Lucky...

And I would be critical of this; this issue has nothing to do with nationalism, it has to do with rules and sportsmanship.

Countries compete for the priv of putting on teh show, so there are rules and no homefield advantage. Teh team agreed that it was wrong and apologized. It was wrong and will be wrong in the future.

Yea, but the olympics are about worldwide sportsmanship. Unless it's in strict privacy, celebrations must be PC. Even NFL doesn't allow excessive celebration.

Lucky's Interests: Everything but skydiving; I hate skydiving. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Now i see why Matt called you a troll. This is the worst thread that I have seen.. Gee, I went skydiving last weekend and I'm going tomorrow.....bet I go more than you now that I'm working again....thx Obama.

Nah...that was November '09 . It's all over but the shouting. You win a couple gov seats while still having a small minority in congress and now you're celebrating???

It's a real shame that it couldn't have gone teh other way so conservs could have a nice weekend knowing the US is less successful than previously thought.

Wait for the second or third "revision" and then get back to us Your a hoot Revised UP to +5.9% change. that is a good thing for a change Are you fucking joking? The change started the first whole quarter of Obama's term and it has just gottne better every time. http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm Which part of that doesn't make sense to you?

Wait for the second or third "revision" and then get back to us Your a hoot Revised UP to +5.9% change. God damnit! You stole my thunder! I waited all day to do that.... ..... Nice job. All the geniuses who said it would be revised lower. I like Mike, I offered him a deal that the GDP would be, I think I said 20% of +5.0. Good thing he didn't take that, I almost lost on the high end . Of course he didn't take it, he prolly would have bowed out and brought in nominal GDP anyway . All is good, just keep hoping the US takes a shit, Repubs/conservs...... nice to see the real Americans hoping for peril for the US.

Simply, you asseted that the market was on teh verge of a crash as I was celebrating the economic gains from your guy's mess and crash. I said it wasn't imminent, you more harshly asserted it was. Well, that was how many montsh ago? 4, 5? Now youclaim I don;t knwo what I'm talking about when the market is holding steady. Check yourself. Right, buying short. Great job, watching that asshole you elected was a lock for a hard crash from 14k+ to 6500, what a mad winfall of cash for short buyers; noce job. But now your shorts are eating your shorts, huh? Wait, what is that I hear? Your phone ringing; your margins are due. Well, if you listened to me then you did. If you listed to yourself, the only shorts we need to talk about are the ones you lost. Do I need to search the old thread again? Listen carefully: IF YOU HANG AROUND LONG ENOUGH, THE MARKET WILL DROP, EVEN CRASH, THEN YOU CAN CALL YOURSELF A GENIUS. BUT FOR NOW, IT'S BEEN 4+ MONTHS SINCE YOU DECLARED A LOOMING CRASH AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED, SO LET IT GO; YOU'RE WRONG. Based upon my prediction of success and yours of failure; YOU'RE WRONG!

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It predates my birth. Let's talk about cases where the Democrats actually do something to their own. Right now you seem to be in a glass house below an avalanche zone. BLAGOJEVICH Obama told him to step down, the state congress removed him. Neeed a more recent example or should we talk Scooter Libby, Larry Craig or others?

Or for being Republiscum friends with fascist Ronnie, get convicted, get pardoned.... Steinbrener.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi appeared to defend Rangel from the charges. Nice try. Larry Craig, Scooter Libby.... you're trumped.

The Olympics are not some street game. Hell, even NBA/NFL players have parameters. I think their celebration could be considered grandstanding, altho I don't think they meant it that way. Olympics, like college sports are different that pro sports, I think it was inappropriate, altho I'm not offended, it's just not the venue. The superbowl shuffle was brash, but that was a private enterprise, the gold medal shuffle was part of a world government enterprise; not cool.

You are unreal! No, I'm here and I'm real. It's a shame you can't put your feelings to words. Oh I can but there is nothing to respond to other than a worthless post talking about a mans possible death and him ending up in hell. Even if you do not believe in a hell.... it doesnt matter. It is yet another post from you without class and shows everyone here once again what you are all about. Pathetic! Naw, what's pathetic is your stock market prediction. Oh, in several months or years the market will crash, probably once the R's have influence again, and then you will claim victory. Come on, man-up; your market crash prediction was pathetic. What's also not so great is your love of Cheney.

