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Yeah, that is the feeling of the commentators that I have read. I can see it happen, and it would have been ok as I read it if they had just kept pushing the electric trim switch until the aircraft was flying level, then turned the stab trim off, as the MCAS won't run when the trim switches are pressed. But unfortunately it was not a sustained effort, more like a desperate "nothing is working, let's just try things" The manual even says to do just that, use the trim switches to level the stab, then turn it off. But I can understand in that situation it would be really hard to think that through.

That is really detailed report. On that website I could not get good resolution on the charts and graphs at the end, but i found the actual pdf and attached it, and you can see there was some crazy shit going on there. They had the stab trim set to cutout as they were supposed to, then had trouble manually trimming and then managed to do some manual trims then 5 sec after a manual trim an an auto-trim movement pushed the nose way down and cratered the plane. So I guess the thought is they turned the trim back on to try and trim it manually up, and then the auto-trim kicked in and pushed it down. But they could have used a trim wheel to trim it up instead of the switches? prelim 737 max.pdf

20kN has it right. I will add if the plane is not depressurized, you won't be able to open the emergency doors. If it is depressurized, but still at high altitude, you will have to stay on oxygen to function, and so it would be hard to get to a door unless you are right next to it, and it would have to be an over-wing hatch door. I do think you could get out of a hatch with your rig on. So you need two events: 1. A plane that is depressurized 2. A plane that cannot fly If both of these are true, there has probably been a catastrophic air-frame failure, most likely a terrorist attack or a really bad engine failure that damaged the wing / tail and the fuselage, so in addition to having to deal with oxygen and getting to a hatch and opening it and getting out into a very high slipstream (300+mph?) the plane could be spinning or tumbling as well, a very challenging situation. You would want to stay on oxygen until below 20k ft, or try to hyperventilate on oxygen before exiting.

I just realized the big benefit of this method is you don't have to lineup the already mounted can with the hole you cut in the drywall. As long as you are close to the junction box, stay within the joists, and line up with your other holes you are good.

There are enough rooms that no dimmer will control more than 14 lights which I think is ok, but I have to check with the final selection.

That system would work, but the drywall first would be annoying, as I would like to get the lights in well before the ceiling goes up. In addition, part of the basement is going to be a workshop, and I'd rather not trouble with finishing the ceiling in that room. So I could cut some 1/2" plywood mounting "plates" for the workshop and just put a few temp ones up in the other spaces until the ceiling goes in.

Because i don't want to join a DIY forum: I am planning on finishing a unfinished basement. I want to install about 30 lights, most of them LED can lights. The lights are 16W each, so plenty below the 1200W that a 14GA 15A light circuit can handle, but some things I read say you have to use the housing rating, and it seems like a lot of the housings can take a screw in light module, so maybe they are 100W rated? I am having a hard time finding out the ratings for the housings. Has anyone put in a bunch of LED lights and put more than 12 on a circuit? Or does anyone know more about lots of LED lights on a light circuit?

Stephan Patis loves these pun building, smh making Sunday comic strips. This one was mint.

The smartass in me says, "yeah, what would the guy's complaint be? That the women are getting a more accurate exam because of the direct skin contact, while the guys are getting ripped off with the cursory on the clothing check? Direct skin contact for all!"

I define "social media" more broadly that most. I consider dropzone.com social media, as well as any other hobby based forum, or reddit, or any site where you join an online community and can post and interact with others, so while you can stay off all such sites, most choose to have some sort of online social media presence (as I define it). I find it puzzling that for sites where the user individually curates a list of content creators (where they are by friending, or following), users complain about the content they see. If you have problems with content, drop the individual source of the content, not the entire site. Social media sites offer a wide range of people / groups to interact with, and it is up to the user to shape their experience in a way that meets their needs. What are my needs? I want to be entertained. I want to laugh, I want to smile, I want to learn new things, I want to help other people laugh and learn as well.

Yeah. They could teach social media posting like they used to teach letter writing. The first rule is "be interesting". To me, this means 1. Post a variety of stuff. Same topic repetitive posts quickly become boring. One or two vacation pics is great. A dozen sucks. 2. Be real. No one likes a tragedy, but people like drama, so sure, post something that highlights the trouble in your life, but don't poor me yourself. 3. Be funny. Easier said than done. But you can get away with a lot if you are funny, not even lol funny, just smh funny is ok.

teh vid

I wonder who was on the roof of this building. Red Bull execs? Friends and family? Run of the mill 1%'ers? Quite the show.

I dunno. It's funny how the zeitgeist swings from "public social media is dying, people have moved on to privacy focused apps like snapchat, stories on facebook and instagram or DM style encrypted apps" to "well the next generation will eventually be so used to public social media that they will be on there all the time" I think the privacy trend is more likely, especially if people think posting publicly will affect them financially. There are always the exceptions that prove the rule though. The whole "once you post it you can't take it down and it will be on the internet for anyone to find forever" is not that simple either. There are plenty of ways to share information that won't be seen by an insurance company, and even deleting a tweet on the ultimate public space, twitter, will let it slide out of view of prying eyes (unless you are a celebrity / public figure or have followers that will retweet you or report you). But if I was committing insurance fraud, like any other illegal act I sure as hell would keep that as private as possible. Posting about walking around while you are laid up recovering from your slip and fall would just be dumb.

It wasn't clear to me at first what the problems were, but I now understand why Boeing stock took a pounding. If the aviation world doesn't accept the "software" fixes Boeing has to offer, like you said, the 737 Max program is in trouble.

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thanks for the jokes

My mom says she doesn't understand how cloning works. I told her that makes two of us.

I think the Q & A is hampered by not having the ability to comment on answers without creating your own. This is how a stack overflow answer section looks with two answers, each with a set of comments.

I want to see what happens if I quote someone. Is this still an answer? [EDIT] it is its own answer. Hmm. not quite like StackOverflow, where each answer (and the question) becomes its own comment history (like a FB post). So I can comment on answers or the question and not create additional "answers". If that is available, that would help.

I will add that StackOverflow has pretty tight rules on questions. Questions can't be vague enough that they don't lend themselves to a consensus answer and need to be on topic for the part of the site they are being asked. For example, "What is your favorite color?" is not a good question. "What color should I get my next canopy?" is a better question, and "What are some things to consider when choosing a canopy color?" is a great question.

this is a meta-question, designed just to see how this looks

like StackOverflow? I would think it would also work to have a special post type that would create a question format that would turn just that post into a q & a, that way the question could stay in the relevant forum. But StackOverflow has the Q & A format down, so cloning theirs would be great. It raises the question, who is the Jon Skeet of DZ.com? pchapman would be closest these days, IMHO

ok, you know a few jokes, so post up some of your favorites. lurkers who don't post can't complain when there is not enough traffic...