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Totally agree, and with her hard right evangelical stance, it was a big fuck up - no way he would have chosen her if he knew,.... Why do you think that? McCain is against a woman's right to control her own body, against funding sex education, and when asked if he thought condoms helped prevent the spread of AIDS, he replied "You've stumped me". Palin: The AK gubernatorial candidates were pressed on their stances on abortion and were even asked what they would do if their own daughters were raped and became pregnant. Palin said she would support abortion only if the mother's life was in danger. She said, "I would choose life." (November 2006). Translated, the only choice Palin supports is a rapist's right to choose the mother of his child. Birds of a feather, IMO. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Translated, the only choice Palin supports is a rapist's right to choose the mother of his child. So how is visitation established then? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Why do you think that? McCain is against a woman's right to control her own body, against funding sex education, and when asked if he thought condoms helped prevent the spread of AIDS, he replied "You've stumped me". I'm just saying that this selection was a fuck up, if they did their homework they should have known. Gov Palin had to know, but didn't think she would be selected as VP runner, so when asked she immediatley accepted, then had to break it to them.

So the sperm are not alive before they get to the egg??? I realize that every sperm is sacred.. so all you guys do not respect life... all those billions of poor sperms...... in sheets.. on walls.....on the ground... The PH of a vagina is slightly acidic to kill bacteria, which inadvertently kills millions sperm, prohibiting pregnancy..... so you female types have a human killing machine right before your human birthing machine

How many of them smarty-pants college boys have a double-wide? I didn't think so....... point in case (intentional reversal)

His posts are like that roadside fatality that you consciously don't want to look at, but can't help yourself.

Yes I admit it.. we are all the same......educated. I will admit it you all can spell and know grammer pretty good, now if only books could make you smart you all would be in luck Yea really, book learnin is waaaaaaaaaaaay overrated.

You obviously didn't read or chose to ignore my reply to Shotgun just above your post. If you're going to jump into a conversation and make comments, it's best if you educate yourself as to what is happening in the conversation. To bring you up to speed, I am asking for an explanation as to what the difference is between pro-choice and pro-abortion. Apparently Gawain is asking also. I don't use drugs, think they're pathetic, but I am for the legalization of them. Sounds contradictory? It's not. I think drugs degrade people, but that illegalizing them creates crime, just as with alcohol prohibition, so I wish the gov would make all drugs legal even tho I hate them. Understand? I know in church they teach this black/white nonsense, but that is such finite thinking I feel bad for those subject to it.

Saying pro-choce = pro-abortion puts you in the category of a religious zealot.

OMG you dont think about things to much do you Kallend? Some very small % of pro-lifers want to kill docs. but your ignorant statement is sooooo far out there ok Amazon??? You know i heard Manson liked water and im sure you do to , does that make you crazy?? Never mind dont answer the last question i think i know the answer I didnt realize you could be like wack job left....... I want my 15 seconds back.

Ridiculous. I'm anti-abortion, but pro-choice. I think abortions indicate a gross amount of irresponsibility, other than abortions to save the mother's life. But the key is, do we legislate the right to have an abortion or legislate the prohibition of same?

>>>>>>>>>>>Sarah Palin might have had three additional kids and sacrificed them all to a pagan god. So why bring Bush into the mix?

negative- Nerdgirl=Answer Billvon=Answer Kallend=Unsupported statement, not answer. Ok my Devil's Advocate pot stirring in done-back to your regularly scheduled disagreements Thx for stopping by

Wow.. a whole new spin on Clinton Did it First.... Even if there wasn't even rumor of it, let alone evidence of it. Amazon, it's called shrilling desperation, they know the outcome of November, they're just in denial.

And how would you know if this happened with Chelsea Clinton? The Clintons are all for abortion. Perhaps it did happen and they made their problem go away. The Palin's are dealing with this, despite what the lefty nutjobs who want to destroy them think. They're dealing with this the courageous way and proving to America that when Sarah Palin says she does not believe abortion is OK, she means it. Shows character to me. Something to think about before anyone here takes the moral high ground on this issue. If you have had sexual intercourse as a teenager or while unmarried (whether it resulted in a pregnancy or not) you are no better or worse than Bristol Palin and her boyfriend. I suggest you drop your stones because many of you are looking really foolish right now. As for abstinence teaching, biologically speaking, practicing abstinence prevents pregnancies and STD's 100% of the time. Regarding Tim Palin's DWI 24 years ago is laughable that anyone here would judge that since this very site promotes and glorifies alcohol use constantly. Once again, drop your stones. Still looking extremely foolish. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>And how would you know if this happened with Chelsea Clinton? The Clintons are all for abortion. Perhaps it did happen and they made their problem go away. So you're basing your argument on the hypothetical presumption that Chelsea Clinton was also pregnant? Sweet, have a nice day

