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No connection to Al Qaeda? No way. No direct connection to 9/11, I'll buy that. But no connection to Al Qaeda? Bill, you know better than that. - Jim Who cares? Bush doesn't. "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02 "I am truly not that concerned about him." - G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02 You are really quite good at portraying BWB's quotes out of context. Thank you.

Great reminder! Thanks "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

You know......I agree with you about the FCC rules but your example is pathetic "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

No connection to Al Qaeda? No way. No direct connection to 9/11, I'll buy that. But no connection to Al Qaeda? Bill, you know better than that. - Jim Who cares? Bush doesn't. "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02 "I am truly not that concerned about him." - G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts, 3/13/02 You are really quite good at portraying BWB's quotes out of context. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I take that as a strongly racist comment and there are many others dotted throughout the text. It is true that in the beginning the author draws a distinction between terrorists and Muslims, but later the author either purposely or accidentally blurs that distinction. I accept that there is a possibility that the author is simply racist and does not seek to promote that opinion but does so accidentally. There is also the possibility that the author is attempting to discreetly sell that concept to the reader. Either way, my [I]subjective[/I] take on it is that there is racist hatred of Muslims (not just terrorist Muslims, but [I]all[/I] Muslims) bound up in that text. Now that is a stretch! I agree with an earlier post Since one can not easily dispute the content go after the author or origin. Don't get me wrong, I understand the "where did this truly come from" argument. but to call the author rasist? I would bet you think Arnold is a homophobe to? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I don't know... I personally don't give a shit about who he was sleeping with. He did an Ok job running the country. I say 'ok' because there isn't really a way to make everyone happy. There will always be people who disagree and people who agree with what is being done by the president. (One of the pluses of being a democratic society.) I certainly don't think he did any worse than the rest of em. For the most part I agree with you. But as for an OK job......can you name three things Clinton accomplished as President? And don't tell me he balanced the budget because congress controls the purse strings.......but I will give you this one if you want. Two more? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Wow, you managed to discredit 4 different sources, with absolutely nothing more than a couple sentances with no sources, and a comment about hanging onto the past... The post I copied was from today, and the quotes, except the one from 2003, are all recent. I think a discussion with you will not be objective, nor without subtle insults, so I'll back away now. Have a great day. As you leave take a look at your own post. Look at some of the dates of the data being spoken of. You need to back away before..........well You have a great day too. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Hhhmmmmmmm... http://www.ndtv.com/...d=56859&callid=1 [Quote] "Mayaki said a businessman helped set up the meeting, saying the Iraqis were interested in "expanding commercial relations" with Niger - which Mayaki interpreted as an overture to buy uranium, Wilson said." So Mayaki's interpretation of an event is solid evidence? This is the only specific event about these claims that I have found, and I'm sure that you'd agree that it is anything but solid. http://mostlyafrica.blogspot.com [Quote] "The US Senate committee's report mentions a meeting in 1999 as well ... can't tell if they're talking about the same meeting though. The meeting was mentioned in an intelligence report produced following Ambassador Wilson’s trip to Niger. The intelligence report indicated that former Nigerian Prime Minister Ibrahim Mayaki was unaware of any contracts that had been signed between Niger and any rogue states for the sale of yellowcake while he was Prime Minister (1997 – 1999) or Foreign Minister (1996 – 1997). Mayaki said that if there had been any such contract during his tenure, he would have been aware of it. Mayaki said, however, that in June 1999, [redacted] businessman, approached him and insisted that Mayaki meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss “expanding commercial relations” between Niger and Iraq. The intelligence report said that Mayaki interpreted “expanding commercial relations” to mean that the delegation wanted to discuss uranium yellowcake sales. The intelligence report also said that “although the meeting took place, Mayaki let the matter drop due to the UN sanctions on Iraq.” (source) Here is the thing ... in an interview with the BBC conducted a couple of days ago, Mayaki said he has no recollection of such a meeting." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3891503.stm [Quote] "Niger's former prime minister has said that Iraq did not try to buy uranium, contradicting claims made in the build-up to the invasion of Iraq. Ibrahim Mayaki told the BBC that no Iraqi delegation went to Niger while he was foreign minister or prime minister...." I, still, have yet to see any solid evidence supporting these claims. Look again! Wilson has now admitted that his statements (the earlier ones) were a lie. The new SIC report now says something different than what you post above. Those reportedly forged papers were not the documents that the Bush statement was based on. Stopping hanging on to the past "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

