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I was thinking a pool or "over/under" on how long it takes the new president to be impeached. Well he has been sued already since becoming president. Given midterms that show a new awakening of voters to trumpism. " Trumpism A gospel politicians preach to instill fear in locals: illegals are bringing crime and robbing their jobs, and radicals among Muslim refugees are terrorizing the "infidels." Although Trumpism arguably promotes extreme nationalism, anti-globalization, xenophobia, and Islamophobia, however, many politicians in the developed world secretly endorse this divisive doctrine to guard against crime and terrorism." That trump will likely refuse to forgive, forget and move on from any republicans in the house or senate that vote against him. I would say his welcome would be worn out in two and a half years. With an impeachment for ethics violations of trump business and conflicts of interests, thereafter.

Economic theories are just that. Theories. The best answers come from countries or states that try it out. Its like safe needle injection sites. When i first heard of it I thought it was the stupidest idea since trickle down economics. But the savings in incarceration costs, health costs from the reduction in spread of disease. Makes it a no brainer. I don't think is an idea that should be tried first. But after a five year trial, EU countries should have some good data to study. You mean try it out like the USSR? I doubt the USSR ever had a successful program excepting space. In order to judge success the economics would have to be close in all the parameters between two states. While EU countries have more government participation than the US. They would be better than nothing. Somehow the idea that hard core republicans could get their heads around it. Would be like democrats agreeing to the arming of every citizen, without restriction.

A subsidy that helps the end user, i.e. the American consumer is nothing less than what every other segment of the economy gets. It like saying federal funding of airports subsidizes airlines and air travelers. Sure it does but its merely part of the whole picture of government support for commerce. IMO there is a subsidy of big oil in the guarantees of oil security, oil supplies by the US military support of Gulf states. i.e. propping up the gulf emirates and the Saudi governments. Green energy and independent oil supply would, or could lead the US away from such support and expense. trumps isolationist ideologies would tend to lead to this. But i personally think big oil and the military-industrial complex is too tied to this policy. The further you dig the more subsidies anyone can come up with. Its sort of like trumps hair. You know there must be a human under it. Its just that nobody has ever looked there before. Or if they've looked, never found a soul which would be identified with a human.

Could you possibly link to where he said that so that we can see it in context? It looks like a description of the possible worse case scenario outcome of climate change. Not like the outcome of one project. It is just as wrong to use his words this way as it would be wrong for him to claim that. No one advances their argument in any significant way when they engage in extreme hyperbole. Agree. you hurt yourself when extreme hyperbole borders on lying. Sort of https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Trumpesque

"When they said they'd leave the country if Trump became US President, they weren't kidding." http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20170123-meet-the-people-leaving-trumps-america "According to the National Foundation for American Policy, more than half of all US technology startups are founded by immigrants. So without an easy path toward citizenship, or in the face of a clamping down on foreign work visas, Silicon Valley faces to lose more than just its lobbying goals in Washington. It could begin to see its influence in all sectors of modern industry — from entertainment to transportation to finance — wane as foreign workers and startup founders are denied entry and begin establishing technology centers outside the US. This could have a number of lasting ripple effects as large tech companies start feeling disadvantaged. “A company like Oracle or some of the enterprise software companies, you could see them potentially losing global market share because of this,” Atkinson says. To counter, those companies could look to Canada. “Places like Vancouver, Toronto, even Montreal could be an option for American tech companies,” he adds. Canada could also use this opportunity to court foreign startup founders away from places like Palo Alto. " http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/11/13594172/donald-trump-immigration-silicon-valley-innovation-h1b-visas

Well i agree with trump on these ideas. Even infinite monkey theorem, i.e. trump theory. Will get things right occasionally.

