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Everyone running like cowards from the question: WHAT IF HILLARY WINS THE PRIMARY, WILL YOU ACTUALLY BRING YOURSELF TO VOTING FOR THE gaRbage?

HUH? Those little X / O's are what brings us to war, gets us out, raises taxes, gives the rich breaks, gives the poor help, etc..... You just personally don't like her rather than judging what kind of politician she is. I'veplayed basketball with Simeon Rice and Bibby, I don't have a high opinion of these guys, yet they are great ball players in their sports. Perhaps some merit to AK's statement.

>>>>>>>>>>Voting record...couldn't care less. That's why this country is such a sad mess

It was a joke. Jeez. Fuckin women. No wonder I'll never get married again. LOL. Plus I get to spend all my money on MYSELF. You're obviously taking my off-handed comments far too seriously. So fuck you again...lol. I'm just trying to get a warning...or banned...or stroked or something...lol. Edited to add: I'm kinda having fun spending all of my money on myself too. Ain't life grand. :) But I'm thinking of inviting a boy over. Oooooh. That might mean letting him have use of my sauna for free . But since he makes even more money than me, maybe I can get a little nookie on the sly.....heh. Laugh, dude, it ain't all that serious of a problem. Grubbin' on the livin' room floor is where it's at. LOL. Na. I just run to Mexico and rent a cheap young hooker and play in the sand. Them Mexicans are good for something LBFM

It was a joke. Jeez. Fuckin women. No wonder I'll never get married again. LOL. Plus I get to spend all my money on MYSELF. You're obviously taking my off-handed comments far too seriously. So fuck you again...lol. I'm just trying to get a warning...or banned...or stroked or something...lol. Edited to add: I'm kinda having fun spending all of my money on myself too. Ain't life grand. :) But I'm thinking of inviting a boy over. Oooooh. That might mean letting him have use of my sauna for free . But since he makes even more money than me, maybe I can get a little nookie on the sly.....heh. Laugh, dude, it ain't all that serious of a problem. Grubbin' on the livin' room floor is where it's at. This post is startin give me wood ....think of it, a Hillary thread giving me wood puls out gun, shoots self in head.

Ye, I just really hae that. I say we examine her voting record and other performance rather than the creep factor. Bill Gates is waaaaay more creepy, so would you fire him from the IT dept for that? Is Hillary qualified? Of course. Not to pick on you, but isn't this why we have 2 terms of Bush, Gore ws too stiff and Kerry to much like Herman Munster? You gotta be shittin me, who the fuck cares what they look like? The rest of the world laughs at us Clinton is impeached for lying about a BJ, while Libby has his sentence commuted for the lying about revealing the name of a fed agent and it is discovered that Trent Lott, the guy calling for CLinton's head for BJ-gate was fucking his secretary at the time...... and then the US Dollar dies and they all applaude.... Note to self: Vote for candidates based upon how they might work in office, nit what they look like, sound like, etc.

Cause she's a woman and they tend to run their mouth too much? Now there's something we can all agree upon

You don't have to defend shit to me, I'm just curious if you will vote in the criiminal element once again if Hillary wins the Dem primary? Will you abstain? Just curious.

>>>>>>>>>>If by "fine line" you mean views on the first, fourth, fifth, sixth, eighth, ninth and tenth amendments to the Constitution, yeah, then it's a fine line. Oh, also include views of the commerce clause in there, as well. Including views on religion, drug use, war, taxes, etc. Oh, but since I agree with the Republicans on, what, a quarter of the issues, it's a fine line. Clearly, if you aren't bigoted against Republicans just because they are Republicans, you are a "dog" like them. How about fine line when it comes to fiscal matters. Libertarians are fiscally beyond right, liberally beyond left. However if they have to decide which toside with, isn't it obvious they go right, as in fiscal matters are more important than matters of liberty. Isn't that obvious? Can you point out a Libertarian candidate who defected to the Dems? >>>>>>>>>>>Actually, it seems that two of the last seven republican presidential candidates were "losers" (even though GHWB actually won one). Those 5 of 7 you listed, um, WON. HUH? OK, I wrote that 5 of the last 7 pesidential terms, not pesidents. I wasn't talking electoral votes, I was talking the terms, a 4-year term was a loser for the American people. Again, 5 of the last 7 presidential terms, Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush. As in Clinton served 2 terms, FDR was the only 4-term president, even tho he died before he could finish the last. It appears you are skewing this to be as if I wrote presidential candidates, which I did not. I will repost whet I wrote: So we've had 5 of the last 7 presidential terms from the Repubs, 7 of the 9 SCOTUS justices are from these 5 losers >>>>>>>>>>>In your world, "winning" is "losing," "libertarian" is "republican" and "democrat" is "jesus" secular deity. There goes the form atorney, skewing what I wrote, rather blatantly revising it to include, "candidate." Can't you leave work at work? And to bring in religion as in the democrats are the secular deity; doesn't that contradict your advertised Libertarian ideals, or further move you into the Republican Party for which you are 98% anyway?

