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TK, have you polled most scientists? doubtful. instead, it's sometimes hard for the many of them who have serious misgivings about darwinism to find a voice b/c of the stranglehold that the anti-ID/atheistic community has had in the scientific community. Did you watch the 17-part PBS series Evolution? In that series, spokespersons asserted that "all scientific evidence supports [Darwinian] evolution" as does "virtually every reputable scientist in the world." What you may NOT have seen is the dissenting letter, a two-page advertisement in the October 1, 2001 edition of The Weekly Standard that stated, in part... "... we are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and random selection to account for the complexity of life... Careful examination of the evidence for Darwinian theory should be encouraged." who penned/signed this letter? oh, only the third most cited chemist in the world, Henry F. Schaefer, who was a Nobel nominee; James Tour of Rice University's Center for Nanoscale Science and Technology; Fred Figworth, professor of cellular and molecular physiology at Yale Graduate School, as well as about 100 other biologists, chemists, zoologists, physicists, anthropologists, molecular and cellular biologists, bioengineers, organic chemists, geologists, and astrophysicists. Also among them was the director of the Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry and scientists at the Plasma Physics Lab at Princeton, the National Museum of Natural History at the Smithsonian Institute, the Los Alamos National Laboratory, and the Lawrence Livermore Laboratories. Their degrees were from [sarcasm] backwoods, fundamentalist, narrow minded institutions like Yale, MIT, Tulane, Rice, Emory, George Mason, UofC, Cambridge, Stanford, Cornell, Rutgers, Princeton, Purdue, Duke, Michigan, Syracuse, Temple, Berkeley. [/sarcasm] And, before you spout out like you do, you should know that I'm not anti-evolution. Like others in the scientific community, I don't just throw my hands up when there aren't answers to hard questions and say, "well fuck, it must be God." I fully admit that some degree, some form of evolution exists. That much is inescapable. However, far too many scientists take the "facts" of evolution and leap to invalid conclusions not warranted by the existing data. It has become a religion in itself, whose followers adhere to it sometimes even more vehemently and "irrationally" than "back-woods fundamentalists" whose only intention is to force-feed creationism down everyone's throat. uh-huh. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

me too... just ordered mine last week... won't be here until mid feb or so. at least it's winter time and i wouldn't be jumping anyway. here's what it will look like. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

still haven't read Icons of Evolution have you. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

lmao!! why am I not surprised! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

funks, you are so one dimensional. YOU are more likely to get more, and thus be more likely to continue the human race IF you were able to get your woman off. Get a grip boy! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

i just put a hole in the bottom of my LAPtop. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Sometimes one just has to spell it out, you know. Some of our readers still believe in invisible friends. and some of our readers will soon meet them. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

The universal consensus among the competent is that ID is NOT science. and neither is much of darwinist theory. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

you never get to touch our plane. nor shall you jump it. nor shall you boink any hot babes in it. all you shall do, all the days of your life, is watch from the ground, or from the pathetic confines of a 182, as we frolick and freefall from the party plane. and from there you will cry and say, why am I such a dick? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

alright folks, here's the scoopie... we buy an old dc-3 and take to these guys right here.... http://www.baslerturbo.com/DEFAULT.html They outfit it w/ turbines, larger payload, some nice cabin seats up front, nice jump seats in the rear, redo the wings and voila... we have the best mutha fuckin jump ship out there... well, maybe except for the dc-9, but ours won't cost so much to maintain. see pics. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

well, you could always do the jungle juice thing... not very christmasy though I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

slow down there donkey! have you paid up your share yet? didn't THINK so! you pay up and we'll be there in batavia! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

ain't that the truth.... and we could land some corporate sponsorship and and and and... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

i'm all over it... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

there ya go.... here's my vision... door in back, load jumpers, typical jumpship floor. door in front, for the travellin, nice chairs, etc. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

are you talking the dc-3 or dc-6? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

me too! i wonder if this is really a possibility?!? I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

I like the redbull one more...However do you think they would let us lease it? then we wouldn't have to worry about the maintenance and you could just get a yearly payment (dues) for the plane...what do you say no no no, we need to own it as a community... and I wanna be the caretaker and quit my day job. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

Many noteable scientists who are NOT part of the "religious right" want this taught in biological curricula. true statement And there are parts of darwin's theories that are also not testable. Many members of the scientific community hold ID as more plausible than strict darwinism. And many other respected scientists have said the same thing about darwinism. These last statements in this article are fallacious. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

not too similar, but still quite nice.

well, wings b/c of the price for one, and they also seem to have a pretty stout reputation. i think they look groovy. i've heard their customer service is tops. everyone i've talked to so far w/ a wings is very pleased. my first rig was an old, used talon II... i'm sure this will seem like a rolls royce after jumping that. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

why, um, thank you me thinks a dz.com jump ship would also need some nice accomodations inside, for travelling from dz.to dz, so perhaps this will do? http://www.controller.com/listings/forsale/detail.asp?OHID=1088815&guid=B44F647D9B5341728CDFC88B39ED669F offered at 270k. If 10,000 of us contributed 27$ each, we could buy it. For those who could contribute more, we could establish a maintenance endowement (sp?) or something, new paint job, etc. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

