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Oh thats so kind of you john. Always wanting to keep our heads warm. You are such a sweetheart.

I never said they were. But this goes to show how misguided the liberal gun control train has become. 4% of all firearms related deaths were with rifles...all rifles. I'm sure if broken down even more assault rifles account for less than 1.5%. Its like assesing blame on a wheel that flew off the car and hit and killed someone when the driver was drunk and caused the wheel to fly off in the first place.

(CNN) -- Trent Brewer drove to a parking lot, planning to sell some weed. The transaction never happened. Police in Springfield, Missouri, found Brewer, 23, face-down in a pool of his own blood with no pulse on December 12. He was declared dead at a nearby hospital. Police say Darian Earl Hall, 18, pulled out a chrome semi-automatic handgun before the sale could happen, and opened fire on Brewer as he began to run away. Hall has denied shooting Brewer, blaming another teen who was with him at the time. What exactly happened will eventually be settled in court. Brewer's story follows a familiar pattern: drugs, an escalating confrontation and the presence of a gun leading to a death. *** Beatriz Cintora-Silva took refuge at her sister's home immediately after telling police in Longmont, Colorado, that her ex-boyfriend had kidnapped her, threatened her and threw her into a car dashboard. It was Saturday, December 16. The next day, police arrested Daniel Sanchez, 31, who spent Sunday night in jail. Six hours after Sanchez left the Boulder County jail, a call came into 911: "No, no, no, please, no," Cintora-Silva said on the call. Gunfire rang out and the phone went silent. Then, Sanchez picked up the phone. "I just shot everyone right now," he said, according to a recording of the 911 call. "You just shot everybody?" the dispatcher asked. Sanchez calmly replied "Yeah." She asked for his name, but he didn't answer. "I'm going to shoot myself right now," Sanchez said on the recording. The dispatcher pleaded with him. It didn't matter. The line went dead. Sanchez had shot and killed Cintora-Silva, her sister and her sister's husband before killing himself with one of the most deadly weapons in the United States. It wasn't an AR-15, or an assault rifle -- it was a Glock .45-caliber handgun. America's most deadly firearm Trent Brewer and Beatriz Cintora-Silva are among the more than 6,000 people killed each year by handguns. That's like having a massacre on the scale of Newtown 239 times during one year. Yet, as the Obama administration moves forward with legislation to stem the toll of gun violence in America, the focus has been on curbing access to high-powered rifles and large-capacity magazines, not the common handguns that account for the majority of gun deaths in America. Last week, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, stood in front of an array of assault rifles and semi-automatic weapons and outlined her proposed legislation to reinstitute an assault weapons ban, as well as outlaw ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. But even if these proposals make it through to legislation, what impact will they have on stemming the deaths by America's most deadly firearm? Despite the National Rifle Association's assertion that Feinstein and other Democrats are taking steps toward outlawing all guns, no lawmaker is calling for a ban on the legal purchase of handguns. These common firearms, which account for the majority of gun-related violence in America but are also used for self-defense, are fully protected by the Second Amendment, according to a 2008 Supreme Court ruling. Speaking Monday before a meeting with police chiefs and sheriffs from across the country, Obama said he understands that America's gun violence problem runs deeper than the mass shootings that trigger international headlines. "I welcome this opportunity to work with (law enforcement), to hear their views in terms of what will make the biggest difference to prevent something like Newtown or Oak Creek from happening again," the president said. "But many of them also recognize that it's not only the high-profile mass shootings that are of concern here, it's also what happens on a day-in-day-out basis in places like Chicago or Philadelphia, where young people are victims of gun violence every single day." There are three main ways that Obama's plan could indirectly stem the toll of handgun violence: • increasing access to mental health services • lifting restrictions on federally funded research on gun violence • extending background checks before the purchase of a gun It's unclear if any of these proposals would have affected the outcome of the Springfield, Missouri, drug deal that claimed the life of 23-year-old Trent Brewer. But in domestic violence incidents, like the one that killed Beatriz Cintora-Silva, even something as simple as considering an accuser's mental state could make a difference, according to CNN's mental health expert Dr. Charles Raison. For example, if police detained accused abusers for a longer time, would that allow for a cooling off period and a decreased chance of violence? "The only way to interrupt (violent incidents) is to lock up and intervene tons and tons of times, where everyone who exhibits symptoms is locked up," said Raison, an associate professor of psychiatry at the University of Arizona in Tucson. "But then as a society, where do we want to strike a balance between personal freedom and intervening to stop the high rate of violent acts?" Who do you think should have guns? Despite all his concerns, Raison said he finds the discussion about opening up access to mental health services promising, but also "an extremely slippery slope." According to the FBI, 6,220 people were killed by handguns in 2011 and many law enforcement and public health experts say that shows much more needs to be done to seriously address the gun violence epidemic -- even more than what the president or Congress proposes. "These are all steps in the right direction to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them, the mental health