Why not just come out and show us your Ron Paul, Libertarian, er uh, Republican tattoo? >>>>>>>>>>>>My biggest concern for our nation is to limit the power of the government. Federalism is what led to the Emancipation Proclamation as well as many other great events. It was illegal for white females to mary non-white males until 1968 in 16 states and you want to claim federal intrusion is bad? I'm guessing I'm writing to someone very young with little education.

>>>>>>>>>She voted against HR 2206, which raised the federal minimum wage to to $5.85 per hour on the 60th day after the enactment of HR 2206, $6.55 per hour 12 months after that 60th day, and $7.25 per hour 24 months after that 60th. Thanks for citing your sources, oh wait, I'll look it up. Damn Republicans never cite. For starters, this was sponsored by Rep Obey, David R. [WI-7], so it is a Republican bill. http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.02206: There are 7 versions of Bill Number H.R.2206 for the 110th Congress 1 . U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007 (Introduced in House)[H.R.2206.IH] 2 . Making emergency supplemental appropriations and additional supplemental appropriations for agricultural and other emergency assistance for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2007,... (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.2206.EH] 3 . Making emergency supplemental appropriations and additional supplemental appropriations for agricultural and other emergency assistance for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2007,... (Placed on Calendar in Senate)[H.R.2206.PCS] 4 . Resolved, That the bill from the House of Representatives (H.R. 2206) entitled `An Act making emergency supplemental appropriations and additional supplemental appropriations for... (Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to by Senate)[H.R.2206.EAS] 5 . Making emergency supplemental appropriations and additional supplemental appropriations for agricultural and other emergency assistance for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2007,... (Public Print)[H.R.2206.PP] 6 . U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)[H.R.2206.ENR] 7 . U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007 (Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to by House)[H.R.2206.EAH] http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.2206: There are seven versions and this bill isn't cut and dried, it is very piggybacked. As for emergency supplemental, was she talking about the agricultural Emer Supp? Making emergency supplemental appropriations and additional supplemental appropriations for agricultural and other emergency assistance for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2007,... (Public Print) http://www.thomas.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:5:./temp/~c110OF7dYj:: Your claim is vague and w/o citation, so let's examine this more. Perhaps if you posted that it would clear things up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Republicans, by the way, voted for it, Oh, in the House, RON PAUL voted against it. How does that make you feel knowing that Ron Paul and Hillary Clinton both voted the same on this? Oh, yeah - Obama also voted against it. It sounds as of there was a lot of fat, so Paul voted it down and so did Hillary, so that kinda kills your point that Hillary did something against the poor. Hell, Bill voted in one min wage increase even tho it was loaded with goodies for the rich, then refused the last one becuase it was too loaded, but sais if the Nazi-controlled congress would send it alone he would gladly sign it. Your point is vague, w/o reference, and fails to address all the goodies with the HR; color me shocked. So let's examine this more, post your reference. >>>>>>>>>>So there is a coalition of voters between Paul, Obama and Clinton on this. How about that. Is Ron Paul a better guy than you thought or are Clinton and Obama despicable "dogs?" It sounds as if it was loaded with fat for the rich, so Hillary and Obama voted against, Paul, Dr. No, votes against most money bills, So basically, a very weak attempt on your part, but let's examine this further after your citations.

It must really suck to have to rely on other people to take care of you. Try Tony Robbins or something. I work many hours right now, but my field is shaky and am out of work at times, sometimes long times. WHat I'm talking about is the garbage on the right interfering with union negotiations, trying to exonerate telecom companies for their part in spying via disclosing cell records w/o warrants and teh like. Let's see, how about Enron and the airlines retirement; are ou still gonna continue pretending that is socialism to want your pension? Must really suck to be so blind.

OK, I've been holding back until now....but..

I totally agree with this, but what if she wins the Dem primary and which ever Republican loser gets the nod from that side, who do you vote for? You knwo what to expect from the garbage on the right, so what do you do? My mom, a feminist, even doesn't want Hillay for that reason, but what do you do if she wins the primary? I can't see not doing all I can do to get the criminal element out of the WH.

