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A nuclear rogue is a notion that posses nuclear weapons of mass destruction and refuses any international bodies to monitor the nuclear program. A nuclear rogue is any nation that posses nuclear weapons of mass destruction and refuses to sign the NPT. rogue:no longer obedient, belonging, or accepted and hence not controllable or answerable; deviating, renegade: Rogue State: a state that conducts its policy in a dangerously unpredictable way, disregarding international law or diplomacy. Sounds like I nailed it no? Carpe Diem

Tell ya what, to be fair I'll address any accusation or "fact" you claim that I feel is incorrect or pointless. But only after you do the same You are implying that because a nuclear rogue nation is verbally attacked by a nation that works within the confines of international nuclear scrutiny, the rouge nation has the right to insist a signer and participant of the NPT be stripped of any nuclear energy capabilities? Is that your reasoning? Carpe Diem

Not exactly. He was the Libertarian candidate in 1988 I stand corrected. Thank you. But I still believe the ball sack main stream media led the public that he was a Libertarian in many instances. How else do I account for all the right wingers that made the claim. And had never heard of RP before 08? Thanks for steering me straight. Carpe Diem

Religious fanaticism and political influence bought in the US. Combined with intense media black outs on events likely to tarnish the image of Israel and the bolstering of news pertaining to any of Israels enemies. Just a hunch An extremely organized and well financed effort to say the least. Carpe Diem

Now if you could just prove that I'd ever even heard of this manual or dictionary or whatever prior to our interaction, you might even have a point - as it is, YOU are the one doing the derailing. As for "countless debates" - do you use the same bogus tactics in all the rest of them, too, or is it restricted to this one? So, you think my fact of Israel being the record holder of Human Rights violations with the UN to be an opinion? Why is that? Can you not address the question in a non insulting, non derailing fashion? Wiki lists 224 UN resolutions "concerning" Israel (up until January 2009). I can't find any such list of resolutions against the Palestinians ...or any UN-cited Human Rights violations against them despite repeated wars, missile attacks and terrorist bombings against Israel. It's probably just me, but I think this says more about the UN than it does about either Israel or the Palestinians. Their credibility is in the toilet as far as I'm concerned. So, yes ...Israel is the record holder at the UN. Go figure! Well, I guess the UN see's the difference between a rag tag "militia" using coffee cans taped together with lit fuses - killing or injuring 1 in 1000 attempts and Israel stealing land, falsely imprisoning civilians including children, targeting through strategic strikes against innocent civilians with Apache's and M1 Tanks, satellite targeting, surrounding Gaza and basically pulling off a modern day seize. I might be wrong. You're right I guess. Israel is perfect and the entire world is wrong. Okay. I concede Carpe Diem

When are YOU going to? So you're asserting that because Iran does not like Israel, that give Israel (nuclear rogue) the right to insist that Iran give up nuclear energy (not nuclear rogue) Can you elaborate on this opinion? Carpe Diem

Well, for starts, Bibi hasn't claimed that Iran needs to be wiped off the face of the Earth that I'm aware of - Imadinnerjacket, however, *has* stated that about Israel. So you're asserting that because Iran does not like Israel, that give Israel (nuclear rogue) the right to insist that Iran give up nuclear energy (not nuclear rogue) Can you elaborate on this opinion? It's difficult to follow your hypocritical reasoning. Oh, look...another slanderous, distracting comment - yes, you're quite the master debater, aren't you? Can you not answer the question. You claimed it was my opinion. I claim it's fact. Well, opinions are based on facts. So you might technically be correct that it's my opinion ...based on fact. You obviously cannot deny these facts so I'll move along. Theres plenty more to debate then that one fact. BTW, I certainly would not think any comments I made to be slanderous (please provide quote) or any derailing tactics. So, give up your efforts and stick to a pleasant debate huh? Stick to the debate...K? Carpe Diem

Now if you could just prove that I'd ever even heard of this manual or dictionary or whatever prior to our interaction, you might even have a point - as it is, YOU are the one doing the derailing. As for "countless debates" - do you use the same bogus tactics in all the rest of them, too, or is it restricted to this one? So, you think my fact of Israel being the record holder of Human Rights violations with the UN to be an opinion? Why is that? Can you not address the question in a non insulting, non derailing fashion? Carpe Diem

