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Just god punishing coal miners for supporting Lucifer.

I hope so a strong and reasoned opposition is necessary to keep government honest. The GOP needs a 1/2 dozen John McCains and Adam Kinzingers. Whats wrong with modern type warriors with a softer side? I take it you haven't seen the new Old Spice commercials.

Only in Derek's Merica

At a local Cabelas the shelves are full of guns and the floor covered with pallets of ammo. I recently bought some new federal .40 S&W for $17USD a box of 50. One effect that the restrictions of Canadian laws have held is that many handguns will sell for 1/2 of what they sell in the US for. Those being "collectable" type guns. When i was 16 i bought a S&W .357 magnum. I remember going out to the pasture and shooting for hours. Now an "approved range" with a permit to transport your restricted gun to and from that range is required. New sporting rifles sell for more than US retail. Ammo has always been available usually its more than US retail.

They just keep repeating it again and again. Then watch FOX for confirmation. In another thread BIGUN suggested that there were new young republicans arising to turn the party around. In fact demographics show the GOP is getting whiter and older. Jeff Flake and other moderates have quit the party. Driven out by the trump revolution. The only moderate in the party, the only one to stand up to trump. Is Adam Kinzinger, a moderate with a backbone and a straight shooter. He is under relentless attack. The new crop of GOP candidates for congress are as nutty as the current. Yes Wendy, mainstream trump voters. You can't tell if their stoned or just so far out there.

I haven't hunted for quite a while and I know there are a few B&C whitetails within 3-5 miles of where I farm.Not one, a few. I don't think you need to be a hunter to buy guns. IMO merely liking guns and wanting to shoot them is enough. As long as they are stored and not used compromise any one else's safety. My favorite range toys are the G3 and HK91. I understand the appeal of a day at the range and lots of ammo. A problem with the gun debate is the moderates in the middle applauding the extreme. Those who know better applauding the "knife", or "colt dragoon" equivalency argument. Its imperative that the most deadly of the range toys be kept away from people that should not own any guns. In mass shooting after mass shooting a AR is the weapon of choice. The mere absence of a felony is a green light to buy. The threshold for purchase should be higher.The AR used in mass shootings by young, usually white, men using lawfully purchased guns of this type. Results in no ideas, no proposals from the pro gun right. BIGUN excepted. No ideas but the parroting of there are enough laws, slippery slope, etc. If gun laws were a slippery slope why have purchases exploded. Yet had no effect on reducing the mass shootings.

In your effort to be concise you omitted the increased actions of republicans to destroy democracy through the vote. To defeat freedom by stealing the vote from anyone who isn't republican. You don't need a gun to overthrow democracy and government. Just steal the election, as all power will flow to the thief.

Welcome back. This is far and beyond any individual post by anyone on this issue. While some of the specific points concede an America thats far too violent and overly vulnerable. It lays out some of the ideas necessary to keep all guns away from those who shouldn't possess them. Yet still allows safe and sane people to own them. On a separate related issue. Decline In Hunters Threatens How U.S. Pays For Conservation Why We Suck at Recruiting New Hunters, Why It Matters, and How You Can Fix It "Hunting participation peaked in 1982, when nearly 17 million hunters purchased 28.3 million licenses. Hunter numbers have steadily declined since. We lost 2.2 million hunters between 2011 and 2016 alone, according to the National Survey of Hunting, Fishing, and Wildlife-­Associated Recreation, a report issued by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. In 2016, just 11.5 million people hunted. That’s less than 4 percent of the national population." Which of course runs counter to the current gun buying, gun licensing, stampede of Americans.

They are generally the best of the pro-gun group. But like Tom Cruise in Top Gun (pardon the pun) he has lost his way. Yeah its called a gun safe. Any responsible gun owner has one. They start at $200 used. You described this properly as fantasy. But the previous ideas coherently cover the basics. Good post.

More attackers with knives have been disarmed by unarmed bystanders than have been shot. Knives are far less lethal and the only mass killing with a knife to kill more than 18 was in Japan and those were disabled adults in a nursing home Typical weak NRA fluff. I'm ready when you have bone behind your salient points. Wendy has brought a better game to a pro gun position than your last few posts. Straight out of FOX. Irrelevant race and religion baiting for its base. Who swallows it up w/o thought. Days before, but stick to picking the rotten cherries. Which would not have penetrated the body armor of the attending officer who was killed. In addition the suspect pumped four bullets into the first man he killed outside the store. How does that fit into your skilled military mind whose analysis suggests such a weapon. IMO so called "assault weapons" could be owned by those who pass the checks and training akin to carry permit possession. The same applies to large capacity magazines. Statistics show that they are far more law abiding and mentally stable than almost any other demographic. But the gun lobby as illustrated in the last 24 hours of posting in this thread. refuses to compromise. Can't seem to author real ideas and BIGUN seems to have gone AWOL in the skilled argument of fact. Laws, like politics operates on a pendulum. Eventually it will swing and very restrictive laws will be enacted. Because the pro gun, GOP refuses to keep guns away those who just should not be near any gun. When the unstable and mentally deranged have their choice. When these young, ignorant, young men decide to attack the innocent. The AR-15 and large capacity magazine is the weapon of choice. Body armor, other than SWAT, becomes irrelevant. The stress of mag changes, irrelevant. Lethality v handgun, no comparison. For gun owners and the well informed on these issues none of this is new. But dancing around the issues, misinformation and deflection. Will continue until its too late for the responsible gun owner. Then it will be the smelter. The question is, will it take 300,000 or 500,000 more innocents to die before that political will forms. i.e. a decade to five decades.

