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Non civil service department, everyone out to protect themselves, no safety net, could be fired for any reason without recourse ends up making for a system where the parts that don't work get found really fast, and not hid under the system. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

From my experience it's the exact oposite. No one wants to get caught up in the shit storm brought on by a cop that does stupid shit, and he is outed pretty quickly. Just like the lazy ones that sit in a call too long to avoid other reports, or dodges calls aright around the corner. People get tired of doing all their work and quickly notify others of the situation. Gossip travels fast in the police and fire world, and if your a lazy, stupid, or a dangerous shit bag everyone will know real quick. You get moved to dispatch, the jail, or some other area. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

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There is no fucking woosh, quit crawfishing. You stated Clearly you think there are those out there that need to have something done about how they are doing their job. So how many of the cops are there that need to be dealt with? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

So you said there is an issue, but you dont know if its 1 cop, a dozen cops, or all 600k cops do I have that right. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

How many sources have you provided that back up your argument...None thats how many. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

and just how many are there that you speak of? You wouldn't suggest there is a huge issue without data would you? How could you present a solution without knowing the size of the problem. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

So wheres those documents? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

If you think I am being crazy for not trusting what you said, them prove me wrong. I mean if you want scan some of the police records from the incident and post it here, you can even redact personal info. If they pulled her over so many times there should be a shit ton of paperwork from those stops that you compiled to support harassment. What about the harassment paperwork she submitted that led to the guy being moved, you should have something its all FOIA, go get it for free. I will wait. Please post the published laws the officer broke, and the department regulations also. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

So your only reply was to point out my reply only cited one person thinks that....Is that what you think....That only one person thinks that? If not then why even reply with that comment? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

He shoots from half court annnnddddd.........THREEEEEEEEE!! Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Ive shown you many time you cant compare the US to other countries when it comes to guns and violence. http://people.duke.edu/~gnsmith/articles/myths.htm "Stiff `gun control' laws work as shown by the low crime rates in England and Japan, while U. S crime rates continue to soar." All criminologists studying the firearms issue reject simple comparisons of violent crime among foreign countries. It is impossible to draw valid conclusions without taking into account differences in each nation's collection of crime data, and their political, cultural, racial, religious, and economic disparities. Such factors are not only hard to compare, they are rarely, if ever, taken into account by "gun control" proponents.9 Only one scholar, attorney David Kopel, has attempted to evaluate the impact of "gun control" on crime in several foreign countries. In his book The Samurai, The Mountie and The Cowboy: Should America adopt the gun controls of other democracies?, named a 1992 Book of the Year by the American Society of Criminology, Kopel examined numerous nations with varying gun laws, and concluded: "Contrary to the claims of the American gun control movement, gun control does not deserve credit for the low crime rates in Britain, Japan, or other nations." He noted that Israel and Switzerland, with more widespread rates of gunownership, have crime rates comparable to or lower than the usual foreign examples. And he stated: "Foreign style gun control is doomed to failure in America. Foreign gun control comes along with searches and seizures, and with many other restrictions on civil liberties too intrusive for America. Foreign gun control...postulates an authoritarian philosophy of government fundamentally at odds with the individualist and egalitarian American ethos."10 America's high crime rates can be attributed to re volving-door justice. In a typical year in the U.S., there are 8.1 million serious crimes like homicide, assault, and burglary. Only 724,000 adults are arrested and fewer still (193,000) are convicted. Less than 150,000 are sentenced to prison, with 36,00 0 serving less than a year (U.S. News and World Report, July 31, 1989). A 1987 National Institute of Justice study found that the average felon released due to prison overcrowding commits upwards of 187 crimes per year, costing society approximately $430, 000. Foreign countries are two to six times more effective in solving crimes and punishing criminals than the U.S. In London, about 20% of reported robberies end in conviction; in New York City, less than 5% result in conviction, and in those cases imprisonment is frequently not imposed. Nonetheless, England annually has twice as many homicides with firearms as it did before adopting its tough laws. Despite tight licensing procedures, the handgun-related robbery rate in Britain rose about 200% duri ng the past dozen years, five times as fast as in the U.S. Part of Japan's low crime rate is explained by the efficiency of its criminal justice system, fewer protections of the right to privacy, and fewer rights for criminal suspects than exist in the United States. Japanese police routinely search citizens at will and twice a year pay "home visits" to citizens' residences. Suspect confession rate is 95% and trial conviction rate is over 99.9%. The Tokyo Bar Association has said that the Japanese police routinely "...engage in torture or illegal treatment. Even in cases where suspects claimed to have been tortured and their bodies bore the physical traces to back their claims, courts have still accepted their confessions." Neither the powers and secrecy of the police nor the docility of defense counsel would be acceptable to most Americans. In addition, the Japanese police understate the amount of crime, particularly covering up the problem of organized crime, in order to appear more efficient an d worthy of the respect the citizens have for the police. Widespread respect for law and order is deeply ingrained in the Japanese citizenry. This cultural trait has been passed along to their descendants in the United States where the murder ratef or Japanese-Americans (who have access to firearms) is similar to that in Japan itself. If gun availability were a factor in crime rates, one would expect European crime rates to be related to firearms availability in those countries, but crime rat es are similar in European countries with high or relatively high gun ownership, such as Switzerland, Israel, and Norway, and in low availability countries like England and Germany. Furthermore, one would expect American violent crime rates to be more sim ilar to European rates in crime where guns are rarely used, such as rape, than in crimes where guns are often used, such as homicide. But the reverse is true: American non-gun violent crime rates exceed those of European countries. 9 Wright, et al ., Under the Gun: Weapons, Crime and Violence in America (N.Y.: Aldine, 1983). 10 Kopel, "The Samurai, The Mountie, and the Cowboy: Should America adopt the gun controls of other democracies?' (Buffalo, N.Y.: Prometheus Books, 1992), 431-32. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