No, the "birther movement" is a tactic, albeit a poor one, to get a socialist, communist sympathizer, out of the office of POTUS. So, you're saying that it's ok because it's viable tactic even if it's a fuckin' stupid one? That it's ok for people to lie to mouth breathing idiot followers as long as they're trying to get "socialist, communist sympathizer, out of the office of POTUS"? Really? No, I am not. It is a game for the lawyers. BTW, when you resort to profanity in your posts you damage your credibility. You might try subscribing to one of the "word a day" services on the internet. Just a suggestion. When you resort to theatrics, semantics, spell-checking, etc you illustrate you have no credibility.

You mean read past the data. Republicans are like teh fonz in that he couldn't say he was wrong; the R's can't address data. Then let's look at all the vetoes and overrides: VETOES NOT OVERRIDEN 1. July 19, 2006: Vetoed H.R. 810, Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005, a bill to ease restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. Override attempt failed in House, 235-193 (286 needed). 2. May 1, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 1591, U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007. Override attempt failed in House, 222-203 (284 needed). A later version of the bill that excluded certain aspects of the initial legislation that the President disapproved of... H.R. 2206, was enacted as Pub.L. 110-28 with the President's approval. 3. June 20, 2007: Vetoed S. 5, Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2007. No override attempt made. 4. October 3, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 976, Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 ("SCHIP"). Override attempt failed in House, 273-156 (286 votes needed). 6. November 13, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 3043, Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act of 2008. Override attempt failed in House, 277-141 (279 votes needed). 7. December 12, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 3963, Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007.[25] Override attempt failed in House, 260-152 (275 votes needed). 8. December 28, 2007: Pocket Vetoed H.R. 1585, National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008[26]. A later version of the bill that changed a minor provision of which the President disapproved was quickly passed by Congress (H.R. 4986) and was enacted with the President's approval as Pub.L. 110-181 on 28 January 2008. 9. March 8, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 2082, Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008.[27][28] Override attempt failed in House, 225-188. 10. May 21, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 2419, 2007 U.S. Farm Bill.[29][30] Overridden by House, 316-108 (283 votes needed). Overridden by Senate, 82-13 (64 votes needed). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-234 over the President's veto. Due to a clerical error, this act was repealed by Pub.L. 110-246. 11. 18 June 2008: Vetoed H.R. 6124, 2007 U.S. Farm Bill, re-passed by Congress to correct a clerical error in HR 2419.[31] Overridden by House, 317-109 (284 votes required). Overridden by Senate, 80-14 (63 votes needed). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-246 over the President's veto. 12. July 15, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 6331, Medicare Improvements for Patients and Providers Act.[32] Overridden by House, 383-41 (283 votes required.) Overridden by Senate, 70-26 (64 votes required). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-275 over the President's veto. KELP'S HERO HAD THESE VETOES OVERRIDEN 5. November 2, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 1495, Water Resources Development Act of 2007. Overridden by House, 361-54 (277 votes needed). Overridden by Senate, 79-14 (62 needed), and enacted as Pub.L. 110-114 over President's veto. 10. May 21, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 2419, 2007 U.S. Farm Bill.[29][30] Overridden by House, 316-108 (283 votes needed). Overridden by Senate, 82-13 (64 votes needed). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-234 over the President's veto. Due to a clerical error, this act was repealed by Pub.L. 110-246. 11. 18 June 2008: Vetoed H.R. 6124, 2007 U.S. Farm Bill, re-passed by Congress to correct a clerical error in HR 2419.[31] Overridden by House, 317-109 (284 votes required). Overridden by Senate, 80-14 (63 votes needed). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-246 over the President's veto. 12. July 15, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 6331, Medicare Improvements for Patients and Providers Act.