ya know, we COULD do something a little less expensive... like the Red Bull DC-6 as an official DZ.com plane or something... http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=931662&WxsIERv=Qbhtynf%20QP-6O&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Erq%20Ohyy%20%28Gur%20Sylvat%20Ohyyf%29&QtODMg=Mhevpu%20%28-%20Xybgra%29%20%28MEU%20%2F%20YFMU%29&ERDLTkt=Fjvgmreynaq&ktODMp=Frcgrzore%2022%2C%202005&BP=1&WNEb25u=Cebcsernx&xsIERvdWdsY=A996QZ&MgTUQtODMgKE=Gur%20Erq%20Ohyy%20vf%20yrnivat%20sbe%20Oreyva-Grzcryubs&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=2477&NEb25uZWxs=2005-09-29%2019%3A17%3A44&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=45563%2F1034&static=yes&width=1200&height=812&sok=JURER%20%20%28ZNGPU%20%28nvepensg%2Cnveyvar%2Ccynpr%2Ccubgb_qngr%2Cpbhagel%2Cerznex%2Ccubgbtencure%2Crznvy%2Clrne%2Cert%2Cnvepensg_trarevp%2Cpa%2Cpbqr%29%20NTNVAFG%20%28%27%2B%22erq%22%20%2B%22ohyy%22%27%20VA%20OBBYRNA%20ZBQR%29%29%20%20beqre%20ol%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=30&prev_id=931716&next_id=NEXTID&size=L http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=951589&WxsIERv=Qbhtynf%20QP-6O&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Erq%20Ohyy%20%28Gur%20Sylvat%20Ohyyf%29&QtODMg=Fnymohet%20-%20J.N.%20Zbmneg%20%28Znktyna%29%20%28FMT%20%2F%20YBJF%29&ERDLTkt=Nhfgevn&ktODMp=Bpgbore%2025%2C%202005&BP=1&WNEb25u=Znexhf%20Ohggvatre&xsIERvdWdsY=A996QZ&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=1493&NEb25uZWxs=2005-11-04%2018%3A48%3A11&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=45563%2F1034&static=yes&width=1024&height=695&sok=JURER%20%20%28ZNGPU%20%28nvepensg%2Cnveyvar%2Ccynpr%2Ccubgb_qngr%2Cpbhagel%2Cerznex%2Ccubgbtencure%2Crznvy%2Clrne%2Cert%2Cnvepensg_trarevp%2Cpa%2Cpbqr%29%20NTNVAFG%20%28%27%2B%22erq%22%20%2B%22ohyy%22%27%20VA%20OBBYRNA%20ZBQR%29%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=12&prev_id=951590&next_id=951502&size=L http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=903418&WxsIERv=Qbhtynf%20QP-6O&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Erq%20Ohyy%20%28Gur%20Sylvat%20Ohyyf%29&QtODMg=Mrygjrt%20%28YBKM%29&ERDLTkt=Nhfgevn&ktODMp=Whar%2024%2C%202005&BP=1&WNEb25u=Naqernf%20Fgbrpxy&xsIERvdWdsY=A996QZ&MgTUQtODMgKE=%5BNvecbjre05%5D&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=1199&NEb25uZWxs=2005-08-18%2019%3A56%3A39&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=45563%2F1034&static=yes&width=1200&height=809&sok=JURER%20%20%28ZNGPU%20%28nvepensg%2Cnveyvar%2Ccynpr%2Ccubgb_qngr%2Cpbhagel%2Cerznex%2Ccubgbtencure%2Crznvy%2Clrne%2Cert%2Cnvepensg_trarevp%2Cpa%2Cpbqr%29%20NTNVAFG%20%28%27%2B%22erq%22%20%2B%22ohyy%22%27%20VA%20OBBYRNA%20ZBQR%29%29%20%20beqre%20ol%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=60&prev_id=903474&next_id=NEXTID&size=L http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=951262&WxsIERv=Qbhtynf%20QP-6O&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Erq%20Ohyy%20%28Gur%20Sylvat%20Ohyyf%29&QtODMg=Fnymohet%20-%20J.N.%20Zbmneg%20%28Znktyna%29%20%28FMT%20%2F%20YBJF%29&ERDLTkt=Nhfgevn&ktODMp=Bpgbore%2014%2C%202005&BP=0&WNEb25u=Xynhf%20Oenaqznvre&xsIERvdWdsY=A996QZ&MgTUQtODMgKE=Chyyvat%20bhg%20bs%20Unatne%208%20sbe%20na%20ratvar%20grfg%20eha&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=958&NEb25uZWxs=2005-11-04%2005%3A59%3A06&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=45563%2F1034&static=yes&width=1024&height=760&sok=JURER%20%20%28nveyvar%20%3D%20%27Erq%20Ohyy%20%28Gur%20Sylvat%20Ohyyf%29%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=7&prev_id=951502&next_id=950429&size=L http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=865499&WxsIERv=Qbhtynf%20QP-6O&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Erq%20Ohyy%20%28Gur%20Sylvat%20Ohyyf%29&QtODMg=Tenm%20-%20Gunyreubs%20%28TEM%20%2F%20YBJT%20%2F%20YBKT%29&ERDLTkt=Nhfgevn&ktODMp=Whar%2013%2C%202005&BP=0&WNEb25u=Puevfgvna%20Jnfre&xsIERvdWdsY=A996QZ&MgTUQtODMgKE=N%20irel%20cyrnfnag%20fhecevfr%20jura%20V%20fcbagnarbhfyl%20ivfvgrq%20gur%20nvecbeg.%20Whfg%20nobhg%20gb%20yrnir%20YBJT%20va%20gur%20ynfg%20fhaenlf%20bs%20gur%20qnl.&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=789&NEb25uZWxs=2005-06-23%2020%3A13%3A14&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=45563%2F1034&static=yes&width=1024&height=694&sok=JURER%20%20%28nveyvar%20%3D%20%27Erq%20Ohyy%20%28Gur%20Sylvat%20Ohyyf%29%27%29%20%20beqre%20ol%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=34&prev_id=870978&next_id=865373&size=L I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...

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yep, it sucks big dick. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And...