>>>>>>>>>>>No. I'll vote for who I think is the most qualified person I can that will ultimately be the least detrimental to the country. That may be an independent or may, in fact, be a Republican. I do have one on that side that I believe would actually be a reasonable alternative if he gets the nomination. So we've had 5 of the last 7 presidential terms from the Repubs, 7 of the 9 SCOTUS justices are from these 5 losers, the debt went from 1T to 9.1T, we’ve lost all kinds of Constitutional rights and you would consider another ride from the party of runaway spending and war mongering? I thought you loved this country, I didn't know, sorry. >>>>>>>>>>>>>I'm sorry, but I can't decipher all that you've just written. I'm unsure what is not obvious. I'll break it down: Republicans like Ron Paul supporters, shall we call them closet Repubs, = Ron Paul supports claim to not be Republicans, yet their candidate is registered as a Repub and swears he won’t cross over to Indep if he, when he loses the primary. There is a fine line between Repubs and Libertarians, yet the latter won’t admit that. should reg Dem and vote in Obama in the primaries, = Register as s Democrat as the racist yellow dogs = The Yellow Dog Democrats were the Southern gentlemen who hated big city slickers, yet hated blacks worse. This was discovered in the 60’s when LBJ signed legislation to help minorities, as did other Dems further these agendas, so these guys swore off the Dems, voted Repub and we’ve only had 2 Dems since then, both from the south. Point is, would the Yellow Dogs, a less influential group, yet still substantial, vote is a black man? I think the scumbag Repugs will get the general election nod if Obama were to win the Democratic primary. would go Nazi (Reoub) = Meant to be, Repub, but Nazi is another way of saying, the Republican Party. in the general if he wins the primary. General is the general election, as in the presidential November 08 election. So, to summarize, point is that if I were a Republican and wanted to make the debt hit 20T within 2 more terms, continue trashing the US Constitution, I would want Obama to get the Dem nod, so the Republican nominee would be a lock in the November 08 general election.

And then you find yourself compelled, just can't help yourself to dive right in to that so-called diarrhea...... ore of a sefl-indictment from you, on you than anything else...... just slither away and thanks for your contribution to the Hillary thread.... in case you forgot the thread title.

That's a great question. I don't think I've heard of her doing a single thing of substance in the Senate. Just running for reelection and for President. Part of that is the distance - California doesn't care too much about NY state politics, but still I'd expect to hear something - legislation authored, stands taken. RIGHT!!!! You've never heard of..... EXACTLY. You know, let me introduce you to Google; type in, :Clinton senatorial voting record" and I'm willing to bet you would find a list of issues she';s voted on. This is Republican backer, Lawrocket's thread, perhaps bewteen him, the lawyer wanna-be and you, you can find her record and make some kind of flimsy argument. Again, THIS IS YOUR ARGUMENT, MAKE YOUR ASSERTIONS. Or you can do as any good Republican (oxymoron) would do and just watch Fox to get all your Hillary info.

Have you eer thought of taking some substantive writing courses? You should...... So should you after that incomprehensible chop and reply to Lawrocket. It's possible to write a rebuttle that isn't line by line. And here comes the mob mentaility. Perhaps, wait, OBVIOUSLY you have never done any legal writing where you address enumerated claims. There I go again, wasting keystrokes to those unable to relate.

Does that course include proof reading, spellchecking, and proper punctuation? I've composed my posts in word and/or gone over and meticulously checked them for grammatical errors and I still get the same nothing from you guys, so why waste time? I see plenty of posts with minor errors, some actually have substance, and then there are yours. Don't addess this point, as you won't anyway, but you are so out of gas as to give examples as to why H Clinton would make a bad pres that you are relegated to complaining about gramatical errors. For your info, substantive writing is writing about substance, not superficial nothing, like you.

And you think we are forever married to fuck-the -poor capitalism? Think of the time when your boy Hoover fucked the poor, he was slammed by virtually everyone and we got a pres that started to bring a shade of socialism and had 6 terms of dems. I think we're back to that as people are sick of corp love at the expense of the health of the people. Socialized meds are near, so sorry. >>>>>>>>>>>>I never want to hear a State of the Union address in that screechy, know it all voice. And I never wanted to hear that 50IQ redneck, but I lived thru it, now it's your turn to suffer Mwahahhahah

>>>>>>>>>Oh shit, I should have real all of your post first Assuming you can read, of course......

Have you eer thought of taking some substantive writing courses? You should......

Pretty tough talk for someone who just got a job as a grants specialist for the mayor. Sickeningly the image of Larry Craig sitting in a shitter stall, tapping the foot of the guy next to him thinking, "dirty faggots" flashes into my head. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, make it stop, mommy.

I work in homeland security grants. I think that the security of the nation is one of the few areas that the federal government should be involved in. I'm not saying it's not completely screwed up. It is. I just don't think there's anyone else other than the federal government that would be appropriate to take on the role of managing national security. Nightingale says: Big gov is bad, except for payday