[32] Overridden by House, 383-41 (283 votes required.) Overridden by Senate, 70-26 (64 votes required). Enacted as Pub.L. 110-275 over the President's veto. So to break down your usual nonsense: ...two of the 4 Bush overrides were a farm bill (and the second was merely merely to fix a clerical error). Yes, these 2 were connected, your hero wanted to nix aid to farms and many other provisions: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR02419:@@@D&summ2=m& ...One was a water bill,... http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-110publ114/html/PLAW-110publ114.htm Yep, what a bad idea, water resource: To provide for the conservation and development of water and related resources, to authorize the Secretary of the Army to construct various projects for improvements to rivers and harbors of the United States, and for other purposes. ...another was for Medicare.... http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:HR06331:@@@D&summ2=m& Yea, another bad idea; "Medicare Improvements for Patients and Providers Act of 2008 - Title I: Medicare - Subtitle A: Beneficiary Improvements - Part 1: Prevention, Mental Health, and Marketing - (Sec. 101) Amends title XVIII (Medicare) of the Social Security Act (SSA), as amended by the Medicare, Medicaid, and SCHIP Extension Act of 2007, to cover additional preventive services." I mean, don't we have some ME country or some military contractor to give this to? TRANSLATION: Water resource, farm aid, and aid to seniors is a joke, there is no need to subsidize these, we have all kinds of military necessity out there and then we could further pad teh pockets of the rich. Obviously you didn't read my post (big surprise). This was during the years where your heroes were in office, genius. You want to blame the Dems for the dealings of the R's, as usual. The first veto was before Pelosi/Reid, override failed. They were short 51 votes, the Dems likely figured why run this again, override will fail. Altho it wasn't overriden, the Dems did try and fell only 13 votes short; too bad the maggoted Republicans didn't care more about kids. So the Dems try to override your heroes striking it down and fell just short. Of course, to your dismay, the Dems passed ti when they got more humans back in congress: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Children's_Health_Insurance_Program You just can't help but to step it time and time again. 2009 reauthorization In the wake of President Barack Obama's inauguration and the Democrats' increased majorities in both houses of Congress, legislative leaders moved quickly to break the political stalemate over SCHIP expansion. On January 14, 2009, the House passed H.R. 2 on a vote of 290-138. The bill authorized spending an added $32.8 billion to expand the health coverage program to include about 4 million more children, including coverage of legal immigrants[42] with no waiting period for the first time. A cigarette tax increase of 62 cents—bringing the total tax on a pack of cigarettes to $1.01—an increase of tax on chewing tobacco from $0.195/lb. to $0.50/lb.—as well as tax increases on other tobacco products[43] will fund the program's expansion. On January 29, the Senate passed the house bill by a 66-32 margin, with two amendments.[44] The House accepted the amended version on a vote of 290 to 135,[42] and President Obama signed the bill into law as Pub.L. 111-3 on February 4, 2009.[45] Wow, that took 2 weeks after the humans took control of the government; sociopathy is in danger. Let's look at the attempted overrides that failed after the Dems had the House and tied the senate: 2. May 1, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 1591, U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007. Override attempt failed in House, 222-203 (284 needed). A later version of the bill that excluded certain aspects of the initial legislation that the President disapproved of... H.R. 2206, was enacted as Pub.L. 110-28 with the President's approval. 4. October 3, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 976, Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 ("SCHIP"). Override attempt failed in House, 273-156 (286 votes needed). 6. November 13, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 3043, Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act of 2008. Override attempt failed in House, 277-141 (279 votes needed). 7. December 12, 2007: Vetoed H.R. 3963, Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007.[25] Override attempt failed in House, 260-152 (275 votes needed). 9. March 8, 2008: Vetoed H.R. 2082, Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008.[27][28] Override attempt failed in House, 225-188. OK, so it's the Dems fault that these bills were passed by congress, vetoed by your hero and the attempt to override failed withteh Dems small lead in teh House and tie in the senate? Brilliance. They tried to override the 6th worst president of all time for worthy bills, and the rest of the garbage Republicans blocked it and you want to blame the D's with their tiny House lead and tie in the senate. Again, you continue to step in it. You're hysterical. Ypu've just made my argument. POINT IS: IT IS NOT A GOOD THING WHEN PRESIDENTS FAIL TO VETO, IT MEANS THE CHECK/BALANCE THINGY ISN'T WORKING, YET YOU WANT TO CELEBRATE THE OTHER GARBAGE PRESIDENT JUST SAT THERE TWIDDLING HIS THUMBS. Kinda supports my argument that fascist ronnie was incompetent early on, whereas GWB was incompetent from day 1. I don't care which president has which session of congress on his side or against; you're surely showing strict partisanship. Regardless of the party alighment or not, it is not a good thing when there are no vetoes by teh president, the congress is then running the government with a rubber stamp from the president; DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

It is my business, I can observe and make comparisons to the hammering they did to the economy since Reagan. I notice at least you don't deny that what I write is correct: Repubs don't handle money well.

