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That's nonsense. You might not get the full picture but you'll certainly notice important information. Like the individual is a fat bastard for example. Still, not that I've any problem with people who are overweight. Very obese people, yes, because that's just taking the piss. Further to that, in America the poor people tend to be fatter than the less poor people. Essentially through only being able to afford crap food. And that's a damn shame. lol fair point. I'm not saying obese people have legitimate excuses. I'm just saying that if someone's first thought upon seeing another person is negative then perhaps that person might want to seek therapy. No. Here's an example why you're wrong; it concerns those Gangsta rapper type dickheads who wore giant clocks around their necks. My first thought on seeing such people was very negative, because I wanted to smash their clocks over their heads. And that's quite reasonable I believe. Therapy my arse! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Did they return your CD's to you yet? Hilarious! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

That's nonsense. You might not get the full picture but you'll certainly notice important information. Like the individual is a fat bastard for example. Still, not that I've any problem with people who are overweight. Very obese people, yes, because that's just taking the piss. Further to that, in America the poor people tend to be fatter than the less poor people. Essentially through only being able to afford crap food. And that's a damn shame. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Is it? I didn't see any dedicated Escape and Evasion sessions whilst living off the land, neither was anyone in the bag.

R to I can also be referred to as being 'in the bag'. "Resistance to Interrogation" 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

So the thousands of tonnes of pollutants we produce doesn't contribute? The deforestation of the rain forests doesn't contribute? Me, flying about, burning 300kgs of F34 an hour doesn't contribute? Why is this? Does the planet therefore benefit from these pollutants? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

PM! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Aye, it would. Anyway, are you going to send me the patent of yer WCI brake or what? I still doubt it'll fit!

Marc! FFS. Can you honestly, within your heart say; man doesn't have a contributing factor to play regarding global warming? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

It's pathetic! Ah, happiness would be viewing this dickhead trying to sell his wear in glasgow...

Christ; I'm almost tempted to resign and set up a survival school for the fuckers. I'd absolutely promise that in a 3 week period you'd lose at least a stone! It'd be simple! Put them on a basic E&E exercise. They don't have to starve. The first week could consist of basic survival; building shelters, obtaining water and simple foods from the land. Like Ray Mears - they'd fuckin' love it! The second week would be me chasing them across the area, it'd be like "SAS - are you hard enough!!?" With the third being in the bag, a simple RtoI session! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

"We'll bite yer nose off and swallow it" could top all three of your choices.

Doubt it - more likely he'll close into CQB to prevent damage, which will only allow me to bite his nose off. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

WTF? If he's over in the UK/Me stateside; can I kick his head in, and be done with his utterly sad and gay clothing range? Fuckin' clothes for utter losers or what? Advertised on the fuckin' DORKZONE! I might as well introduce my Vortexring clothing range. I'll bite yer nose off!

