Anvilbrother

I answered your questions, either you did not read them, or you did not like the answers I gave, either way deal with it. -post #221 Im not saying BOOO free speech, and im not saying YAYY terrorism -post #229 Is free speech good HELL YEA, is terrorism bad FUCK YEA, did he deserve to die NOPE, but there are consequences to your actions. -Post #235 Yea I skipped it because to my knowledge James and Peter were not over there burning the Quran, or drawing inciteful pictures of Mohammad, so its a fucking useless topic to address as it has no comparison to what happened in France. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Yea I know now. I have watched zero tv, or listened to zero radio on this shooting only read, and it always referred to Charlie, or Charlie Hebdo shooting easy to see how the business name could be humanized. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Yea I skipped it because to my knowledge James and Peter were not over there burning the Quran, or drawing inciteful pictures of Mohammad, so its a fucking useless topic to address as it has no comparison to what happened in France. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Excuse me, I thought there was an actual person named Charlie involved in it also, I did not google everyone that worked there, or died. The name Charlie Hebdo is being thrown out there by every media, im sure I am not the only one. Im not an expert on bigoted comics like you seem to be. From above me See its not just me. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Im not the only one saying this, Charlie knew what he was doing and the consequences of his actions. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2900519/Cartoonists-mocked-Islam-refused-threatened-Quranic-law-killed-Charlie-Hebdo-massacre-terrorists-asked-name.html I do have to make a correction it was Charbonnier not charlie that said this but it clearly doccuments that they knew what they were doing, and what could happen if they were to continue. You missed the part where I have stated many times already in this thread that Terrorism is not right, what they did was not right, and he did not deserve to die. Charlie was the equivalent of a comic troll attacking the Muslim religion, and I guess I should accept that fact that other trolls will cover for his actions. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

A simplified inciteful remark without taking in the variables as expected. Norm if you were in a bar and you kept saying Jesus is a faggot to the psycho catholic asshole in the corner, and he told you he has a gun and he will kill you if you keep it up, and you do, and he shoots you dead. You got what you asked for. Did you deserve it no, but you.....got.....what....you....asked....for. Plain and simple. -They had a history of drawing these. -Its well known world wide that Muslims freak out about it. -He had death threats before -It was credible enough to warrant GOVERNMENT security -He replied with saying he was ready to die if that's what it took, he had no family, no children, and had horrible credit. He got what he was asking for. Is free speech good HELL YEA, is terrorism bad FUCK YEA, did he deserve to die NOPE, but there are consequences to your actions. Because this guy is being played off as a martyr for free speech hes being played as a hero, here is a quote of what other writers thought of his writing, Someone else stood up to the Muslims stating that "We must send a clear message to the radical element of Islam. We will no longer be controlled and dominated by their fears and threats." His name was Terry Jones, and just about every one here called him an idot. Why wasnt he cheered for his attempt to stand up to Muslim extremist?? He was going to burn a Quaran, how much different is that to constantly drawing disrespectful pictures of Mohammad? I will point you all to that thread and show you how two faced the people here are being about this. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3944285;search_string=quran;#3944285 Grimmie-I'm all for freedom of speech, but this is yelling "FIRE" in a theater. Andy9o8-No, it's freedom of speech. But he is a vile fuckwad. Normiss-Sadly, it was the lead story on ABC national news tonight. I can only hope that was his only 5 minutes, but I doubt it. Skydeker-Because you can blame multiple people or organizations for the same incident. Nobody is forcing him to burn the Koran, just as nobody will force him not to burn the Koran. If he decides to burn the Koran, it may come with the price of a soldier. Billvon-Oh, I bet there are plenty of bigots across the US who will support him 100% Skydekker-I don't think they should be held responsible. I do think both parties would have some responsibility towards the outcome. Like a skydiving death, there is usually a chain of events leading up to it. If you remove one item of that chain, the end result will be different. Situations like this are very similar. Actions (legal or not) have consequences. Every right comes with a price. In this case the right to burn the Koran may well have the price of an American or Canadian soldier. The best part FORESHADOWING what can happen!! Skyrad-Bottom line is that this clown Jones has a constitutional right to burn the book under freedom of speech, however with rights come responsibilities. With actions come reactions. By burning the Quran he will be directly responsible for the deaths of other Americans, maybe even his own. Not saying I support that, its just a fact waiting to happen. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