I disagree. It's only terrible for the GOP if they choose to make a stink about it themselves, and I don't think they will. Pregnant teenage daughters happen to parents all across the political spectrum. I see no reason why this would be a problem, it only humanizes the ticket. Lord knows, we've had enough President's kids smoking pot, boozing it up with fake ID's and heaven only knows what else. Reagan's daughter was a complete hellion, fucking every rock star she could wrap her legs around and it never really damaged him. The mother covering for the daughter should be easy enough to disprove. I think it's a disgusting rumor to start, regardless of politics. The only part I have any problem with is the decision to marry. I do know a couple or two who married that young and are still together after thirty years, but they're the rare exception. But I suppose that's their business. Anyway, I'm voting for Obama just the same. That's right, and homosexuality happens everywhere too, but when the hateful rightwing homopho0be Larry Craig is trolling for cock in a Minn airport bathroom, it IS way differnt than if Clinton did it. Don;t like the double standard? Sorry, tough. Clinton pushed for don't ask policies, he is advocating the right to be gay versus the Nazi Craig who was adamantly against it. Double standard? Yes. Justified? Most definately.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From what I've seen, I don't like Mummy Palin's extremist politics, but using the kid is just plain wrong IMHO And who's using the kids? The liberal sector of the media? Surely not Obama.

Non answer-try again. Because sex education in schools has been so effective in reducing teen pregnancies and incidents of STD's? The ability to effectively debate does not make a position valid. All you can do is to educate and monitor, suppression of intelligence, education is purely pathetic, AKA the Republican Party.

Sorry no, that is not what I meant. (sorry if my post was confusing) I do think though that because of his age he will only run one time. That sets her up to be the next Rep. canidate. Her conservative views will make her very popular. So, the left is taking her on now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I do think though that because of his age he will only run one time. Which makes the Repub primary voters extra sharp for nominating him. Face it, the whole thing is falling in for you.

As I learn more about Palin I am coming to understand the vitriolic attacks. Why? This woman has a great chance of becoming the first female US Pres. Since she is not a Dem, they have to try and destroy her now.. Simple if you look at it in that perspective. No, she's destroying herself, we're just watching..... want some popcorn?

Follow me here: 1. The right is huge on parenting, personal responsibility 2. Palin esp is evngelical and denounces premarital teen sex 3. Bristol has come up pregnant, defying all of the values of her family, hence the party

Actually no, the Chelsea Clinton example is not workable here, since the dems don't demonize teen sex, unwed mothers, etc. To make a fair comparison it would be like Chelsea being discovered to have a Nazi armband and membership to the Arian Brotherhood, that would = the same hypocrisy as this situation.

The real beauty is how Obama handled it, when asked, he said that it was off limits; it's family, not politics. That was so golden in an era where many would pounce on teh opportunity. The guy is class.

Totally agree, and with her hard right evangelical stance, it was a big fuck up - no way he would have chosen her if he knew, but the whoe party will play it off and spin it at the Dems by asking what the big deal is, they support underage unwed mothers, and now the whitchhunt? This is the equivalent of Larry Craig toe tapping his way to cock; it's their platform / agenda / morality that they preach then violate. The R's will use it as a platform to show how anti-abortion they are, saying they could have goven her a secret abortion, but instead decided to make it public.

They're Republicans Disclaimer: before anyone pipes in, I know it was the R's who freed the slaves, just that things have changed.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Perhaps not. BEcause I decry "spending." Whether "military" or "health care" or a "bridge to nowhere." Get it? I rarely pick and choose. I'm an equal opportunity decrier. Capice? No capice, you don't, or I haven't seen you drag into some big argument about military spending. Inferrence: you have no issue with it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And I don't look at my service as anything that makes me better or worse than anybody. I tend not to hold people's choices of profession against them. They have their reasons, and your reason for serving and mine may have been dramatically different. Or even the same. I needed a way to pay for college, and Uncle Sam did so. And he asked for 8 years in return. Nor do I, I was just explaining my term of service under fascist Ronnie. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Could have been. Much like 2000-2001 was CLinton's economic and foreign policy nightmare come to fruition. I'm not saying that's the case, but I'm an equal opportunity decrier. Oh please, elaborate. Oh, was 911 his fault, please don't be that desperate. Again, I was talking about your hero, fascist Ronnie and his economic meltdown. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>If logic is selective, it usually doesn't work. (Nerdgirl and billvon have earned enough respect from me that if they tell me I'm wrong, I'll usually just take their word for it.) Ok, a plug for Bill and Nerdgirl...I don;t get it; is this some kind of heirarchy pecking order? I let the evidence establish my correctness/incorrectness, not the person delivering it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I respect that view. But I also think that "if you have enough money" is like the wicked stepmother telling Cinderella, "If you get all of your work done you can go to the ball." No, your system is like that, essentially the US system. You can't get medical care, other than emergency which you have to eventually pay for unless you have money, so the current system, your system is exclsionary, just as Cinderellas stepmother. Now, more about fascist Ronnie and his legacy, the one that will be revealed as data is sought by even the ignorant when the dollar falls.

Isn't that more "libertarian"? I ask because out of that short list you cited, I'm curious as to what you agree with liberals, or democrats on? Exactly.