Now the discussion has degenerated to responding to trolling. The weight of his entire post had the weight of a atom. I know you can do better. The US has well armed police, a well equipped reserve with F-16's and the powerful military in the world. To give a like to the post by billeisele is detrimental to your strong reputation of intellectual integrity on this matter. Don't fall back on the nonsensical reasoning's of those who can't find a bone within the issues.

"Moving" is all just talkety talk in the gun forums. Nobody moves just to buy a AR-15, a suppressor, to get a carry permit, etc. I belong to many US gun forums Snipers Hide, Brian Enos, etc. You will never find a rational discussion about gun control in a gun forum.

What non Americans may not recognize is the history and values that some Americans attach to the second amendment. The American revolution, the civil war and a distrust of government. Gave rise in part to it, but it goes beyond that. For many Americans the concept of citizens defeating a dictatorship government through the use of arms. Holding government to account when it attempts to subvert the rights of citizens. Are feelings that run deep. Naturally the title and intent of this thread is designed to address these concepts. But i have to agree with BIGUN. It can all be addressed W/O changes to the constitution. The problem arises in part because of the stacking of the courts. But mostly because the right refuses to negotiate at all. Labeling any change as a "slippery slope". This was laid out by a constitutional professor in a recent US network interview. I'm not that clever to frame such an argument.

More democrats want to use taxpayers money to help the rich escape climate change. California Has A New Idea For Homes At Risk From Rising Seas: Buy, Rent, Retreat "Within the span of a 30-year mortgage, more than $100 billion worth of American homes is expected to be at risk of chronic flooding. As the climate warms and oceans rise,...the 43-year-old Democrat has proposed legislation to create a revolving loan program, allowing California counties and communities to purchase vulnerable coastal properties. The goal would then be to rent those properties out, either to the original homeowner or someone else, and use that money to pay off the loan until the property is no longer safe to live in. " Its nothing less than communism for the rich.

Agree Agree and BIGUN has offered some good insight, comment. What I immediately thought about was the relative education of Black and colored personnel v. whites. By education I mean West Point, US Air Force academy, etc. and other colleges. Then factoring in their military records. I'm sure there are a couple good studies factoring all the variables including race. Naturally the identical study factoring military records, education, etc. including sex of the candidates would be useful.

Perfect sense. When a lawyer submits an affidavit to the court they swear that all that is submitted is true.She supplied all of trump's affidavits. Now she is claiming that she should not be believed for what she says.

Your evidence of such an establishment? Thats a very powerful argument argument against gun controls!

You forgot to mention it was trump and the GOP that invited them there. But a dead cop and a couple others can be ignored. There are new shootings in the news so January 6th is old.

Well certainly trumps wall isn't having any impact is it?

The narrative is 18 dead in two shootings. IMO the number killed by guns in mass shootings is the narrative. AFAIK the Colorado shooter has not been established as a trump supporter. Anti-Asian? he reportedly frequented those establishments and has religious and sexual conflict psychological issues. Does any fact matter to you or is it all a culture war? Is the fact that he is a US citizen relevant? Muslim? Or do facts matter? Of which "anger management issues" is the sole comment you've made in this thread with a basis in fact.

Distract by throwing race and religion into the equation. SOP for the culture war. Wendy, you're too late.

I disagree. He started a thread about a year and a half ago. Whereby at the end of the thread there was agreement from himself, wolfriverjoe, and a few others as to what reasonable legislation should be enacted.

I'll bet they were engineering students!

Easy BIGUN, we all know its a generalization arising from frustration borne of concern. If he wasn't frustrated and didn't care....well you know. To the topic at hand: "Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, the man accused of killing 10 people in a grocery store attack in Colorado, was found guilty of misdemeanor assault when he was a high school senior, and the police in his hometown, Arvada, a suburb of Denver, said they had a separate encounter with him based on a report of “criminal mischief.” According to a police affidavit, just a week ago, he bought a Ruger AR-556 pistol, though it is not clear that was the weapon used in the killings. Students at Arvada West High School recalled Mr. Alissa in interviews as being prone to angry outbursts, and one said that “out of nowhere” he had became enraged and beat up another student during a class — apparently the incident that led to the assault conviction. On Monday, law enforcement officials say Mr. Alissa, 21, who lived in Arvada, went to a King Soopers store in nearby Boulder and killed 10 people." So a man who was violent, short-tempered and paranoid during high school, his former classmates said Tuesday. doesn't preclude purchase of such firearms in Colorado! This story should be read as it outlines who should not own guns.

The NRA is ahead of you already. Its a mental health issue, not a access to guns issue. Meanwhile at the NRA, its executive continue to line the pockets of insiders.