Economic theories are just that. Theories. The best answers come from countries or states that try it out. Its like safe needle injection sites. When i first heard of it I thought it was the stupidest idea since trickle down economics. But the savings in incarceration costs, health costs from the reduction in spread of disease. Makes it a no brainer. I don't think is an idea that should be tried first. But after a five year trial, EU countries should have some good data to study.

http://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Charity Current thoughts: http://fortune.com/2015/09/14/pope-francis-capitalism-inequality/ and the new antichrist's thoughts on compassion, giving, etc. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/18/donald-trump-pope-francis-christian-wall-mexico-border

Who is designing the robots? Who is maintaining the robots? If your answer is, "other robots" then we're not talking about robots anymore. We're talking about a new, intelligent form of life. At that point, which will not happen in the next 20 years, sorry, the whole world paradigm has changed. In the next 20 years I think we'll see some self driving cars/trucks that will still require a human driver to monitor and react to unpredictable events. We won't be ale to transition to a driverless system because the infrastructure to allow machine vision to work doesn't exist in many parts of the world, including the rural US. We'll see more robotic assembly of products, potentially even clothing (which will really shake the world economy). We'll see robotic assistants in the medical field, but only very simple things like preparing surgical trays and cleaning instruments. Doctors and nurses aren't going anywhere. Whenever I see people predicting a huge change in "the next 20 years" I almost always think they are full of it. Radical change isn't predictable, and people never take into account human momentum or infrastructure requirements. I agree that there seems to be change in the winds with regards to self driving, robots. Finally!! But in the entire history of mankind from the time of the first Luddites. New classes of jobs and opportunity has arisen. It takes education and retraining. Its like the issue of trump baseball caps, or field work in the California vegetable farms. US workers just won't do those jobs at the wages that are competitive. Who wants to run a sewing machine making baseball caps for .40-.50 cents a cap. Pick fruit on a 80-90 degree day for; " Still, the increased pay, improved working conditions and overtime benefits have failed to attract many American workers. "Of the 300 workers I have in the field, two are Americans," said Joe Del Bosque, a farm owner in Firebaugh, California. One big reason: The work can be very labor intensive, said Nassif. Picking strawberries, tomatoes or melons requires bending down or kneeling all day. Picking tree fruits, like oranges and peaches, means carrying 10- to 20-pound bushels while balancing on ladders in all sorts of weather conditions. " http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/29/news/economy/american-farm-workers/

I agree but a major factor in the failure of the US middle class not growing is that the wealth of the upper class is expanding so much. Income disparity has been growing for some time. Two other factors that have not been mentioned much in this consideration is the costs of homelessness. I.e. drug addictions, crime, incarceration costs. All arising from the absence of a US integrated social safety net like a universal Basic income. The above is a huge number of separate issues and programs. But its useful to compare European programs to US for comparison.

http://in.reuters.com/article/usa-obamacare-pharmaceuticals-idINKBN157250 This is one reason why the US health care is so expensive. and the result: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/518a3cfee4b0a77d03a62c98/t/534fc9ebe4b05a88e5fbab70/1397737963288/2013+iFHP+FINAL+4+14+14.pdf Lawyers add another 2.4% https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/medical-liability-costs-us/ Then add another 1/2 billion, yearly, for preventable drug and substance abuse: http://www.wefaceittogether.org/it-s-a-disease/costs-of-addiction