Is the translation, "And why should Bush do what they want?" If so, because the Repub congress and Bush trashed the country in the first 6 years. But that wasn't the original assertion, it was that the Pelosi/Reid duo couldn't make Bush do anything. It's right there, are you unable to read? Here, I'll post it in bold letters and underlined: Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything. Is the, "he" Bush? Well, with overrides of 11 vetoes, that's like the 2nd or 3rd highest veto rate ever. That doesn't really support your point well. Simple: ORIGINAL ASSERTION: Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything. MY RESPONSE: George W. Bush 11(vetoes) 1(pocket veto) 12(total vetoes) 4(overrides) 33%(override ratio) I believe only 1 of these vetoes occurred under the first 6 years, so the Dem-controlled House and tied senate, 49-49-2, did quite a bit with the limited power they had. Try again. CONCLUSION: If Reid / Pelosi didn't make Bush do anything, then how is it that with limited votes, a House majority and tied senate, did the Dems muster 4 veto overrides in a climate that produced only 1 veto in 6 years? Here comes teh strawman, this isn't the issue here - you have just brought this in. BTW, how does the public support affect bills and agendas? The public spoke Nov 08, so yes, they are behind him. As for get nothing done, are you forgetting the stimulus that has brought all economic indicators around? HC isn't dead and the jobs bill is going thru. I think 17 Dems are up in the Senate, maybe 1 or 2 less. All other Dems are not up this year. To think that the House members are all running scared is ridiculous, look at the House version of the HC Bill with public option: NEWS FLASH - IT PASSED. I said some of the worst, but I have never expected you to quote me honestly; why start now. We have the GD, the Civil War, 911...oh wait, that ws during your guys time; never mind . The years of 01 to 09 were some of teh worst, I'm sorry simple data and just looking around doesn't work for you. It was a bad one. Obama inherited an 8% unemp rate that was in freefall; it grew 3.5% the previous year alone. The GDP had negative growth 4 of the 5 previous quarters. The market fell from a high of 14k to 7500 as Obama took office. So yes, 2009 was bad, but look at what what preceeded the year and look where were at now.

Gee, didn't I say it was their money? I wrote: At least it's their own money, they usually trash the US economy. Perhaps 1 sentence was too much for you. Just my illustration that as they trash the US economy, they also trash their own, so at least they have consistency.

More evidence that you are unaware of the congressional relationship between GWB and congress 2001 to 2007 VERSUS GWB and the congress from 2007 to 2009. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes George W. Bush 11(vetoes) 1(pocket veto) 12(total vetoes) 4(overrides) 33%(override ratio) I believe only 1 of these vetoes occurred under the first 6 years, so the Dem-controlled House and tied senate, 49-49-2, did quite a bit with the limited power they had. Try again. He did not use it enough in my opinion. During the early or later years What made you think that; some of teh worst years America has suffered were at that time? It's probably unprecedented to have a president not veto anything for 5.5 years. Just think, if GWB would have not been elected in 2004, he would be one of the few presidents to never veto 1 thing; this should have been a clue to voters that GWB was incompetent. But anyway, the original point was Even when Pelosi assumed Speaker role and Reid became Senator Majority Leader in 2007, they still couldn't make Bush do anything. I have illustrated that this is patently wrong.

Nah, that would be stall tapping get your terms right.... I've had to work a couple of those details, ain't fun regardless of political affiliation........... Oh, are you in Minnesota? Work the airport do you? Ugly job

More evidence that you are unaware of the congressional relationship between GWB and congress 2001 to 2007 VERSUS GWB and teh congress from 2007 to 2009. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes George W. Bush 11(vetoes) 1(pocket veto) 12(total vetoes) 4(overrides) 33%(override ratio) I believe only 1 of these vetoes occurred under the first 6 years, so the Dem-controlled House and tied senate, 49-49-2, did quite a bit with the limited power they had. Try again.

Try living here. Idiots galore, all the McSame/Palin stickers on cars. You just have to read about it, I have to live with it. At least it's not as bad as Texas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y