issues, those are all good things," said Mike Bouchard, a retired agent with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms and president of Security Dynamics Group, a consulting firm that ensures companies are compliant with firearm regulations. "But I don't know that it's going to reduce the homicide rate." Trent Brewer and Beatriz Cintora-Silva were part of a fairly typical pattern of homicides in December 2012, the same month as the Newtown mass murders. Exactly how many others across the United States met the same fate that month? There's really no way to know. That's because of a lack of data. The FBI details homicides each year but it often has a lag time in reporting and does not specify the exact type of weapon. While the CDC has a National Violent Death Reporting System to collect data for violence prevention research, it is only operational in 18 states. A slew of researchers, professors and experts successfully urged Vice President Joe Biden to include researching gun violence as one of the proposals he submitted to the president. Biden led the gun violence task force created by Obama in the wake of last month's Newtown shootings. Harold Pollack, co-director of the Chicago Crime Lab and one of the researchers who penned the recommendations to Biden, said he hopes this federal action will reverse the stifling of research and data since the 1990s. That's when the powerful pro-gun National Rifle Association effectively ended federal funding for gun violence research, citing its opposition to taxpayer-funded studies on gun violence. How the NRA wields its influence That type of research is exactly what Pollack said can eventually prevent some of the senseless deaths as a result of guns. "If you look at 'How did someone get that gun that led to that person getting killed?' we might be able to find ways to have interfered with it," Pollack said. "Maybe it's related to the gun dealer, maybe it's a type of gun commerce that we can interrupt, or maybe there's a social service intervention before any of that." He noted that studies of infant deaths and car accidents led to decreased rates of deaths in both cases. Traffic accident research led to the discovery that many deaths were the result of impacts inside the car, not the car hitting a tree, for example. That, Pollack said, is why we have airbags and seat belts. Those lifesaving additions to cars were a direct result of the tedious research. That is how guns should be addressed, he said. "We have to be able to use the tools that we have ... to try and make sensible policy," Pollack said. "If our data about critical matters is left in a dusty box of a basement in a courthouse, there isn't a whole lot we can do." Obama has ordered the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and other federal agencies to immediately begin research on gun violence, its impact and any prevention measures. There is only one hurdle standing in the way: Congress has to give them funding. Tracing gun sales It can takes weeks or even months, if law enforcement is lucky, to trace a gun back to its origin. Because many states don't require guns to be registered, or private sales to be documented, no one really knows who owns many of the guns in circulation in the United States. That means authorities are often unable to find out how criminals got their guns. While most people assume, perhaps because of TV shows or movies, that authorities can plug in a serial number and gather all the data about a gun, Mike Bouchard said that actually couldn't be further from the truth. Bouchard, who works with firearm dealers to make sure they are compliant with the law, likens the situation to underage drinking: If someone can't get a beer, they may find someone who can buy it for them. The same is true of guns, he said. "The rules are easily defeated," he said. "If (criminals) want a gun they are going to get a gun." That's a hole that President Obama hopes to address with universal background checks, stronger control of gun sales and laws that would make it a crime to sell your own gun to someone without a background check. Universal background checks would mark an important turning point in stemming gun violence, according to gun control advocate Lindsay Nichols. "This may be the single most important gun violence prevention measure that the government could adopt," said Nichols, an attorney with the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. She said it would close a loophole that gave "dangerous criminals and dangerously mentally ill individuals ... a most unfettered access to firearms." But NRA president David Keene suggested to CNN's Candy Crowley that he has little faith in universal background checks, saying they don't work. That's because, Bouchard said, it assumes criminals will follow the law. "These criminals don't care what the law says," he said. While he said he believes expanding background checks is a step in the right direction, Bouchard said the real solution would be creating a database that tracks weapons purchases. "If people knew every transaction of a gun was going to be recorded somewhere, I think they'd be more responsible with who they transferred their weapon to," he said. Based on his experience, Bouchard said it would be pretty easy to establish a database to track weapon purchases and sales on a national level. But he admits he doesn't know anyone who supports a nationwide gun registration. Experts know that reducing the number of Americans killed by guns isn't a problem that will be solved overnight, let alone in a few years. It may take a long-term game of trial and error. But with 12,000 to 15,000 people being killed by guns each year, Bouchard said the country has to start somewhere. Anywhere. "Our whole society controls how much you can drink, how many pills you can buy, we have controls we accept on everything else in this society -- except guns," Bouchard said. "Those things are all acceptable to us. But with guns most people will not even discuss restrictions." http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/29/us/handguns-and-federal-legislation/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