You lost me?? All I am saying in this thread that this is one more piece of evidence contradicting all those who said Bush lied. I have never said anything about the Kerry connection "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Wait a second! This isn't one of those times when someone has spoken against the administration, and is discredited... Where did he admit to lying, and what did he lie about? I think that you may be misreading the article... Need more? http://www.suntimes.com/output/novak/cst-edt-novak15.html "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Wait a second! This isn't one of those times when someone has spoken against the administration, and is discredited... Where did he admit to lying, and what did he lie about? I think that you may be misreading the article... Look, I only said Bush was right. I never talked about the Kerry issue even though it is in the article. But as to what Wilson lied about. here is more information[url] http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14264 "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Braking your own rules? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Admitted that he has psychic powers. Are you not following along? The article, that supposedly was motivated by boosting Kerry's campaign was published 2 months before Kerry announced his candidacy. Come on man, follow the news sources you deem credible!!!! Wilson admitted to the the Senant Intelligence Committee that he lied! He even admitted the reason. This is fun!!! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I love that line. The Republicans claim Wilson't motivation in writing this article was to boost Kerry's campaign. The article was published July 6, 2003. He must have some super secret psychic powers or something. God this is fun. WISLON ADMITTED IT TO THE SIC!!! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

If you think ANY news source is 100% credible, think again. They all have their own agendas, and Murdoch does nothing to hide which side of the fence he sits on. But in answer to your question, i would say Fox rates near the lower end of the credibility stakes, so yes, i agree, this is straw clutching, although im standing by with my hat in hands to eat it, should it turn out to be anything but. The Fox report backs up the SIC report. Does that make it credible? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Dam, if that doesn't get straight to the point!!!!!! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I'm waiting... $87 Billion, and you find NOTHING in 1.5 years - and now this... Typical, change the issue. Different situation completely!! Nice try again but let us stay on topic please! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126124,00.html] The evidence is starting to trickle in! Claims of WMD's in other countries that came from Iraq are starting to bubble up too. (That will be substantiated next wait and see) The truth is coming out! The lies and rhetoric start to look foolish. Oh, I forget, Fox is not a credible news source. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

The US sent more money for aids that the rest of the world countries combined. The WMD fact in not wrong and the link is getting stronger every day. Not to mention that the SIC found that there is a solid link to Iraq buying that Uranium yellow cake. The man Bush sent LIED to the papers and admitted it to the SIC. .....and it is in the report. Open your eyes "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I think Bill Booth posted an answer to the F111/ZP question a while back. If I remember correctly.......in a failure ZP will tear further faster than F111. While ZP is stronger and it takes more to start a rip, once started the failure is more catastrophic. F111 takes less pressure to start a rip but will stop quicker. Hope this helps "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

{choke, splutter....} Rush, you owe me a new monitor!!! Sorry "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Does it make it true if a "London paper" reports it. I've seen papers in my supermarket claiming that GWB is an extraterrestrial and that Liz Taylor is pregnant. Nice come back. I notice you did not say anything about the Senate Intelligence report item??? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

QuoteOkay, just for the sake of some discussion, I'm willing to accept that both Bush and Blair, along with the entire CIA, and MI6 are claiming they were duped, conned, misled, lied to whatever. So...... Who was doing the duping? The third man on the grassy knoll, aliens, OBL? A London paper reported last week that Iraq had indeed bought uranium yellow cake powder. The US Senate report says that the man sent to the country to investigate lied. He admitted to lying to the Senate committee that interviewed him. He also admitted that he found evidence that Iraq had actually purchased the yellow cake..Hmmmm.. I guess the right wing CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS and NPR don't think it is an important fact. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

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