The US Treasury is running out of time before foreign patience snaps, writes Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Merrill Lynch has warned that the United States could face a foreign "financing crisis" within months as the full consequences of the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgage debacle spread through the world. Draining away: The US may struggle to plug its capital gap The country depends on Asian, Russian and Middle Eastern investors to fund much of its $700bn (£350bn) current account deficit, leaving it far more vulnerable to a collapse of confidence than Japan in the early 1990s after the Nikkei bubble burst. Britain and other Anglo-Saxon deficit states could face a similar retreat by foreign investors. "Japan was able to cut its interest rates to zero," said Alex Patelis, Merrill's head of international economics. "It would be very difficult for the US to do this. Foreigners will not be willing to supply the capital. Nobody knows where the limit lies." Brian Bethune, chief financial economist at Global Insight, said the US Treasury had two or three days to put real money behind its rescue plan for Fannie and Freddie or face a dangerous crisis that could spiral out of control. "This is not the time for policy-makers to underestimate, once again, the systemic risks to the financial system and the huge damage this would impose on the economy. Bold, aggressive action is needed, and needed now," he said. Mr Bethune said the Treasury would have to inject up $20bn in fresh capital. This in turn might draw in a further $20bn in private money. Funds on this scale would be enough to see the two agencies through any scenario short of a meltdown in the US prime property market. More by Ambrose Evans Pritchard European recession looms He said concerns about "moral hazard" - stoked by hard-line free-marketeers at the White House and vocal parts of the US media - were holding up a solution. "We can't dither. The markets can be brutal. We have to break the chain of contagion before confidence is destroyed." Fannie and Freddie - the world's two biggest financial institutions - make up almost half the $12 trillion US mortgage industry. But that understates their vital importance at this juncture. They are now serving as lender of last resort to the housing market, providing 80pc of all new home loans. Roughly $1.5 trillion of Fannie and Freddie AAA-rated debt - as well as other US "government-sponsored enterprises" - is now in foreign hands. The great unknown is whether foreign patience will snap as losses mount and the dollar slides. Hiroshi Watanabe, Japan's chief regulator, rattled the markets yesterday when he urged Japanese banks and life insurance companies to treat US agency debt with caution. The two sets of institutions hold an estimated $56bn of these bonds. Mitsubishi UFJ holds $3bn. Nippon Life has $2.5bn. The credit crisis explained in black and white British banks are still bleeding But the lion's share is held by the central banks of China, Russia and petro-powers. These countries could all too easily precipitate a run on the dollar in the current climate and bring the United States to its knees, should they decide that it is in their strategic interest to do so. Mr Patelis said it was unlikely that any would want to trigger a fire-sale by dumping their holdings on the market. Instead, they will probably accumulate US and Anglo-Saxon debt at a slower rate. That alone will be enough to leave deficit countries struggling to plug the capital gap. "I don't see how the current situation can continue beyond six months," he said. Merrill Lynch said foreign governments had added $241bn of US agency debt over the past year alone as their foreign reserves exploded, accounting for a third of total financing for the US current account deficit. (They now own $985bn in all.) By most estimates, China holds around $400bn, Russia $150bn and Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states at least $200bn. Global inflation is now intruding with a vengeance as well. Much of Asia is having to raise rates aggressively, drawing capital away from North America. This may push up yields on US Treasuries and bonds, tightening the credit screw at a time when the US is already mired in slump. Russia's deputy finance minister, Dmitry Pankin, said the collapse in the share prices of Fannie and Freddie over the past week was irrelevant because their debt has been effectively guaranteed by the US government under the rescue package. "We don't see a reason to change anything because the rating of the debt of those agencies hasn't changed," he said. Foreign policy experts doubt that the picture is so simple. Russia is likely to use its $530bn reserves as an implicit bargaining chip in high-stakes diplomacy, perhaps to discourage the US from extending Nato membership to the Ukraine and Georgia. Vladimir Putin, now Russia's premier, has stated repeatedly that his country is engaged in a new Cold War with the United States. It is clear that Moscow would relish any chance to humiliate the United States, provided the costs of doing so were not too high for Russia itself. China is regarded as a more reliable partner, with a greater desire for global stability. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson has intimate relations with the Chinese elite, dating from his days at Goldman Sachs when he visited the country over 70 times. Brad Setser, from the US Council on Foreign Relations, said the Chinese have a stake in upholding Fannie and Freddie, not least to ensure that their loans are "honoured on time and in full". David Bloom, currency chief at HSBC, said fears that regional banks could start toppling after the Fed takeover of IndyMac last week were now the biggest threat to the dollar. "We have a pure dollar sell-off," he said. "It's a hating competition: at the moment the markets hate the dollar more than they hate the euro, even though German's ZEW confidence indicator was absolutely atrocious." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/07/16/ccusdebt116.xml&CMP=ILC-mostviewedbox#comments Fascinating! Having oil priced in Dollars provides a simple solution, it always has. Have a feeling the winds will changing shortly. Who wants to be downwind with a single engine failure, high Density Altitude and frickin' high temperatures?

Blimey. I missed his solutions to the problem. Other than we no longer provide aid, let millions die, so as to prevent them from 'coming here', amongst other reasons. Have to say I disagree old bean! Still, interesting nonetheless. What do you think of this: "Different men seek after happiness in different ways and by different means, and so make for themselves different modes of life and forms of government." Aristotle 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

It's more than the youth that's at fault, especially if you consider Ancient Greek Philosophers were complaining about pretty much the same thing. http://cgi.stanford.edu/group/wais/cgi-bin/index.php?p=10781 It's the society where the real blame lies. And that must therefore include you!

Continue with your realisation that they aren't actually choices at all and then grow old and bitter at a world that benefits a select few Are you old and bitter? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I think I recognise your point, but omgwtf; Gore's cashing in!? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

What do you find so remarkable in the book's thesis? VR/Marg The cashing in from the chaos. The exploitation of the chaos. The erasure and remaking. Who said: "We shall squeeze you empty, then fill you with ourselves."? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

How can you say it's crap without having read it? How can you even shelve it into a particular type without having read it? How can I debate with you over this subject? I'm only bringing to peoples attention a book I find interesting - and the fact that a significant amount of people find it interesting too. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

Ok, but will you promise to just send the book? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

How can it then, if he's said nutball stuff? Surely that makes his opinion unreliable? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

I never said it's neat. The points I made from the book reviews gave a broadbrush point. What's your point with my point? More to the point; what is your point with my point? Have you read the material? Or have you just read my point and decided to be an argumentative f........ucker.

Whatever his political leanings, one persons opinion on a book, whatever it may be, shouldn't therefore make the book unreadable, or have reason in itself to not read the material. That's quite a remarkable stance to take mate. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'