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NORMISS WROTE: also jail people who let someone who is have a gun I never said that, whatever it is. From your own post.... Here is my problems with the answer to your solutions. Stricter penalties for illegal gun sales. Already stated stricter laws do not deter criminals or crazy people Nutter database included with background check. Diagnosis or current treatment? No pew pew. Agreed New diagnosis? See above, same issue, same answer.\ Not the same issue not the same answer. One is just a denial, the other is forfeiture of weapons that could be spread across many places. Who is in charge of gathering them, do the cops get a search warrant to tear up your house, your car, your work, your vehicles? When do you get those guns back? Never? What happens to them? Do you get compensated? Its not your fault you went crazy but gun collections can be tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars. What about your family members do they give up their rights to own firearms also even if they are locked in a safe only they know the combination to? ETC....ETC....ETC.. ALL personal sales and transfers, again I say, must be completed at the cop shop (or a gun shop would work if all are checked) 50 of the 61 mass shooters in this study from 1982-2012 did the shootings with legally obtained weapons so that does not stop the mass shootings either http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/18/11-essential-facts-about-guns-and-mass-shootings-in-the-united-states/ Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

How does that specifically stop the next mass murder? Obviously no one would be there to oppose the government from passing anything they wished, but what laws would then be passed with them not there? I want specifics ideas about what you would then pass. Good to see Germany step in here with your great ideas, where is your sidekick and funjumper101 with the next amazing answer? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Well enlighten us with the rest of them then. I will say that the point you brought up about a nationwide database of persons who a professional mental health doctor has diagnosed as not being able to have a gun should exist, and enforced. What are the other solutions from you I missed that you said you have already stated in this thread? Things you suggested -make laws have more stringent penalties and put more people in jail Stricter laws do not work if that were the case people would never make it to their third strike knowing the harshness of the next level -don't let people with confirmed mental illnesses have guns Great point I like this one now how do you ensure they have no guns once you have the registered ones -revoke gun rights for those who have new diagnosis. Who exactly is in charge of this? - also jail people who let someone who is have a gun How do we go about this exactly? Things you have not addressed -guns the authorities did not know the person had -street bought guns -straw purchases -stealing firearms -normal legally owned firearm holders who instantly snap over a spontaneous situation(rape/divorce/fired/etc) with no previous criminal or mental illness. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Don't ask me ask normiss he's the one coming up with the answers. Or at least he tried and then stopped. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

I did your solutions are. -make laws have more stringent penalties and put more people in jail -don't let people with confirmed mental illnesses have guns -revoke gun rights for those who have new diagnosis. - also jail people who let someone who is have a gun Am I missing anything? Please tell me if I am... Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Type them out here for us all to see. Tell us what would could we do to end mass shootings. No one has time to research your thousands of posts to get an whole outlook on your "views". List it out man let's hear it. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

I'm saying we can do better, so what are the answers tell us TK what do you propose we do to stop mass shootings. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

See the updated signature for people who can't stay on topic and are forced to insults. Care to get back on topic and actually maybe do some good here or are you still applying ointment from burn I gave your last fix to the mass shooting problem? Let's hear it. Fix the problem anyone...anyone.. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Unlike norm which has already diverted off topic to the grammar nazi tactic. I am identifying the issues, and offering the chance at proposing solutions, and discussing them. Not defending anything pro gun, not arguing about the past politics, not bringing up any of the usual shit stirring responses or tactics. Sure we can identify and propose solutions to more than one problem at a time. You deal with it as it comes. As shown above he wanted to stop people with mental illnesses from having them, I identified problems with that theory, and wait replies as how to fix those. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Your so pissed your putting words into my mouth that I never said lmao!.. But please stop its a childish way to discuss things. I am defending nothing. People here say we always defend the other side after these kinds of things and stonewall and argue. I am giving anyone the keys to the city to propose a solution, and so far it's putting more people in jail. I'm the one doing good here. So that your plan to prevent these shootings, because it doesn't stop. -guns the authorities did not know the person had -street bought guns -straw purchases -stealing firearms -normal legally owned firearm holders who instantly snap over a spontaneous situation(rape/divorce/fired/etc) with no previous criminal or mental illness. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

I think Amy is funny and cute. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

So your only answer to stop mass shootings is make penalties harder for illegal possession putting more people in jail. And you have no options for what is to be done about mental illness . As much as you complain about it I sure as hell would figure you would have all the answers if only we would just listen to you. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

No what would you do to prevent this from happening again. Not this incident I am talking mass shootings across the U.S.. RIGHT now you are the person in charge go! What is the solution? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

What would you have fixed? What EXACTLY would you do that would prevent this? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Do you even know how many gun laws and stipulations there are to get a gun on all governmental levels? We have done a LOT! More laws will not stop this. Only minimize it to some degree like billvon said Look back at some of the past shootings, and they have been the ones he is talking about. A person who met the requirements to legally own a gun but snapped in the head with no warning to those around them just like the recent church shooting. If you come to me with a problem, you better have a solution, so what is your solution? Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

That wont stop this from happening. -You will never get enough guns off American soil -Criminals do not follow laws Even if you do have a perfect database of mentally ill, and instant automatic revocation of gun rights for people diagnosed you will still have those that billvon described below in the military shotting thread that you cannot prevent. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Agree 100% Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

It might not be the most accurate thing, but I did find it interesting, and would love to see others results too. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

https://www.isidewith.com It would be neat if everyone did it and posted a screenshot of the two results like I did. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

And here is how I side on the most common issues. Not sure how accurate these things are but the questions hit on almost every hot topic I could think of. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Tell me intent of this poll wasn't to capture some trump votes and use it as fuel for some argument against the GOP. I saw the writing on the wall in the other thread. I took a pretty good test the other day to see who I aligned with against all canidates in the race. Gun to my head from the people on this poll I would probably go Rubio. Also check out the ideology results. I'm not a far left or right anything. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

I know all you liberals are just gonna click trump hop on alts, click trump again and be like oooohhhh see they do like trump they all voted for him here....... How about one vote, and one reply as to who you voted for to make it legit. Any votes with no reply get thrown out. Or at least call out the trump voters. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Point understood. Well said thanks. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

As long as people look back and are happy with no regrets, that is about all you can ask for. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,

Yes.. and actually served my country for 8 years and in exchange could afford a pretty good education..... which has paid huge dividends over the last 35 years. That education did not allow you to find the fountain of youth or make a time machine did it, because your still old! Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along,