rhombus-shaped one. Which would be diamonds. Maybe not exactly not squares. So maybe the 90 degree restriction screws things up a bit. But only in terms of how we do the spacing. HExagonal grid - seems like it's again just a matter of what spacing is used. Otherwise there is no fundamental structural change in the formation shape compared to one of the same general shape but planned on the square grid. Push each row of people further back by a little bit and the formation is good to go for squares. So, if we were to be real picky and properly differentiate among all of the above, what would be the ideal solution? Circles that are either tangent or fully intersect chunks of each other? I'm thinking you could convert any grid to that, since for whatever shape you're using you could just replace it with its circumscribed circle. But then we get into a far worse relaxation of the current criteria. It has already been pointed out that some not so nice looking blob-style formations still fit the current judging criteria, so any generalization would make it even worse. So it feels like we still need to impose some form of symmetry, and the squares look like a good compromise. So far the grid looks promising. Let's see what cool stuff people can fit on the grid at Summerfest and Pepperell and other upcoming boogies.

how about you use the search function. I'm sure there's plenty to be found.

try the SBird first. that's quite an animal, too... Besides, that blue/navy SBird Tony had at Skyfest should fit you pretty well.

no way. it's gotta be lower :) depends how many jumps were averaged... I'll bid 1650, I'm optimistic :)

no, I'm saying when you have to extend the criteria to accommodate verticals and other shit like that... or backfly-bellyfly combinations, or who knows what, docked formations or whatever, then there will be other stuff added, that's all.

dude, give it some time. we are already yelling "when we gonna see distance" when this is obviously JUST THE BEGINNING it's a good start... and we still have a looong way to go... but at least USPA finally RECOGNIZES us... until now we had NOTHING, now we have SOMETHING, something to build on, something to start from, and to improve upon. like I said.. give it some time... and push for speed/distance yourself, rather than sitting around and whining on the forums... see how hard it is to push things through like that... but oh boy we are always quick with the criticism cause you're not in the grid (again, couldn't resist...) and for all we know given the proper time we will be able to improve on our judging criteria as necessary. if we come to the conclusion that we're doing such cool shit that the silly grid is old and outdated, we'll move on to bigger and better, whatever that may be. again... at least we are beginning to have SOME FORM OR RECOGNITION. this is BIG!!!