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Ummm - not only was Obama not born in Kenya, he is not a 79 year old woman either. Jeez, you people! And you know he wasnt born in kenya because you gave birth to him? Do you wear your tinfoil hat in bed? I dont really care about it. I just like to point out as much as you claim to know about obama...unless you were there at the birth, then you dont know with 100% certainty that he WASNT born in kenya.

Ive seen a picture of that monkey. Can you tell me why it looks so much like nathan lane?

I dont really have any ambitions on living to be that old.

I think the NRA should use this opportunity to allow the president to put his money where his mouth is. Take him to the closest skeet range and the most 'birds' shot in one round wins. Of course bringing Nancy Pelosi with him should be banned since shes so damn ugly the skeet would self-destruct.

Yes. 100% This is a fact. This is why the AG has been in Washington (state) recently discussing with the governor how to move forward. ETA: This is also why no big business has entered the pot market. Once the federal conflicts are resolved you will see MARLBORO joints. Marlboro already has a patent for marijuana ciggarettes should it ever become legalized.

Lol well several dumbass states have introduced legislation like this Unfortunately now its my dumbass state. Fun fact: It is illegal for an employer in MO to fire you for owning a firearm. Thanks to Rep. Wanda Brown. It is NOT illegal to be fired for sexual orientation in MO. Thanks to Rep. Wanda Brown. Here is the email I sent her when she introduced the bill about making it illegal to be fired for owning a gun.... "Miss Brown Please step down from public service. Your complete and utter ignorance is such an insult to all of Missouri. Please please, never again cast a vote that could actually affect someones life. You should probably try something more along the lines of recycling old cans. Thanks. XXXXXX" She didn't respond ;[. My state is fcked. So you think firearm owners should lose their jobs. Thats mighty nice of you.

I like to wear 'hot booties' while cleaning my ACR. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm0dZKb-0Lc

QuoteI do. I've got a Dillon 550 RL and several caliber conversions. And yes John, I was talking about 500 bullets (just the lead bit) were $100.[/reply You can always use/get a smelter and a die set and melt your own bullets. My dad has several thousand pounds of lead castings. Its a pain in the ass but it can be done. We always use his lead projectiles for target pistol shooting at close range.

You should try reloading. Sure the intitial investment is a lot like skydiving, but once you have all the gear you will save quite a bit. Then youll be like me with a bucket policing brass at the range.

Front lean and rest! MOVE!

http://now.msn.com/obama-says-he-goes-shooting-all-the-time-angers-gun-owners

Ummm - not only was Obama not born in Kenya, he is not a 79 year old woman either. Jeez, you people! And you know he wasnt born in kenya because you gave birth to him?

I just think that was a very convenient statement to make at this juncture in his gun control campaign. Personally I call bullshit. Of course there will be someone who will bring up a picture of obama wearing camo holding a shotgun for a photoshoot and use that as evidence. Any way you cut it...political tactics. I seriously doubt he would know the difference between a 'high house' and a 'low house'.

President Obama, who as a candidate once claimed some voters "cling" to guns and religion and has launched a renewed push for an assault-weapons ban, revealed a curious factoid in an interview with The New Republic -- he's an avid skeet shooter, apparently. "Up at Camp David, we do skeet shooting all the time," Obama said. The president was responding to a common question asked to gun-control advocates: "Have you ever fired a gun?" Obama revealed his skeet-shooting interest -- something that he has not mentioned before -- and went on to defend America's hunting tradition. "Part of being able to move this forward is understanding the reality of guns in urban areas are very different from the realities of guns in rural areas," Obama said. "And if you grew up and your dad gave you a hunting rifle when you were 10, and you went out and spent the day with him and your uncles, and that became part of your family's traditions, you can see why you'd be pretty protective of that." The president made clear that the women of the Obama family do not go skeet shooting with him. "Not the girls, but oftentimes guests of mine go up there," Obama said in the interview. "And I have a profound respect for the traditions of hunting that trace back in this country for generations. And I think those who dismiss that out of hand make a big mistake." Obama and congressional Democrats have tried to insist that their push for gun-control legislation would respect the rights of hunters and sportsmen. Shotguns, which are typically used in skeet shooting, would be largely exempt from a renewed assault-weapons ban. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., introduced the ban last week, as well as a new federal limit on high-capacity magazines. Obama said in the interview he wants to "bridge" gaps between the two sides in the debate in the months ahead. "And that means that advocates of gun control have to do a little more listening than they do sometimes," he said. The National Rifle Association and a number of Republican lawmakers have already lined up against the Feinstein bill, claiming the last assault-weapons ban did little to curb violent crime. "The American people know gun bans do not work and we are confident Congress will reject Senator Feinstein's wrong-headed approach," an NRA spokesman said last week. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/28/obama-says-goes-skeet-shooting-all-time/

A while back john divulged that he's got mad street smarts as well. He's like the skydiving communities version of lance armstrong...Mononut. And yes before you get too carried away I am kidding.

No soup for you!

Gasparilla floats for everyone! oh yeah GO BUCS!!

Perhaps he had the runs. Wait is that the same thing as biscuits brown?

Unfortunately a majority of the people trying to pass these laws about these various features that fit various weapons into their nomenclature about what an assault rifle is are flawed. I have a very good idea dianne feinstein doesnt know her ass from a hole in the ground in regards to the weapons behind her that whe was mentioning that need to be banned. However there is bound to be someone with more knowledge that works for her team that could call 'bullshit' on some of the arguments pro gun advocates use on a common basis...it works most of the time because the people they usually use those lines on dont know what the fuck is up from down in regards to a muzzle break or a bayonette lug. But there is bound to be someone that does know the difference and I agree. If the NRA wants to win this fight they will have to dot every I and cross every T and leave no stone untrurned. Otherwise that asshat feinstein might get her way.