StreetScooby

What public shooting ranges do you go to? We are all engines of karma

As has been discussed in other threads, it's not UK laws. It's their implementation that's the issue. We are all engines of karma

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Ah, so this argument has now boiled down to semantics. To be a country, you must have a formal government, which the Palestinians didn't have. But, they did have a homeland in which they raised their families. This homeland was supposed to be protected by the British Mandate, but wasn't. That's what I'm seeing, now. We are all engines of karma

How are you defining country? Would the Palestinians agree with that definition? We are all engines of karma

If you're a convicted felon, your DNA goes into the law enforcement database. We are all engines of karma

Very interesting read. Thanks for posting it. We are all engines of karma

Excellent idea, Bill. I would support this. We are all engines of karma

I can see my point hasn't been communicated clearly. In simple terms, my question is: When there is change in our thoughts, especially those thoughts driven by free will, what are the reservoirs of energy involved? Are they inside the body, or outside the body? If you feel they're inside the body, we're worm food waiting to happen. If you feel they're not contained completely within the body, what are they? We don't know. That's were God comes into this, and it comes into play better as a verb rather than a noun, IMO. No argument. The only thing we have to go on is the 1st Law of Thermo, and self observation. We are all engines of karma

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There is no way I would let anyone take a sample of my child's DNA and leave it in a "govt database". I build software systems for a living. Mistakes are GOING to happen when govt officials start putting data into databases. And those mistakes are going to be very painful for the people involved in them. We are all engines of karma

By saying clear victor, I'm not saying we need to kill them all. Being a clear victor could be something like successfully moving away from an oil based economy. At least this would deny the money people funding for continued violence, at least at their current levels. We are all engines of karma

So, with these skills, you get your kids out of trouble? To be honest, I don't know what to do, either. I'd prefer to buy them all TVs and show them Baywatch. I think it would be cheaper in the long run. We are all engines of karma

So, what do we do now? We are all engines of karma

I agree that would be a better position than where we are now. We are all engines of karma

And where would have opinions like your's gotten us? We are all engines of karma

I'm specifically referring to violence already inflicted upon us. I am not referring to the Iraq conflict, or the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, though those are serving as prime opportunties for continued violence upon our country in the here-and-now. We are in a culture clash, in my opinion. By we, I mean America, my country. I don't think that's a general concensus in this country, and it worries me. We need to be smarter in how we're dealing with radical Muslims, and those that support them. And, yes, in my opinion, that will involve inflicting violence on those who would inflict violence upon us. That should also include persons who financially support others who would inflict violence upon us. We need to be the clear victors here. It's going to come to that, sooner or later. We are all engines of karma

Why let there be continued blood shed on both sides? We are all engines of karma

Agreed, that not every conflict needs to be resolved. Every conflict where there is continued violence does need to be resolved. And, a clear winner needs to emerge. We are all engines of karma

Ah, now I understand your question. And an excellent one it is. The simple answer is - I don't know. The thought "Benevolent Dictator" sprang to mind, but that's just too magical an expectation. We are all engines of karma

Agreed. Not every conflict on this planet can be resolved through discussion. There are those where a clear winner must emerge, if it's to end. We are all engines of karma

Your profile makes it difficult for me to asses "my audience" in this reply. FYI. I'm going to give it my best shot. Thanks again for your input. All the evidence I'm aware of does indeed suggest that brain function is chemically based. Sounds reasonable. Is all of your evidence medical-literature based? By evidence, do you mean "reproducible observations"? Not that I'm advocating these as generally valid observations, but there is a whole body of "reproducible observations" in what is generally classifed as "occult literature". Nor does it mean that any such "resevoirs" do exist. Agreed 100%. All I've done in my life learnings at this point in time is - learn to deal with the uncertainty of life. I'm still working on it, actually. God is NOT "someone" who is going to look out after me if I pray to it. It's a verb, a flow. You're in that flow. Learn to look out after yourself in the "now". Don't hit the big rocks. Yep, I have most definitely postulated something for which I have no reproducible observations. Can you point me to some literature here to support your statement, even if it's your own? Thanks. There's also alot of "evidence" that can be claimed to support the "postulation". BTW, I prefer the word assert over postulate, though I wish there was a word in between those two. And now you're asserting that this unknown resevior interacts with your brain somehow and the net result is free will? Even though you don't know if this resevior even exists? I don't advise a haircut, man. All hairdressers are in the employment of the government. Hairs are your aerials. They pick up signals from the cosmos, and transmit them directly into the brain. This is the reason bald-headed men are uptight. - Danny, Withnail and I. It's the change in your thoughts, specifically those thoughts driven by free will, by which we tend to interact with those "unknown reservoirs of energy". No. We already have free will. It's the one thing I believe will continue to exist after my current body's death. It's free will that drives the change, or lack thereof, in your thoughts. Yep. It's better than viewing myself as worm food Sounds a bit like Aristotle's luminiferous Ether which was shot down in the 19th century by Michelson and Morley. Not to compare myself to Aristotle, but actually I'm kinda looking for my Michelson and Morley. With little success, so far, I might add Just another reason why I've thrown this out here. Did you mean to say dependent? Why just free will interactions? What happens if I involuntarily get hit by a bus? Exactly. God is a flow. Each and every person is their own unique reservoir of energy, as made by God. It's a beautiful thing. Powerful how? Oops. I jumped a bit ahead of myself. We're not their, yet. Or maybe science hasn't been successful in proving your point because there's no evidence of a brain/luminiferous Ether interaction? You're right. Reproducible observations in this area simply aren't "there" yet. All I've described here is my attempt to reconcile God and my understanding of science. FYI - I was raised in a fundamentalist Christian church in the deep south. My goal until I was 16 was to be a Southern Baptist preacher. Then, I went to college, and was taught Thermodynamics. You're right. I have no supporting evidence/reproducible observations. Other than a couple of OBEs, and discussions with others who've had similar experiences. And, here we are We are all engines of karma

>That everyone but us is incapable of self-government? No. We as Americans must begin to realize that the world is not full of reasonable people. We are all engines of karma

You make it sound like the world is full of reasonable people. It's not, Bill. Far from it. That's why we're at this point in the Earth's history. We, as Americans, must start seeing this as the case. Only then will we be able to deal with this potentially long term conflict effectively. We are all engines of karma