Mmmm... There is at least one other explanation floating around. I wasn't there. I haven't seen video. However, the story is that Trump brought a staff of yes men with him to chuckle and cheer at appropriate points so regardless if the CIA remained stoic, the microphones would still hear his intentions. Authorities are also pushing back against the perception that the CIA workforce was cheering for the president. They say the first three rows in front of the president were largely made up of supporters of Mr. Trump’s campaign. Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sources-say-theres-a-sense-of-unease-in-intel-community-after-trump-cia-visit/ "CBS News confirmed reports that President Donald Trump brought a studio audience to his visit with the CIA on Saturday. The news agency reports that an official said the visit left a wake of "unease," “made relations with the intelligence community worse," and was “uncomfortable.” " http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sources-say-theres-a-sense-of-unease-in-intel-community-after-trump-cia-visit/ "NEW YORK (AP) — White House press secretary Sean Spicer told a roomful of reporters that "our intention is never to lie to you," although sometimes the Trump administration may "disagree with the facts." Spicer's first full press briefing was closely watched Monday following a weekend statement about President Donald Trump's inauguration audience that included incorrect assertions. After White House counselor Kellyanne Conway received wide social media attention for her explanation that Spicer had presented "alternative facts," Monday's briefing was televised live on CNN, Fox News Channel, MSNBC and, for a time, even ABC." http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-4149732/White-House-press-secretary-Our-intention-never-lie.html So thats how trump is going to create jobs. Pay busloads of Americans to follow him and his lackeys around cheering and clapping. A teleprompter that faces in both directions so one party knows when to lie and the other when its their turn to clap.

Are we talking in the world, or USA? Never happen in US. Ontario Canada: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-report-touting-basic-income-likely-to-target-middle-aged-women-disabled-adults-for-most-help Finland: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/finland-to-consider-introducing-universal-basic-income-in-2017-a6963321.html

Then again today there was a trump hack explaining to the wide eyed journalists on CNN, that the EPA was responsible for the lead contamination of drinking water in Flint Mich. If its up to them there will be free lead for all Americans. Thats why the EPA needs to be disbanded according to this buffoon.

Very true - and even more so for newer technologies, like solar, wind and grid-scale storage. and - cut wages by 30% in the oil industry. - cut service costs by 30% - cut rig lease rates. Devastated balance sheets of the smaller oil companies. and "A report published earlier this month by Haynes and Boone found that ninety gas and oil producers in the United States (US) and Canada have filed for bankruptcy from 3 January, 2015 to 1 August, 2016. Approximately US$66.5 billion in aggregate debt has been declared in dozens of bankruptcy cases including Chapter 7, Chapter 11 and Chapter 15, based on the analysis from the international corporate law firm. Texas leads the number of bankruptcy filings with 44 during the time period measured by Haynes and Boone, and also has the largest number of debt declared in courts with around US$29.5 billion." http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/20-Months-90-Bankruptcies-In-North-American-Oil-Gas.html

here you go - since Trump is pretty much Monte Burns Careful there we all know that trump likes to carry a grudge. Now the NPS has been caught poking fun at trump and telling the truth about global warming. http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/20/14341882/national-park-service-twitter-account-anti-trump-messages-inauguration

