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And yet Kallend, Bill, Quade and company seem to be OK with that. They want to talk around the problem instead of addressing it at it's core. Feds need to lock up the Union Leaders of the CPD. "Of the 25 officers with the most complaints, a dozen have been involved in recent lawsuits that either ended in settlements or judgments against the city, costing taxpayers at least $4.3 million, according to an online database compiled by The Chicago Reporter analyzing city payouts from just 2012 to 2015. The manner in which the police have dealt with citizen complaints — particularly those involving allegations of excessive force — is at the center of the U.S. Justice Department's ongoing civil rights probe into whether police have systematically trampled citizens' rights. The investigation began in December shortly after the release of the now-infamous dashcam video showing a police officer shooting 17-year-old Laquan McDonald 16 times in 2014. Emanuel has responded to the political fallout of the McDonald scandal by announcing changes aimed at staying ahead of federal authorities who could seek to enforce reforms. His plan for a new oversight agency, the Civilian Office of Police Accountability, includes significant changes in the way complaints are handled — including allowing investigators to consider officers' complaint histories in investigating new allegations and restricting the process of mediation that led to hundreds of cases being resolved with light punishments. The data release on Wednesday came three months after an Illinois appeals court unanimously ruled the disciplinary records must be released under the Freedom of Information Act." http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watchdog/ct-chicago-police-complaints-met-20161013-story.html "CHICAGO — Racism has contributed to a long pattern of institutional failures by the Chicago Police Department in which officers have mistreated people, operated without sufficient oversight, and lost the trust of residents, a task force appointed by Mayor Rahm Emanuel has found. The report, issued on Wednesday, was blistering, blunt and backed up by devastating statistics. Coincidentally, it was released as city leaders were installing a new, permanent superintendent for the Chicago Police Department. “C.P.D.’s own data gives validity to the widely held belief the police have no regard for the sanctity of life when it comes to people of color,” the task force wrote. “Stopped without justification, verbally and physically abused, and in some instances arrested, and then detained without counsel — that is what we heard about over and over again.” The report reinforces complaints made for decades by African-American residents who have said they were unfairly singled out by officers without justification on a regular basis, then ignored when they raised complaints." https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/14/us/chicago-police-dept-plagued-by-systemic-racism-task-force-finds.html?_r=0 https://theintercept.com/2016/10/06/in-the-chicago-police-department-if-the-bosses-say-it-didnt-happen-it-didnt-happen/

Did you ever stop to find out how old Soros was during WW2? Why bother. It fits with a certain Fascist narrative that appeals to certain groups. "Wow, indeed. As hoaxes go, this one was neither plausible nor hard to disprove. Given that Soros — born in 1930 — was only nine years old when World War II began and 14 when the war ended in Europe in 1945, he couldn’t have joined the SS, whose minimum age requirement was 17, even if he had wanted to. Moreover, Soros would never have met the SS requirement for pure “Aryan” heritage. Quite to the contrary, Soros grew to adolescence as a persecuted Jew in Nazi-occupied Budapest. The mislabeled photo is easily debunked using a reverse image search. The young man portrayed in the Waffen SS uniform is Oskar Groening, a Nazi who served at Auschwitz from 1942 through the end of World War II:" http://www.snopes.com/george-soros-ss-nazi-germany/ http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/11/28/breitbart-uses-nazi-inspired-anti-semitic-rhetoric-george-soros-attack/214641 The anti Jewish smear campaign against Soros: "Influential financial analysts Zerohedge claim George Soros “singlehandedly created the European refugee crisis”; xenophobic rag Breitbart says Soros’s funding of Black Lives Matter was part of an agenda to swing the US presidential election; and Donald Trump’s favourite crank Alex Jones says “Soros is behind the Muslim takeover of the West”. In August, hackers thought to be linked to the Russian government stole thousands of documents from Soros’s foundation’s servers and put them online, placing at risk many of the brave individuals the foundation funds. As the world turns to the hard right, one man has become a figure of hate for resurgent nationalists across the globe: Soros has become the No 1 target for the alt-right – a figure central to wild conspiracy theories – because nationalists want to destroy for good the idea that democracy or liberal values can be promoted, or encouraged." http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/george-soros-caused-refugee-crisis-breitbart-muslim-takeover-biggest-threat-alt-right-global-a7419291.html Russian media is especially active against Soros for his support of Eastern European democracy's. https://www.rt.com/usa/366579-soros-orgs-driving-trump-protests/ Here is a free pdf version of a book that should be required reading in every church in America. Every school. "Sinclair Lewis Novel 'It Can't Happen Here' Sells Out Online Kerry Close Nov 16, 2016 Some voters—shell-shocked by the results of the 2016 presidential election—are rushing to buy the book that Donald Trump's critics say may have predicted his rise 80 years ago. In the wake of Donald Trump's election, copies of Sinclair Lewis's 1935 satirical political novel It Can't Happen Here has sold out on some major online book retailers, including Amazon and Books-a-Million. The novel—which was written as Adolf Hitler rose to power in Nazi Germany—tells the story of a fascist takeover in America. The main character, Buzz Windrip, appeals to voters with a mix of crass language and nativist ideology. Once elected, he solidifies his power by energizing his base against immigrants, people on welfare, and the liberal press. The novel has been called "frighteningly contemporary" in the wake of the Trump campaign and election. As Slate wrote in September 2015: With his careful mix of plainspoken honesty and reactionary delusion, Trump is following an old rhetorical playbook, one defined and employed successfully in the 1936 presidential campaign of [Windrip]. If you'd like to read the novel, you can still order it through Barnes & Noble, or by checking to see if your local brick-and-mortar bookstore has it in stock (or by going to the library!). You can also place an order for the novel on Amazon and the online retailer will ship it to you once it restocks its copies." http://time.com/money/4573801/sinclair-lewis-it-cant-happen-here-amazon/ $8.79 at amazon. For DZ speakers corner, Free book is here: http://www.bookyards.com/en/book/details/15208/It-Can-T-Happen-Here#.WKsTDX88Z0w

IMO this thread has wandered into deep space.

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/203984-illegal-immigrants-benefit-the-us-economy You will not find a area of investigation with as much spin and faulty study as this. There are hundreds of studies which have the originating intent of proving a net cost or net benefit relating to undocumented immigrants. http://business.time.com/2013/01/30/the-economics-of-immigration-who-wins-who-loses-and-why/ http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21705699-who-are-main-economic-losers-low-skilled-immigration-wage-war There are so many factors in play that only universities, large think tank economists and governments can really comprehensively cover the variables. Generally speaking they are a net benefit. Not as huge a benefit as the left would argue. But for certain not a negative economic impact on the economy.One of the studies below suggests that there is a negative correlation between US spending on immigration border enforcement. That means for every $1 spent on immigration border enforcement the return is about 97 cents. This is of course a separate issue from drug, gun, smuggling etc. Further reading both of these will give you a fairly comprehensive and honest view: https://gps.ucsd.edu/_files/faculty/hanson/hanson_publication_immigration_illegal.pdf https://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/gborjas/publications/popular/CIS2013.pdf

IMO this explains the court better: "Fox News host Sean Hannity says it’s no surprise that the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against President Donald Trump and his executive order on immigration. "We have both been predicting for days now the 9th Circuit — the most liberal court of appeals, the most overturned court in the country — it would act this way," Hannity said on his show Feb. 9, speaking with a guest... In our research, we found that the 9th Circuit has a higher-than-average reversal rate, but not the highest. Additionally, experts told us that counting reversals doesn’t necessarily say much about the quality or substance of the 9th Circuit’s work... In fact, the Supreme Court reversed about 70 percent of cases it took between 2010-15. Among cases it reviewed from the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, it reversed about 79 percent. The 9th Circuit’s reversal rate is higher than average, but it’s not the absolute highest among the circuit courts. That distinction goes to the 6th Circuit, which serves Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky and Tennessee, with an 87 percent average between 2010-15. The 9th Circuit is in third place... We also found that the 9th Circuit never had the highest reversal rate in any individual term between 2004-15. (That’s the farthest back we could go.) A spokesperson for Hannity pointed us to a 2014 article in National Review titled, "Ninth Circuit Leading the Pack for ‘Most Reversed.’ " But the evidence presented in the article does not support the headline. So Hannity’s claim that the 9th Circuit is the "most overturned court in the country" is incorrect... This means the Supreme Court generally reverses far less than 1 percent of all the cases the 9th Circuit (and other circuits) decide... While the 9th Circuit has a higher than average reversal rate among cases it sends to the Supreme Court, it has not had the highest rate since at least 2004 (the oldest data point we could find). Even if it did, experts told us that the massive size of the 9th Circuit compared to the handful of cases it sends to the Supreme Court every year make reversal rates an imperfect measure of the quality of the 9th Circuit’s decisions. More broadly, experts say this statistic is a poor way of comparing courts. We rate Hannity’s claim False." http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/feb/10/sean-hannity/no-9th-circuit-isnt-most-overturned-court-country-/ Hannity is a Fox news reporter that started the whole 9th circuit b.s. rouge court story. Too bad its completely misleading. This story was a Fox news originating report. i.e. it was Fox news reporting that started this entire story. Given that its not only wrong but orientated to mislead its viewers to the orientation of the political ideology of the reporter. Its especially egregious.

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Flawed study as the first six are all good, but I'd just as soon leave the last two off the menu.

You do realize there's a good reason most First Ladies don't generally open speeches with prayers; yes? What you call "powerful" a lot of other people consider to be "shameless pandering" and "pretty damn close to violating the establishment clause." There has always been a strong US identity of politicians and presidents to wrap their message around the flag and God. Like NASCAR uses God and the flag to deliver its brand to its market. It frames the message, the group and establishes the messenger as being worthy to speak to the group. To deliver his message. It was a small separation of this when Mitt Romney, a Mormon, brought his message of "GOD" to the voter. "Religious attitudes are often formed early in life and are a continual part of an individual’s social- ization in American culture (Carroll & Roof, 1993; Steensland et al., 2000). One need only think of the frequency with which Christmas and nativity displays are present in public locations and the commonplace structure of public school vaca- tions around Christmas and Easter. Attitudes socialized early in life, in turn, significantly shape social beliefs and attitudes later in life " This saves time, expense and energy for politicians. A independent, atheist would have a difficult time framing his identity and commonness with a US voting block. "According to the Pew Research Center, in 2014, 22.8% of the American population does not identify with a religion, including atheists" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_United_States " In short, even among Americans who may report that they desire less religious language in politics, and who may say they are open to candidates of non- Christian faiths, these Christian religious appeals can have resonance without their awareness" Further reading" https://faculty.washington.edu/agg/pdf/Sheets&al.PolPsych.2011.pdf So even if you don't believe in forgiveness, integrity, honesty, respect for others, compassion, protecting the weak, the injured, the vulnerable. Just use the flag, God and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrk9nJK_lVI

One of the most true things I've seen from you. But the link doesn't work. If you fix it I'll read it! Knock yourself out: http://stobblehouse.com/text/ACIM.pdf

SO what? She married you, so that indicates a lot. What a pompous prick. I could come up with at least a half dozen jokes about you and your X-number of wives, but even I wouldn't stoop so low. This country would be blessed to have your students become only half the piece of donkey shit that you are. . . Oh lighten up. Ron brought her name into the equation as having similar views to himself.

Perhaps "well oiled machine" would be more appropriate. Don Yes well oiled: "According to one source familiar with Priebus’ list, hedge fund manager and campaign bundler Lew Eisenberg will be named ambassador to Italy; Duke Buchan, another Wall Street financier who was among the earliest to bet big on Trump, will be ambassador to Spain; and Georgette Mosbacher, an entrepreneur and Fox News contributor, is likely to serve as ambassador to either Luxembourg or Belgium... "They certainly were not chosen by Tillerson," the source familiar with the list explained. "These were not Tillerson choices at all." According to a source close to Trump's vetting process for ambassadorships, it's not unusual for a president to have a list of big donors and others for plum ambassador jobs, but it is a little unorthodox to be nominating so many ambassadors before other key positions were filled, like deputy secretary jobs. Hillary Clinton, for instance, had more sway in picking the ambassadors when she was secretary of state, but President Barack Obama's top aides also provided a list. .. The ambassadors were not chosen for their diplomatic or foreign policy experience, this person said. "They are political types and donors, the usual suspects for ambassadors," this person said. "The ambassadors are not ‘drain the swamp’ kind of people." http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trump-ignoring-cabinet-235124