It may be real life, but its a one sided story presented by you used to shore up your argument with no supporting outside evidence. Therefore I have no comment as I have nothing to go off of but your word, so I chose to leave it alone. I could come back with a made up story used to support my side with no evidence. We would be both left here spinning our wheels. The high road. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

MYTH 3:"Since a gun in a home is many times more likely to kill a family member than to stop a criminal, armed citizens are not a deterrent to crime." This myth, stemming from a superficial "study" of firearm accidents in the Cleveland, Ohio, area, represents a comparison of 148 accidental deaths (including suicides) to the deaths of 23 intruders killed by home owners over a 16-year period. 2 Gross errors in this and similar "studies"--with even greater claimed ratios of harm to good--include: the assumption that a gun hasn't been used for protection unless an assailant dies; no distinction is made between handgun and long gun deaths; all accidental firearm fatalities were counted whether the deceased was part of the "family" or not; all accidents were counted whether they occurred in the home or not, while self-defense outside the home was excluded; almost half the self-defense uses of guns in the home were excluded on the grounds that the criminal intruder killed may not have been a total stranger to the home defender; suicides were sometimes counted and some self-defense shootings misclassified. Cleveland's experience with crime and accidents during the study period was atypical of the nation as a whole and of Cleveland since the mid-1970s. Moreover, in a later study, the same researchers noted that roughly 10% of killings by civilians are justifiable homicides. 3 The "guns in the home" myth has been repeated time and again by the media, and anti-gun academics continue to build on it. In 1993, Dr. Arthur Kellermann of Emory University and a number of colleagues presented a study that claimed to show that a home with a gun was much more likely to experience a homicide.4 However, Dr. Kellermann selected for his study only homes where homicides had taken place--ignoring the millions of homes with firearms where no harm is done--and a control group that was not representative of American households. By only looking at homes where homicides had occurred and failing to control for more pertinent variables, such as prior criminal record or histories of violence, Kellermann et al. skewed the results of this study. Prof. Kleck wrote that with the methodology used by Kellermann, one could prove that since diabetics are much more likely to possess insulin than non-diabetics, possession of insulin is a risk factor for diabetes. Even Dr. Kellermann admitted this in his study: "It is possible that reverse causation accounted for some of the association we observed between gun ownership and homicide." Law Professor Daniel D. Polsby went further, "Indeed the point is stronger than that: 'reverse causation' may account for most of the association between gun ownership and homicide. Kellermann's data simply do not allow one to draw any conclusion."5 Research conducted by Professors James Wright and Peter Rossi,6 for a landmark study funded by the U.S. Department of Justice, points to the armed citizen as possibly the most effective deterrent to crime in the nation. Wright and Rossi questioned over 1,800 felons serving time in prisons across the nation and found: 81% agreed the "smart criminal" will try to find out if a potential victim is armed. 74% felt that burglars avoided occupied dwellings for fear of being shot. 80% of "handgun predators" had encountered armed citizens. 40% did not commit a specific crime for fear that the victim was armed. 34% of "handgun predators" were scared off or shot at by armed victims. 57% felt that the typical criminal feared being shot by citizens more than he feared being shot by police. Professor Kleck estimates that annually 1,500-2,800 felons are legally killed in "excusable self-defense" or "justifiable" shootings by civilians, and 8,000-16,000 criminals are wounded. This compares to 300-600 justifiable homicides by police. Yet, in most instances, civilians used a firearm to threaten, apprehend, shoot at a criminal, or to fire a warning shot without injuring anyone. Based on his extensive independent survey research, Kleck estimates that each year Americans use guns for protection from criminals more than 2.5 million times annually. 7 U.S. Department of Justice victimization surveys show that protective use of a gun lessens the chance that robberies, rapes, and assaults will be successfully completed while also reducing the likelihood of victim injury. Clearly, criminals fear armed citizens. 2 Rushforth, et al., "Accidental Firearm Fatalities in a Metropolitan County, " 100 American Journal of Epidemiology 499 (1975). 3 Rushforth, et al., "Violent Death in a Metropolitan County," 297 New England Journal of Medicine 531, 533 (1977). 4 Kellermann, et al., "Gun Ownership as a Risk Factor for Homicide in the Home," New England Journal of Medicine 467 (1993). 5 Polsby, "The False Promise of Gun Control," The Atlantic Monthly, March 1994. 6 Wright and Rossi, Armed and Considered Dangerous: A Survey of Felons and Their Firearms (N.Y.: Aldine de Gruyter, 1986). 7 Kleck, interview, Orange County Register,Sept. 19, 1993. http://people.duke.edu/~gnsmith/articles/myths.htm Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Once again, I will say properly selected, trained, supervised and alert guards are better than nothing. Also action is faster than reaction. This guard was probably properly trained, and selected being from the Interior Ministry’s special unit, and not just some off the street Joe, but being complacent can kill you. Look at Chris Kyle. During Chris's career on different occasions he was the one surprised and had things such as a brick wall suddenly blown up on him by an rpg, was shot multiple times off guard in his helmet, and body armor, had a building almost fall down on him when a grenade was dropped in the room. Despite all that he was still able to kill 255 people with witnesses which met STRICT ROE under very tight observation of Jag and other lawyers who were monitoring him due to his success. A few times he was caught off guard, but many times he caught the enemy off guard. Ultimately he was killed by someone he was trying to help. So how can this decorated war vet who had a clear documented history of being able to stop bad guys from killing others get killed himself? He was caught off guard in a situation where the thought was safe and there were no threats. Most armed guards in the states are a joke, but that does not mean the idea of armed guards or citizens is a joke and cannot be a success. [/url]http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/09/us/armed-guards-investigation/[url] CNN did a story on this. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Not a single person here is saying its always going to work, Quade is the one saying it would NEVER would have made a difference. Just because you are "trained, and armed" doesn't mean your alert and ready. The average "tracer security" person that your alleging to be a commando ready for the fight as a armed and trained security guard couldn't get a job at a best buy if they wanted to. The fact remains that there are documented incidents where it saved lives, vs the anti-gun solution of never having any guns means 100% it would have never saved lives. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

