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So, it's happening again. Here's the background. I'm working on this dz as a packer in order to stay in skydiving. I guess skydiving is my drug. However, this dz owner is a source of drama around dz. Most of the time, inside him, the love of $ is more powerful than the voice of reaason. He puts students out for AFF in high winds - who get injured - he hires new instructors with questionable judgement (one new guy droped the drouge in a cessna and was hold by an experiment instructor inside the plane and the guy almost get out of the situation by blaming the packers, the camera man are constantly reporting that he is turning on one side and that they have to hold the hand of the customer). This guys is like his protege (and he comes from a rich background). Anyway, we have this reporting of "wrap lock" (which I think it's an inveted malfunction). This "wrap lock" (which we never see on video, or any proof that exists) happens only to him or the students that jump with him. The maximum rate of occurance is 3 by day (to the same person). For almost one month he was not at the dz because of some BS that eventually back fired to him. All that time there was no "wrap lock". Now he's back and "wrap lock" it's back. I'm getting tired of this lie. I think skydiving is not the place to play games that breaks people confidence and this really iritates me. I want to prove once and for all that there is no "wrap lock" and so to expose the inventor of the thingy. My plan, which I want to discuss with you, is as follow: - Measure the force (at the patch) that it takes to unwrap the wraped parachutte in 10 samples of normal packed parachutes by different packers. - Progressivly add eleastics (or duct tape bands over the line where it wraps) and measure the force again (which will be higher) - Progressively jump the packed job with elastics and open at terminal at a high altitude to see if the "wrap lock" occours. I'm also thinking of experimeting on ground by using the blast a cessna 206 has and measure the air speed to see how big is. I'm also considering giving this myth to mythbasters and see what they can come up with. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

it fell out on the floor while moving around and lets say it's on the floor behind the pilot chair. The tandem team gets out and the drougue with the bridal unfolding stays in the plane. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

the drouge stays inside the plane, Cessna 206? Theoretically speaking. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Genius move! Will try! Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Thanks man. I have a lot to learn about what the average student is. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Thanks man. I will re-think and change my approach. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Hahaha. I see your point. Nice one. Have you also notice that all the people who think they're smart are usually wrong? Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

I'm a radio instructor and yesterday we've handled a guy who couldn't make the difference between left and right. We've brief the student that we'll use a convention for left and right. Left was turn with the altimeter hand and right was turn with the hand. He landed safe. Where do you draw the line in terms of awareness in students? Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

The packers on our dz are looking to buy t-shirts that say: "Your Packer secretly hates you". Anybody can help? Hello? Is there anybody out there?

I'm currently working on my 90's. Double fronts work like charm. I've never wanted to swoop. I've started with the pattern. Few times I was too high in the 2nd point of the pattern and I've cranked a 90 on front. My eyes begin to see the dive and the recovery part and I've begin to do it for the final and always to high. It was freaking awesome because my accuracy improved. I'm talking about you grab a front and you crank a 90. Then one time when I was too high, instead of releasing the front riser I've finish in double fronts and hold it to 1 sec before flare and release it slowly and got a nice surf. That's when I've started the double fronts. Now I'm working on half brakes to double to carve 90 without finishing on double fronts (because we want to practice perfection) and I'm still 10 feet to high last time. Meanwhile I'm also working on downsizing to increase my recovery arc and today I've done a crosswind on a one size smaller (170) rent gear. I'm looking forward for a 150 but before that I want to do the check list for 170. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

What if you can extend our conscious (ourself) to that level? Around 5 years old I was able to look at one person and make that person or rather attach the conotation of beautiful or ugly to that person and change it as I've please. Now, if we assume or believe that we can get control over that level of choices (what we love, what we hate) the question is: how do we achieve that from where we are now? What's the road from here? I think that the 1st step is to start believing that we can get control over those parts (feelings, fear, what we like) that have control over us. And, if there really exists this road, the road that can take us (our conscious part) from where we are to that level of deepness, then this road has to start somewhere in our conscious part and it has to be experienced in 1st person and not in the 3rd person (3rd person - like an outside view). This is what I think and I'm just looking for some info if anybody else tried to find this road. Anyway, have fun, 1st person!

If one person, believes that he can be 100% in control and he looks for the moments when he doesn`t have control and he makes a personal effort to try to understand why he doesn`t have the control and he fights to get the control, at the end he`ll be more in control (percentage wise) than an average Joe that just believes that he has a `sub something` that is in control over his choices and that`s just fine. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Don't be weak in your believes, believe in yourself as a conscious self as much as I believe in you! Hahahaha sounds like religion but is not. I believe that behind *every* action, *every* choice you make, *every* belief you have, that there's a conscien person choosing to do so, doing it's best with what it has

Is it the first thing to do, in order to be in full control: is to believe that you don't have something called "subconscious" that has control over you from time to time and to start looking on how to be 100% in control? Does it sound logical to you? Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Thanks guys, it confirms my thougts. Somebody is doing some manipulative work to make packers feel bad. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

I'm talk about when you wrap the tail over the canopy and fold it few times before you put it on the ground. Is it a chance in frozen hell that the fold will lock on opening making it a cocoon lock? Like the packed "cocoon" is out of the bag and just the folded wrap prevents the canopy of opening. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Does it really exit? I mean using your regular pro-packing quality that you find at each DZ professionals packers, is it really possible to create a wrap lock? Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

The beatings will continue until morale improves. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Hey people, how many times the plane doesn't go up because you're missng an I (LOL) ..... HAHAHAHAH .... you're missing a jumper. Would the 8 people consider paying 2$ to rent a fun-jumper? I will try to do this idea. Rent a fun jumper. Half the price of the ticket and there's a fun jumper climbing with you. On the menu: In airplane fake beer for kewl photos, crazy atmosphere in the plane, singing your favorite song, crazy exits, belly or freefly or both or angel flight (angled flight). Light crew with kewl photos. More ideas to come. Go and rent a fun jumper. A message aproved by your local jumping whore. Now for a small price you can enjoy it for real. Hahahaha Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Like there's no more love for skydiving at all. Everyone is more concern about how they make $ that they really hate eachothers while staying "professionals" (polite). There are also some idiots always doing stupid redundant pranks making everything worst. Do you have any ideas on how can this situation improve? Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Out of wings, mirage, vector and javelin I prefer vector 3. I love the riser flap, the magnetic riser covers saves me few seconds on each pack, the closing loop doesn't deform the bag, the stowing of the excess brake lines is pretty fast to do and you have the true lock and I love it even more if it has risers that are a bit more rigid. Rigid feels good on a rig. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

There's a Canadian Urban myth that is propragated by the guys from CSPA that the size of elastics contribuates to the opening speed. Can anybody confirm or deny it. I think that give the fact that we have elastic free bags the value of this myth is questionable. Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Can somebody make this thread a sticky please? Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

I like it! Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!

Just trying to learn and do something good at the dz where I work. What's a better model for calculating the separations between groups (constant separation between each group no matter what they do freefly/belly solo/2way/3way/4way) for a turbine dz? Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls!