Phil1111

IMO Joe's comments are not so much anti-religious as anti those who endanger other peoples lives. As far as trump is concerned: Mr. Trump’s Oct. 4 proclamation ordered consular officers to bar immigrants who could not prove they had health insurance or the ability to pay for medical costs once they become permanent residents of the United States. The Trump administration has started denying pleas by non-citizens who are trying to extend their time in the U.S. in order to treat severe medical conditions. Letters issued by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, and obtained by ABC News, tell those applying for medical relief that agency offices, "no longer consider deferred action requests," except for members of the military. The nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation has estimated that 27 million Americans have lost coverage in the pandemic; Both you and trump cloak yourself in the bible. No offense to you but trump has zero credibility for any empathetic values or actions. I will lean in Joe's direction and say that those who endanger other peoples lives should know that actions have consequence. That includes ministers of the church that as leaders allow gatherings without social distancing, masks, and other safety protocols.

Thats agreement twice in a day. My point would be trump is far,far beyond any person's propensity to lie. I have known prison guards who have dealt with inmates with FAS and other serious mental deficiencies. They relayed how some inmates naturally lie, regardless of circumstance, because they falsely perceive some sort of advantage in doing so.

No. Because a moderator won't call out lies. Won't cut off the mike of a candidate lying. Won't berate a candidate for not answering or side stepping the question. Every debate deals with these issues but trump is incapable of giving a straight truthful answer to a straight question. Even under oath.

FIFY. See 5000 points of debate and we have agreement on one!

The only way to have a debate would be to have a large 10'x20' screen behind each candidate. When each lies it lights up with a large LIE and whatever time the candidate wasted with his B.S. lie. Is used to show his past record on the direct subject at hand. Biden has lied a few times in the past. But trump has a quasi-monopoly on it.

The typical US test result time is about 9 days, but who knows? In any event such a high percentage of young people with positive results is disastrous.

trump wants schools reopened. So the YMCA had a summer camp in Georgia with 597 kids attending. All tested negative before attending. Four days later of 1/2 of those who attended were tested.Results showed 44% of the kids and staff who attended were positive.All recommended safety protocols from the CDC sere followed. For trump kids under the bus works as long as re-election is in the cards. Its OK for Mitch McConnell as well.

Nationalist Geographic. The latest from the Lincoln Project.

A dissonance in his cognitive narrative needs address. Probably all mixed up with "Q", perhaps Ron can help.

The head spins about how far integrity, the pillars of American values has fallen.

There is a term called Real dollars Constant or real dollars are terms describing income after adjustment for inflation. The Dictionary of Business and Economics defines constant dollar values and real income as shown below. Constant-dollar value (also called real-dollar value) is a value expressed in dollars adjusted for purchasing power. But that idea is unnecessary because GDP is the measure of all goods and services. The reason why the US economy has not felt the effect of the drop in GDP is because although GDP has dropped by $2.336 trillion the total stimulus budgeted has been about $3 trillion. That includes debt and FED stimulus. So the effect on the economy has been more or less neutral. Now of course the distribution has been very unequal. Some companies and individuals have made off like bandits. Most who got the weekly payments did ok. Some got nothing.

So tweeting to gaslight national elections, to pander treason in his base, in the nation. Was comical? He also tweeted and made a statement about how the litigation arising from the election results would take years.

You're correct he was wrong since the start of the year the US economy has decreased 37.9% "Current‑dollar GDP decreased 34.3 percent, or $2.15 trillion, in the second quarter to a level of $19.41 trillion. In the first quarter, GDP decreased 3.4 percent, or $186.3 billion (table 1 and table 3)... Real gross domestic product (GDP) decreased at an annual rate of 32.9 percent in the second quarter of 2020 (table 1), according to the "advance" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the first quarter, real GDP decreased 5.0 percent." The U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis is your source of accurate and objective data about the nation's economy. BEA is an agency of the Department of Commerce. What We Do BEA's economists produce some of the world's most closely watched statistics, including U.S. gross domestic product, better known as GDP. We do state and local numbers, too, plus foreign trade and investment stats and industry data.

No it was a loyalty litmus test for the GOP. The long knives are not out of their sheaths yet but hands are getting close.

Turtle will be so, so happy. trump has made America number one in the world. The economies of the EU spent far less on stimulus per capital. Yet they still managed to keep the drop in GDP at less than 1/2 of that of the US. Spain at -18.5% of GDP and the whole EU at -12.1%. trump, yeah he can manage the US economy like trump Airlines,trump casinos, trump Steaks, trump Wines, trump University, etc.,etc. More than twice the deaths, more than twice the drop in GDP, MAGA. Oh and don't forget about he $6 trillion in additional debt under the idiot in chief. note: Both references for GDP for the second quarter alone. Further study on how to ruin business and countries: Business Genius Trump Lost More Money Than Anyone in America Between 1985-1994 We valued the president at $3.1 billion a month ago. Now he’s worth $2.1 billion. Here’s why.

Both right. Turning an economy around will not be as simple a a vaccine and away you go.Although the stock market seems to think so.States ,cities and local municipalities have not received funding. They are operating with poor balance sheets. (Turtle), the turnaround necessary to deal with trump bungles will also be a drag on the economy.

Current president V. past presidents. IMO Clinton should have been thrown out.There is a current scandal in Canada and IMO the current P.M. should also be thrown out. If evidence comes forth about sex with underage women involving Bill. LOCK him up. In the meantime the history of US presidents goes back along ways if you're looking for more straws.

Russia will mourn and Putin will reminisce of how he once controlled 3/4 of all the nuclear weapons in the world. How he was the most powerful man who ever lived. Some republicans unfortunately won't get the message. but cheer up, here is the latest from the Lincoln Project. enjoy.

There was a funeral in the US today. Three ex-presidents attended. At John McCain's funeral there was two ex presidents. At trumps there will be none. Imagine the policy from a McCain-Obama government. But thats the past and perhaps a Biden/Rice government can restore America.

Yes but now there seems to be changes arising from the protests. Racists are nervous about that because it shines the light on their ideals. Best to blame outside agitators...like the media. Instead of the silent majority that will soon vote.

Until trump is no longer killing American people and destroying the economy. Until he no longer feeds the gaslighting flame. Expect more.Unlike you I would like America to succeed. To grow a economy that benefits all with healthy, respectful people all pulling on the same rope. You don't seem capable of posting issues arising from trump himself that benefits all Americans. I've challenged you again and again to do so. Good governance arises from policy that benefits all or a national interest. Ideas absent from trump's administration.

Oh, 43 years ago. Way back when the constitution mattered to the GOP. When the GOP stood up because backbones existed and were connected to independent brains within the GOP. Scroll ahead to five minutes ago when trump tweeted about postponing the 2020 election. An executive order to follow?

"A cadre of Republican opponents of President Donald Trump is nonetheless calling for a purifying fire to sweep through the GOP in the fall, taking down not just Trump but as many Republican officeholders as possible. Only this willy-nilly bloodletting will teach the party the hard lesson it needs to learn and mete out the punishment it deserves for accommodating Trump over the past four years. As a Soviet commissar once put it, “We must execute not only the guilty. Execution of the innocent will impress the masses even more.” These Never Trumpers, as my colleague Ramesh Ponnuru puts it, are becoming Never Republicans. Their ranks run from the estimable columnist George Will, to Charlie Sykes of the anti-Trump website The Bulwark, to the operatives of The Lincoln Project, which is now running ads against Republican senators as well as Trump." The above is from an editorial in Politico. Now everyone knows about families that have traditions of supporting one party or another come hell or high water. Military families supporting the GOP as one example. Clearly the damage that trump has done needs to be undone. His trashing of any accountability for the environment. Of the law and of any tax fairness. Of the deficit. IMO trumpism will eventually vanish but the 38% of the population that supported him will still be around. They will still want to wield a disproportionate vote due to the electoral college, gerrymandering, etc. If the lessons of trump stand as a permanent mark on the GOP thats not necessarily bad. But caution about liberal excess is necessary.

The 38%

With trump whipping them all the way. Putin meanwhile will be playing that narrative as hard as he can while smiling about four good years. trump, the worst Russian government ever.