Its already had an effect. There are schizophrenics with Tourette's who have more control over what comes out of their mouths than donald trump. You misunderstand; The article is about the effect on people hearing the lies, not the ones spreading the lies. IMO since Bill Clinton it has become more and more important to start by vetting the source of information. I think that many people default to a easier way of cognitive functioning when it concerns trump. Thats why otherwise reasonable people say that they like trump because he "tells the truth". Interviews with trump supports will have this response at least 20% of the time. I read this article a while ago and it provided some help in understanding trump. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-mind-of-donald-trump/480771/ With the exception of: "Nixon was widely recognized to be cunning, callous, cynical, and Machiavellian, even by the standards of American politicians. Empathy was not his strong suit. This sounds a lot like Donald Trump, too—except you have to add the ebullient extroversion, the relentless showmanship, and the larger-than-life celebrity. Nixon could never fill a room the way Trump can.... Research shows that people low in agreeableness are typically viewed as untrustworthy. Dishonesty and deceit brought down Nixon and damaged the institution of the presidency. It is generally believed today that all politicians lie, or at least dissemble, but Trump appears extreme in this regard... For psychologists, it is almost impossible to talk about Donald Trump without using the word narcissism. Asked to sum up Trump’s personality for an article in Vanity Fair, Howard Gardner, a psychologist at Harvard, responded, “Remarkably narcissistic.”.. Psychological research demonstrates that many narcissists come across as charming, witty, and charismatic upon initial acquaintance. They can attain high levels of popularity and esteem in the short term. As long as they prove to be successful and brilliant—like Steve Jobs—they may be able to weather criticism and retain their exalted status. But more often than not, narcissists wear out their welcome." And in psychology today: "Though some lies produce interpersonal friction, others may actually serve as a kind of harmless social lubricant. "They make it easier for people to get along," says DePaulo, noting that in the diary study one in every four of the participants' lies were told solely for the benefit of another person... Certain cultures may place special importance on these "kind" lies. A survey of residents at 31 senior citizen centers in Los Angeles recently revealed that only about half of elderly Korean Americans believe that patients diagnosed with life-threatening metastatic cancer should be told the truth about their condition. In contrast, nearly 90 percent of Americans of European or African descent felt that the terminally ill should be confronted with the truth.... Who Lies? Saxe believes that anyone under enough pressure, or given enough incentive, will lie. But in a study published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, DePaulo and Deborah A. Kashy, Ph.D., of Texas A&M University, report that frequent liars tend to be manipulative and Machiavellian, not to mention overly concerned with the impression they make on others. Still, DePaulo warns that liars "don't always fit the stereotype of caring only about themselves. Further research reveals that extroverted, sociable people are slightly more likely to lie, and that some personality and physical traits—notably self-confidence and physical attractiveness—have been linked to an individual's skill at lying when under pressure." https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199705/the-truth-about-lying That may be a whole lot to digest. But for me, when trump speaks or I hear one of his puppets speak. I just tune them out and am just filled with absolute disgust. Kellyanne Conway and his other team of apologists...er lairs . I just tune them out. An unfortunate effect of American politics and the divisive nature of the major parties is the lack of straight talk. Hence the need for lie/spin filter between the ears. Which brings me back to the first statement about an easier way to understand trump. The cognitive filter of his lies. The quote from trump supporters that they support him because "He can't make it any worse". Is again the default easy way out to mull the mind through the "trumpisms" that come out of his mouth. The "It takes work: We must actively choose to accept or reject each statement we hear. In certain circumstances, that verification simply fails to take place. As Gilbert writes, human minds, “when faced with shortages of time, energy, or conclusive evidence, may fail to unaccept the ideas that they involuntarily accept during comprehension.” Above quote from your story.

Its already had an effect. There are schizophrenics with Tourette's who have more control over what comes out of their mouths than donald trump.

Mmmm... There is at least one other explanation floating around. I wasn't there. I haven't seen video. However, the story is that Trump brought a staff of yes men with him to chuckle and cheer at appropriate points so regardless if the CIA remained stoic, the microphones would still hear his intentions. He did it at his campaign announcement, he did it at his only press conference as Pres elect... Of course he did it at his first appearance as President. This is the man who continued to hold rallies after the election because he gets off on the applause. He knows no other way. Upon reflection, most CIA are pretty smart people and they could have just been laughing at him. IMO as intelligence-intellect increases trump becomes funnier and funnier. It has to because nothing he says makes sense.

Grasshopper: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4825123;search_string=Wolfcamp%20shale;#4825123 If we all work together we'll get you a job in the new trump administration.

Fuck that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h_v_our_Q You read this part didn't you? "2007 In a lawsuit, the manager of a proposed Trump hotel-condo tower in Phoenix alleges that Sater threatened to have a cousin shock his testicles, cut off his legs and leave him "dead in the trunk of his car" if the manager "disclosed to any party any of [Sater's] suspected improprieties and past criminal conduct." ... In a June 2007 e-mail chain obtained by FORBES involving Trump executives (including Donald Jr. and Ivanka), Bayrock executives (including Sater) and execs at Sapir Organization--a key Trump development partner owned by then-billionaire Tamir Sapir--Sater says he's dealing directly with Donald Trump and his family in a dispute: "Donald Jr. and sr [sic] are calling me to talk about us eating it. I called Ivanka and told her I was pissed about Donald throwing me under the bus to Sapir. " I dunno but I'm afraid of trump. I think my legs are sort of useful!