This guy was totally taken off guard and had a gun in his face, and he was still able to be the victor. http://i.imgur.com/hf0oiht.gif There was ongoing discussions online yesterday about the pictures taken of the attackers by regular citizens. And the fact that if you have time to realize, pull out your camera phone, turn on the camera app, and snap a few pictures, you could have engaged the person. See the attached pics Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

No it indicated a lack of information which you provided for me to come to any sort of opinion on, and general lack of interest in doing so anyways. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Lets ask him. Quade, you say that no one has come for the guns, you even put it out that the NRA thinks someone is coming for ALL guns. I doubt anyone with the NRA thinks that. Have you actually seen the past proposals for weapon restrictions? The ignorant features they say a weapon could not have that makes it an assault weapon? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Same thing I was thinking, has quade even seen the types of bans and restriction different government and private groups have proposed action against? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Once again your taking it literally as I have explained before. Consciously not holding things if you do not have to in your gun hand is not being paranoid. Your taking it as the guy NEVER ever touches anything in his gun hand, he doesn't even piss or wipe with it, which is absurd. What he was trying to say i think which has been taught to all officers is to keep your hands free and at the ready if at all possible. Just like you keep your shirt tucked in so it does not flip up on a jump and you cant reach your handles. We still wear shirts, and still have handles, we have just found a way to make sure its readily accessible. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

You certainly can its America, but your just further spinning the thread off into the nether by continuing to run with the played out joke started about the guy not holding things in his hand which was taken out of context by someone taking it too literally or just trolling sarcastically. Either way its your right to do it, as its my right to comment on its overuse. 73 Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Thats exactly what I fucking posted when you deleted it. I get your point in trying to kill his thread. With that said. I will state it again. Do the protesters want dead cops 2 weeks from now with or without body armor on..... Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Will there be more dead cops in 2 weeks despite the wearing of body armor as the protesters have demanded? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,