Well, for starts, Bibi hasn't claimed that Iran needs to be wiped off the face of the Earth that I'm aware of - Imadinnerjacket, however, *has* stated that about Israel. So you're asserting that because Iran does not like Israel, that give Israel (nuclear rogue) the right to insist that Iran give up nuclear energy (not nuclear rogue) Can you elaborate on this opinion? It's difficult to follow your hypocritical reasoning. Carpe Diem

Why is Israel an international nuclear rogue yet claims Iran should be monitored until dismantled?? what give a nuclear rogue that right? Carpe Diem

Now if you could just prove that I'd ever even heard of this manual or dictionary or whatever prior to our interaction, you might even have a point - as it is, YOU are the one doing the derailing. As for "countless debates" - do you use the same bogus tactics in all the rest of them, too, or is it restricted to this one? Let's see if this works again: So, you think my fact of Israel being the record holder of Human Rights violations with the UN to be an opinion? Why is that? Can you not address the question in a non insulting, non derailing fashion? It's called a debate. Not an insultfest. Wanna try? Got it in ya? Carpe Diem

And what would claiming I use a 'Hasbara training manual' be, pray tell? My comprehension is just fine - your 'facts' appear to me more along the line of opinion. For someone not interesting in it, you sure use a lot of it. If you were to research the Hasbara 2009 Global Dictionary you'd find that you not sticking to the topic and instead derailing at every opportunity is very consistent with that text. My connecting these observations is just that. An observation based on countless debates. So, you think my fact of Israel being the record holder of Human Rights violations with the UN to be an opinion? Why is that? Can't use Google and verify yourself? Carpe Diem

Ron Paul DID make it to the primaries in 2008. I know because I voted for him. He didn't win the nomination. I know he made it, but was it as a Republican? My apologies then, I thought he ran independant in '08. I was out of pocket for the last election and did not vote. That's not your fault. The ball sack main stream media painted him that way. He has always been a Republican. And most likely always will be. When FAUX news screwed him over I knew he was a real threat. His word is out. His revolution has begun. If he does not make it to POTUS then it's up to us to support the Liberty focused issues he has gotten in the main stream. Thanks for the support! Carpe Diem

Documented by who? by the un. the same un that brought israel into existence and in september will vote to bring palestine into existence. finally some good news for you... Uh, not the same UN, and no, the UN will not be so voting in September. Technicality. Yes, the UN was proceeded by the League of Nations. Same efforts. International framework. So since there is not a LN any longer and has been replaced by the UN to fulfill the same requirements, it is not really false in the meaning of the statement "same org that brought Israel into existence" Would you like to debate why Israel refuses to adhere to the Human rights Charter that was instituted after the tragedies of WW2? And don't you find it ironic in a creepy way? I do. Israel is an international rogue on many points. Hard to defend it Carpe Diem

Documented by who? by the un. the same un that brought israel into existence and in september will vote to bring palestine into existence. finally some good news for you... Thanks! You hit my point right on he head but beat me to the pay off. Yes, it was sort of a trap. But I find that helps with the learning process sometimes. It's difficult to prevent and remove infowarts. Letting them figure it our and reprogram themselves through facts is more effective. Carpe Diem

Oh you very well implied that anti-Zionists are anti-semetics. And that my friend is false and an accusation typically used to derail the topic. Maybe you did not intend it to and merely threw out the insult. But it is a trend among the Pro-Israeli poster to rely on character attacks and slander. And indeed I agree with your point that the UN Security Counsel has included seedy nations. But again, that does not dissolve the claim made against Israel. Example: If you punched me in the face ad Charlie Manson tattled on you. It doesn't mean the event did not take place. My point in Israel exhibits severe delusions of grandeur and an immense sense of entitlement. And from a US citizen stand point, I feel Israel has become a security, diplomatic and financial burden. Very much played down in main stream ball sack media. Carpe Diem

