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Damn libs always trying to feed the poor and help the sick. Bastards!! -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Oh, the irony!!! Read your FIRST sentence dude. I vote for this as the definitive, succinct, and conclusive end of the argument. There is a difference between what someone chooses to give privately and what the government decides is a proper tax rate. Another example of a lib desiring the governemnt to do what individuals should do on their own. "It takes a village .... blah, bla, blah " I am not a 'lib', and I resent your labeling me as such. I am liberal on some issues, conservative on some, and center on others. Labels are mindless ways of dividing the country for votes. And much of the time, people don't "do it on their own," whatever the issue. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Oh, the irony!!! Read your FIRST sentence dude. I vote for this as the definitive, succinct, and conclusive end of the argument. There is a difference between what someone chooses to give privately and what the government decides is a proper tax rate. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Just drop the sarcasm and you are on the right track. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Give up a Big Mac dude, that would be enough to raise the standard of living for a family in third world countries. I grow weary of people who complain about world hunger but give NOTHING, not one dime to change anything. If a billionaire can give millions you can give the cost of a jump ticket. Oh, you don't jump regularly. How about giving up that 6 pack or super sizing the fries. I hate to hear "skydivers" complain about poverty. Go to the rain forrest village in Central America and you will see poverty. EVERYBODY can help, not just the billionaires. As long as we believe it is someone elses' responsibility we will never accomplish anything. /rant I said "Maybe" because what and how much I give is nobody's goddamned business but mine. And yes, everybody can help - but tax cuts for a bunch of whiny fucking millionaires is not the answer either. For every millionaire who gives tons of cash, there are 20 who hoarde every cent. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Maybe I'm poor, and can't afford to give. As to selfishness - nobody is more selfish than a millionaire whining for a bigger tax cut. NOBODY. All whiny millionaires should be hung from the rafters by their nutsack. As to support for politicians, I should have said "politicians and activist groups." -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

So, you're all for helping the 3rd world as long as it's the rich paying for it, then... Yes. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Supporting politicians who will help solve some of them - ie. raise taxes on the rich, work to stop exploitation of third world countries by the West, etc. Attempting to change minds and attitudes when possible. Anything else I chose to do is my business only. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Can you sign "Bart Simpson"? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Something is aquamarine. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

You need to be tied up with toothpicks holding your eyelids open like in a cartoon with the Al Gore movie paying over and over and over and over...... -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Are you talking about simple climate change, which I doubt anyone refutes, or anthropogenic global warming? I love it. You can call it whatever you want, but there is a scientific consensus that global warming is happening. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Holy shit - I thought I was just spouting BS, but it looks like I was right - at least sort of. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Where do you get the 99% figure? Do you really believe it to be true? It's probably more like 99.9%. I believe it to be true, and it is true. The overwhelming majority of scientists agree that global warming is taking place. Keep making up numbers! also, where do you get the "overwhelming majority.." from? Prove that the overwhelming majority of scientists don't believe that global warming is happening. I am not going to waste my time citing sources. You will simply call the source a crock of shit and go on believing the way you choose. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