For someone who whined and moaned for years about Obama dividing the country, you now seem to think it's a virtue that Trump actively portrays the entire American press corps, and indeed anyone who disagrees with anything that he does, as his enemies. How's that for cognitive dissonance! Yeah, he made himself look stupid in so many different ways they couldn't possibly report them all. Genius. "Cognitive dissonance" would be familiar to anyone who passed a Psy 101 class in college. Populists like trump need a enemy. A boogeyman so to speak in order to formulate the parameters for a group to think they are under attack.To develop a commonness of the group.Defining the collective identity. Cuba and Venezuela used the US for decades and decades. It was convenient for Castro and it was convenient for Chavez. Several enemies can explain almost anything that is unfortunate, distressing or causes progress not to take place. trump had HRC, Obama and the left to blame before. Now he has to invent new ones to focus on like the media and the courts. He is campaigning now because he needs to keep the base in line. Understanding that leaks, the media and the courts have interfered with the groups objectives. He keeps the neo-nazi right wing on board by refusing to condemn antisemitism. The anti-immigration crown by blaming "fifth-column" Islamists, Mexicans, etc. etc. Just as he abandoned "lock-her-up", "the fix is in", "its rigged you know, you know that right", etc. He picks up new ones. Today its the courts and the media. Tomorrow it will be the republican party.

There is something going on with Mr. Ford http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/17/harrison-ford-plane-radio-communication-mistakes-taxiway/ He is going to have to explain to the FAA his cognitive failures in this entire process.

Putin talks like a regular person for one thing. Unlike trump. trump has a style as well: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/02/donald-trump-conflicts-of-interests/508382/ He is trying to get his net worth up from $400 million to Putins worth of http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2017-02-17/vladimir-putin-could-be-worlds-richest-man-with-200-billion-net-worth-report-says

There was an official, might have been Pense? Who gave a speech in front of a crowd of about 6-700 people. At the end of the speech there was an applause of about 50 people. Absolutely embarrassing for whoever it was. The speech involved US assurances to the NATO members there and it involved assurances that the US stood behind NATO.

Completely fair. If he surrounded himself with a CIA director, a economist, someone with dual Presidency WH experience. He could do a reasonable job.

For trump I like to add pandering to the spin equation. Its why you have to concentrate so much when trump speaks. The meandering and sidestepping of answers challenge thinking as to if its spin, fact ,bluster or pandering. Its equally refreshing to hear Senators on the various committees talk. They only get on committees because they tend to set politics aside. As such, they tend to give straight answers to straight questions.

SO what? She married you, so that indicates a lot. Yikes!! On a separate note. There are those who are just are just stepping out of the conflict. Too bad because emigrants are typically the brightest and wealthiest of a country. When war is excluded as a reason for mobility. http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20170216-the-people-moving-to-countries-that-fit-their-politics

From your link: But the familiarity of Mar-a-Lago -- where Trump has long spent winter weekends -- is critical for him, longtime aides said. “I would say it’s keeping him grounded,” said Sam Nunberg, a longtime Trump aide who worked on the campaign. “As a citizen and supporter, I’m very happy to hear he’s going to Mar-a-Lago.” Now that raht thar is funny! I don't care who yeh are! Two good laughs in that equation, good one normiss. trump is off for the weekend to stay "grounded". Another $3-4 million for that mental break from a week where everything is going GREAT.

Can absolutely be true.

Thats a little smug coming from the land of precision and Swiss watches. When the WH is a "fine tuned machine". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlLdDzUyvkA

Yes, yes, and yes. If true Harward has more brains that the rest of the trump sec. council put together. When you take these considerations into account. It makes you question the intelligence of Pense and Priebus. How many times will they be hung out to dry. Made fools of. Before "pressing family matters" cause them to give up the madhouse..er..WH.

Nothing less than bannon pandering to the base. Institute the order, have ICE hand over a couple "examples" for deportation. Then shut it down. All plays good to the trump base. Then cooler heads thought it might be a bad idea and was abandoned. The cooler head remains unidentified. Perhaps the "leaker".

Man, the next four years are gonna be fun on here. According to the doctor: ""He may be a world-class narcissist, but this doesn't make him mentally ill, because he does not suffer from the distress and impairment required to diagnose mental disorder," Frances wrote." But he fails to recognize that a super narcissist, like trump. Can never feel personal distress because his ego overcompensates for his super narcissist behaviors. Sorry almost three dozen doctors trump one. If you'll pardon the pun. A conscious would also be necessary to feel " significant distress or impairment". To the damage he causes to himself, those around him, the country and the world. Clearly his endless tweets about his lack of popularity vr other Presidents, failure to win outright victory at the polls, failures in office with regards to implementation of promises. Recent polling: http://www.people-press.org/2017/02/16/in-first-month-views-of-trump-are-already-strongly-felt-deeply-polarized/ Prove the diagnosis of the 33 professionals.

I'm starting to feel sorry for poor Harrison now.