You would be right, because that is an argument only brought up to incite others, be insensitive to some, and has no fucking place in this argument. It doesnt even contain enough variables to be a comparison to the Charlie incident. Answer this. Are you saying that Charley was making comics that were offensive to Muslims, ONLY to sell comics to a bunch of neck beard, 4chan loving bigots, and was in no way trying to incite Muslims? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Looked more like a behalfing to me. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Bullshit Charley knew what he was doing. He wasn't printing religiously insensitive comics to "friends that like religiously insensitive comics". He already got death threats, even made the statement hes ready to die he has no family, bills, or children, and the government had them under security it got so bad. They just kept kicking the growling dog. Im not saying BOOO free speech, and im not saying YAYY terrorism, but Charley got what he was asking for, and incited the terrorist to do what they did which got others killed. Criminally liable probably not, civilly liable could be, morally liable you bet your ass he is. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Yea they broke down at the door, and decided to just go old western shoot out on them. If that guy that came out was strapped with explosives he could have taken them all out. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

True but no one in their right mind would go to Compton, or some bad part of New York and start screaming the N word to every black person they see and expect nothing to happen to them. There is consequences to free speech as great as it is. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Love it, I wish the thread title would automatically change with the topic. A tax system tilted toward the rich----Its all Bush's fault. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

You mean like lawmakers that are immune from traffic violations while in session, and have staff that handle all their correspondence so you never actually know if you are in touch with them, staff, or a robot with autopen. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

On a percentage chance that it would affect Americans I would say the local, state, and federal politician would be more on my list of worries. Sure they cant shoot you, well Dick Cheney could, and Romney advocates his wife blasting a few warning shots out his back door, but the chance that the local cop would is like %0.000014 or somthing as calculated by lawrocket(?) iirc is almost %0. If you wanna talk corruption, breaking laws, and infringing on peoples rights I would start there. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Its an American dominated forum discussing a dozen(?) people dead thousands of miles away, how hard are you expecting this to rock our base? The discussion went from shock and awe, to condolences, then to what if it would have happened here. I would imagine that to be that way everywhere. Its not like there was a France 9/11 that knocked down the eiffel tower as sad even one loss can be. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Is it possible that its not as bad as everyone is making it out to be? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

I know im agreeing with you. It was clear as day he was having sex with her, but it wasnt something as lite as buying beer, but he was able to plead down to it. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

The dude was getting it on with her its clear as day, he pleaded down to that charge. He was guilty, and the charge is the same, but the dude wasn't doing something as innocent as buying someone beer, which he probably was doing also. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

They can say what they want this is Amazon on speed right here with included PA's for all the wrong people. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Here is a good talk about CCW and the shooting, and why the armed police were possibly taken so easy. This guy is a retired Lt.Col and has deployed in every theater of operations since 1992. He also admits faults of Americans for those left that want to salivate over a pro gun guy from utah saying that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Vf2r7-xTI Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

saved for later :edit Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

On the plus side you wont need hearing protection while your shooting back Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Another thing I forgot to point out the activist and reporter both shot an unarmed guy without even taking a punch. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Awesome link I wish more clueless protest leaders would take that same training, he shit himself when the blanks went off. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

See the thing is that that is your perception based off of movies, or a couple remote real world incidents. In real life I and every cop I have worked for or with are not gonna risk going to jail or loose my job covering up for you because we were both on the same call and I saw you pistol whip some homeless guy, or steal something out of a business while on an alarms call. Just like the shootings it's not a rampant out of control situation your led to believe. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,