Easy there big boy...Easy there!!! "Except for fracking. Unlike conventional projects, shale wells enjoy an extremely short life. In the Bakken region straddling Montana and North Dakota, a well that starts out pumping 1,000 barrels a day will decline to just 280 barrels by the start of year two, a shrinkage of 72%. By the beginning of year three, more than half the reserves of that well will be depleted, and annual production will fall to a trickle. To generate constant or increasing revenue, producers need to constantly drill new wells, since their existing wells span a mere half-life by industry standards.... On average, the “all-in,” breakeven cost for U.S. hydraulic shale is $65 per barrel, according to a study by Rystad Energy and Morgan Stanley Commodity Research. So, with the current price at $48, the industry is under siege. To be sure, the frackers will continue to operate older wells so long as they generate revenues in excess of their variable costs. But the older wells—unlike those in the Middle East or the North Sea—produce only tiny quantities. To keep the boom going, the shale gang must keep doing what they’ve been doing to thrive; they need to drill many, many new wells.' http://fortune.com/2015/01/09/oil-prices-shale-fracking/

Perhaps we should scale back the criticism of trump a bit. After all he is "connected". http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910 http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2016/10/03/donald-trump-and-the-felon-inside-his-business-dealings-with-a-mob-connected-hustler/#60d1c5791e02 Thats why the CIA employees laughed at his jokes. If trump or his friends come asking we might have to throw quade under the bus.

THIS VVVVVV Alt Fact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sIXTPZD0pA FACT: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-inauguration-hats-idUSKBN1542YL I hate being put in the uncomfortable position of defending Trump, but he can hardly be held responsible for hats that are sold without his permission. Mayby this will help: "Trump apparel The Donald J. Trump Collection includes ties, suits, dress shirts, eyeglasses and other accessories. Trump shirts were made in China, Bangladesh, Honduras and Vietnam. PolitiFact Virginia found some Trump sport coats made in India. The Clinton campaign pointed to import data from 2007 that showed a Trump men’s shirt shipment marked as made in South Korea. Some of the Trump suits on Amazon.com show they were imported, Made in USA or both. BuzzFeed ordered a suit that was listed as both “imported” and “Made in USA” — and ended up with a label showing the suits were made in Indonesia. Users commented on Amazon.com that the suit that BuzzFeed purchased previously was listed as being imported from Mexico or China. This photo shows a Trump suit that carries a “Made in Mexico” label.... Several Trump Home items are listed as made in China or imported from China — mirrors, ceramic vases, wall decorations, kitchen items and lighting fixtures. The Clinton campaign has pointed to a trademark registration for the Trump Home brand that shows picture frames and other home products were made in India." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/26/how-many-trump-products-were-made-overseas-heres-the-complete-list/?utm_term=.f5675db78008 and "Ivanka Trump’s $100 million apparel line is sewn in Asian countries under a licensing agreement with G-III Apparel Group Inc., which has expanded from making coats in New York’s Garment District to become a manufacturer of global scope. That method of moving $140 sheath dresses and $80 sweaters means political embarrassment for her father, who has threatened a trade war against China, the world’s second-largest economy. But she can make a profit in few other ways... “They get the jobs, they get the factories, they get the cash, and all we get -- we get illegal immigration and we get drugs,” he said in the speech. But dissonance persists between his public stances and the family’s private business. Ivanka Trump has taken a small step to distance herself from her branding company: They now have separate Twitter accounts. Still, protesters gathered outside her New York City home this week for a candlelight vigil. Groups are organizing boycotts of retailers that sell her goods." https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-12-02/ivanka-trump-s-china-sewn-line-turns-profit-at-a-political-cost Just another alternative fact I guess!

THIS VVVVVV Alt Fact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sIXTPZD0pA FACT: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-inauguration-hats-idUSKBN1542YL