In the wake of the firing of 8 US attorneys involved in politically sensitive investigations, and the uproar over FBI abuses of the Patriot Act. many are calling for Gonzales to go. Should he step down? (http://www.nytimes.com/) (http://www.nytimes.com/adx/bin/adx_click.html?type=goto&page=www.nyti... d=animate2_namesake88x31.gif&goto=http://www.foxsearchlight.com/thenamesake/) ____________________________________ March 12, 2007 Op-Ed Columnist Overblown Personnel Matters By _PAUL KRUGMAN_ (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnis...) Nobody is surprised to learn that the Justice Department was lying when it claimed that recently fired federal prosecutors were dismissed for poor performance. Nor is anyone surprised to learn that White House political operatives were pulling the strings. What is surprising is how fast the truth is emerging about what Alberto Gonzales, the attorney general, dismissed just five days ago as an “overblown personnel matter.” Sources told Newsweek that the list of prosecutors to be fired was drawn up by Mr. Gonzales’s chief of staff, “with input from the White House.” And Allen Weh, the chairman of the New Mexico Republican Party, told McClatchy News that he twice sought Karl Rove’s help — the first time via a liaison, the second time in person — in getting David Iglesias, the state’s U.S. attorney, fired for failing to indict Democrats. “He’s gone,” he claims Mr. Rove said. After that story hit the wires, Mr. Weh claimed that his conversation with Mr. Rove took place after the decision to fire Mr. Iglesias had already been taken. Even if that’s true, Mr. Rove should have told Mr. Weh that political interference in matters of justice is out of bounds; Mr. Weh’s account of what he said sounds instead like the swaggering of a two-bit thug. And the thuggishness seems to have gone beyond firing prosecutors who didn’t deliver the goods for the G.O.P. One of the fired prosecutors was — as he saw it — threatened with retaliation by a senior Justice Department official if he discussed his dismissal in public. Another was rejected for a federal judgeship after administration officials, including then-White House counsel Harriet Miers, informed him that he had “mishandled” the 2004 governor’s race in Washington, won by a Democrat, by failing to pursue vote-fraud charges. As I said, none of this is surprising. The Bush administration has been purging, politicizing and de-professionalizing federal agencies since the day it came to power. But in the past it was able to do its business with impunity; this time Democrats have subpoena power, and the old slime-and-defend strategy isn ’t working. You also have to wonder whether new signs that Mr. Gonzales and other administration officials are willing to cooperate with Congress reflect the verdict in the Libby trial. It probably comes as a shock to realize that even Republicans can face jail time for lying under oath. Still, a lot of loose ends have yet to be pulled. We now know exactly why Mr. Iglesias was fired, but still have to speculate about some of the other cases — in particular, that of Carol Lam, the U.S. attorney for Southern California. Ms. Lam had already successfully prosecuted Representative Randy Cunningham, a Republican. Just two days before leaving office she got a grand jury to indict Brent Wilkes, a defense contractor, and Kyle (Dusty) Foggo, the former third-ranking official at the C.I.A. (Mr. Foggo was brought in just after the 2004 election, when, reports said, the administration was trying to purge the C.I.A. of liberals.) And she was investigating Jerry Lewis, Republican of California, the former head of the House Appropriations Committee. Was Ms. Lam dumped to protect corrupt Republicans? The administration says no, a denial that, in light of past experience, is worth precisely nothing. But how do Congressional investigators plan to get to the bottom of this story? Another big loose end involves what U.S. attorneys who weren’t fired did to please their employers. As I pointed out last week, the numbers show that since the Bush administration came to power, federal prosecutors have investigated far more Democrats than Republicans. But the numbers can tell only part of the story. What we really need — and it will take a lot of legwork — is a portrait of the actual behavior of prosecutors across the country. Did they launch spurious investigations of Democrats, as I suggested last week may have happened in New Jersey? Did they slow-walk investigations of Republican scandals, like the phone-jamming case in New Hampshire? In other words, the truth about that “overblown personnel matter” has only begun to be told. The good news is that for the first time in six years, it’s possible to hope that all the facts about a Bush administration scandal will come out in Congressional hearings — or, if necessary, in the impeachment trial of Alberto Gonzales. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Where do you get the 99% figure? Do you really believe it to be true? It's probably more like 99.9%. I believe it to be true, and it is true. The overwhelming majority of scientists agree that global warming is taking place. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I was just pointing out that there is a difference between making unpopular claims and what some consider to be systematic murder. An argument can be made that the disservice the global warming deniers are doing mankind is equivalent to mass murder. The repercussions of ignoring global warming could POSSIBLY kill billions. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

So, you are OK with the abortion clinic bombings but not the global warming death threats? Nice. (both are equally stupid IMO) On a level of stupid that stands alone, your inference that I'm OK with abortion clinic bombings. DURRR. Well, you seemed to imply that the abortion clinics deserved it more since they "do a bit more than offer opinions." Why even say that if you don't somehow see them as more responsible for the repercussions of their actions? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

So, you are OK with the abortion clinic bombings but not the global warming death threats? Nice. (both are equally stupid IMO) -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

They get death threats from screwballs - the same type of people that bomb abortion clinics. They are shunned by scientists because 99% of scientist agree on global warming, and those who don't are morons. Hence, no funding for morons. Makes sense to me. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

You mean countries with some form of socailism (health care) can still produce billionaires???? Wow. I thought that with all of those handouts people would just sit around and collect welfare. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

I'm not whining. And if I am, I'll quit my whining when the millionaires quit whining about their taxes. There's nothing worse than a bunch of fucking whiny millionaires. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

Go shout "Work Hard!" to a starving baby in Africa and see how well it works. Brains account for a portion of wealth, but those with a higher jumping off point have an inherent advantage. Also, I don't want to get rich. I am perfectly comfortable and happy. Will I take a raise? Sure. But getting rich is not my ambition. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

i dont need to be drunk to do that.. i'd do all sorts of things being sober! i dont have her phone-nr.. only email.. but, i'll go for it right now! Remember - if there's no video, it didn't happen! -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

If the poor continue to get poorer remmeber one thing - a good supply of body bags. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.