Yes, and your "human rights violator" post was so neutral, wasn't it? Was it supposed to be? You're serious aren't you? You really can't define the difference between calling someone "anti-Semitic" (distraction tactic) because they disagree with policies of Israel and using an example that Israel is a documented human rights violator? What I wrote is factual. I looked, but couldn't locate any post the poster made that would be interpreted as "anti-Semitic" to a reasonable person. Get creative with this sophisticated debate and quit relying on your Hasbara training manual. My *what* training manual? As for "sophistication" (not that you're showing any as of yet), here's a hint - if you're going to claim that your oppent is using distracting tactics, it's best if you're not using them yourself. Just sayin'. Mike - calling your opponent "anti-Semitic" for not agreeing with the policies of Israel is a distraction tactic because it is slander without cause. And now one spends energy defending themselves against the claim instead of debating facts. Google Hasbara 2009 global language dictionary and you will see why I expressed my suspicion. Regarding "sophistication" of this topic? That means complicated. Your reading comprehension is the issue here. Back on track - Israel is not only a documented human rights violator but continues to break key Geneva conventions. I know, I know all the comebacks. But those are still facts. So, if you'd like to continue this debate with me, please stick to facts and not wasting time with defending slander or other distraction tactics. I'm not interested in that thanks. Carpe Diem

Yes, and your "human rights violator" post was so neutral, wasn't it? Was it supposed to be? You're serious aren't you? You really can't define the difference between calling someone "anti-Semitic" (distraction tactic) because they disagree with policies of Israel and using an example that Israel is a documented human rights violator? What I wrote is factual. I looked, but couldn't locate any post the poster made that would be interpreted as "anti-Semitic" to a reasonable person. Get creative with this sophisticated debate and quit relying on your Hasbara training manual. Carpe Diem

So are anti semites... Blam! I was waiting to see how long that tactic would take to pop out. Old one but effective way to derail the conversation away from facts. Slander your opposition. Carpe Diem

"The Arab neighbors of Israel also have nothing holding them back from a prosperous future except their hatred that drives their suffering." Oh really? Do you really want to peel back the onion and learn how Israel has systematically achieved collective punishment on an innocent civilian population? Here are a few facts for the fire: The same Intl org that "created" Israel holds Israel as the record holder for human rights violations. Israel ignores that. They also have ignored the Geneva Convention. Um and what was your statement above? They "have nothing holding them back"? You seem to be more caught up in your religious ties and less with reality. Dan - you'll never win with a religious fanatic. Carpe Diem

Ron Paul - The only choice I see for America. I wrote him in last time. Please look into his efforts. Carpe Diem

Union Banking Corp Smedely Butler Zapata Oil Seems like to the CFR, PNAC, Financial Dynasties, Oil Companies and Bush family members and "buddies" have him going down as the greatest puppet they ever got in office. Ol Prescott would be proud. This family has always operated in private, above the law, to further their personal gains. I see very little done for this country that did not involve HUGE profits for Bush and Co. Paa - lenty of evidence shows this to be fact. He's not worried about the US it seems. Only about a private plan put togther by bankers and oilmen to create a marxists environment where a very small group continues to control many facets of the world. Proven. Enjoy the ride.... Carpe Diem

I'd be certain to NEVER rely soley on "Main Stream" media. Talkin g about a conspiracy. Carpe Diem

Well, he was impeached for obstruction. I found that comment pertinent. Carpe Diem

Got distracted. But recently enlightened. I live an area where most my neighbors are government. Either that or contractors. To be at a school party with parents from Lockheed, NSA, CIA, Secret Service or FBI around here is nothing special. A Director for Counter Terrorism at the State Department lives across the street. As I've always been known to beat to my own drum, for my families sake, I've kept my political and religious opinions private. Regardless if I shared the same philosophies with the present group I was in at the time. I guess I never put it all together. My question is why is it so hard for intelligent folks from the right to even acknowledge that this is what happened? Even when t's explained in a rational manner with valid sources as examples. CRAZY! And that was a fair comment. I'm awake now! Carpe Diem