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Shane, thanks for clarifying where you stand on things. For the record, JT and Jimmy have appalled me far more than you. I agree with Shane that unless what they were doing was clearly illegal, then Don should not have gotten the Sheriff involved. This isn't Don's bridge either, and it isn't up to him to set the rules... it's the city of Twin Falls and the state of Idaho. That said, if a Twin Falls Sheriff comes up to you and asks you to not do something, the better part of valor would be to do as he requests. If you don't like it, take it up with the state or city council... but don't thumb your nose at him and do what he just asked you not to. That's bad PR and just bad common sense. Case in point... Tom, me, and several other folks spent the better part of two days designing and building a platform that would hold 3 people (for the initial purpose of putting Russell off, but later for non-paralyzed jumpers). Some asshat complained to the sheriff that our restraining straps were blocking the walkway. The sheriff showed up and asked us to take the platform down (after we put Russell off). Now, we could have taken the "screw you, there's nothing prohibiting us from doing this" approach, or we could have taken it down in order to maintain good relations with the city. Care to take a guess as to which option we chose? - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

CONFUSING, MISLEADING LIBERAL MUMBO-JUMBO: "The idea for the September 11 attacks appears to have originated with a veteran jihadist named Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM). A Kuwaiti from the Baluchistan region of Pakistan, KSM grew up in a religious family and claims to have joined the Muslim Brotherhood at the age of 16." AS TRANSLATED TO THE PATRIOTIC TRUTH: "The idea for the September 11 attacks appears to have originated with an obstinate tin pot dictator named Saddam Hussein (SH) who once humiliated the President's daddy. A Sunni Muslamiac from the town of Tikrit, SH was once a dependable CIA puppet kept armed to the teeth, but when he failed in his assigned mission to wage and win a genocidal war against his Iranian neighbors, he lapsed into anti-American dementia, and began actively plotting the collapse of Jesus Christ's favorite country. CONFUSING, MISLEADING LIBERAL MUMBO-JUMBO: "At a meeting with Bin Ladin and Mohamed Atef, al Qaeda's Chief of Operations, KSM presented several ideas for attacks against the United States. One of the operations he pitched, according to KSM, was a scaled-up version of what would become the attacks of September 11. Bin Ladin listened, but did not yet commit himself." AS TRANSLATED TO THE PATRIOTIC TRUTH: "At a meeting with Osama bin Ladin and Mohamed Atef, Al Qaeda's Chief of Operations, Saddam Hussein presented several ideas for attacks against the United States. One of the operations he pitched was a version of the September 11 attacks wherein under cover of night, he himself would parachute onto the Bush compound in Kennebunkport Maine, wielding only a flashlight and collapsible shovel, to exhume and ritualistically desecrate the decayed remains of the late First Springer Spaniel 'Millie.'" CONFUSING, MISLEADING LIBERAL MUMBO-JUMBO: "According to KSM, the 1998 East Africa embassy bombings demonstrated to him that Bin Ladin was willing to attack the United States. In early 1999, Bin Ladin summoned KSM to Kandahar to tell him that his proposal to use aircraft as weapons now had al Qaeda's full support." AS TRANSLATED TO THE PATRIOTIC TRUTH: "According to Saddam Hussein, the 1998 East Africa embassy bombings demonstrated to him that United States liberals were ready and willing to blame all acts of terrorism on Osama Bin Ladin, when in fact it is Hussein himself who is responsible for every last act of global terror, and will continue to be so even during his incarceration and after his inevitable jailhouse 'suicide.' In early 1999, Hussein summoned Bin Ladin to his 24K gold crude oil jacuzzi, where he informed Bin Ladin of his new role as eternal indentured fall guy." CONFUSING, MISLEADING LIBERAL MUMBO-JUMBO: "In early 1999, Bin Ladin summoned KSM to Kandahar to tell him that his proposal to use aircraft as weapons now had al Qaeda's full support. KSM met again with Bin Ladin and Atef at Kandahar in the spring of 1999 to develop an initial list of targets." AS TRANSLATED TO THE PATRIOTIC TRUTH: "In early 1999, Hussein dispatched several stealth carrier pigeons to Osama Bin Ladin in Afghanistan. The messages they carried informed the exiled Saudi that Saddam's plan to use aircraft as weapons was taking shape, and specifically dictated a set of highly symbolic, all-American targets within the United States, including Air Force One, the Vice Presidential Super-Secret Shadow Bunker, and the Mrs. Smith's Apple Pie factory." CONFUSING, MISLEADING LIBERAL MUMBO-JUMBO: "By late 1999 and early 2000, the young men who would become the muscle hijackers began to break off contact with their families and pursue jihad. They made their way to the camps in Afghanistan, where they volunteered to be suicide operatives for al Qaeda. After being picked by Bin Ladin himself for what would become the 9/11 operation, most of them returned to Saudi Arabia to obtain U.S. visas." AS TRANSLATED TO THE PATRIOTIC TRUTH: "By late 1999 and early 2000, Saddam had succeeded in performing radical plastic surgery on twenty genetic clones of himself so that they would be unrecognizable as Satan Incarnate, and could successfully infiltrate America to unleash his personal plot to sow Iraqazoid chaos and terror. They made their way to the state of Florida, where confronted with indisputable evidence of the magnificent job its Governor was doing, briefly considered converting to Christianity and taking volunteer positions helping to design butterfly ballots in Palm Beach County." CONFUSING, MISLEADING LIBERAL MUMBO-JUMBO: "In the United States, the operatives' primary expenses consisted of flight training, living expenses (room, board and meals, vehicles, insurance, etc.), and travel (casing flights, meetings, and the flights on 9/11). All told, about $300,000 was deposited into the 19 hijackers' bank accounts in the United States. They received funds in the United States through a variety of unexceptional means." AS TRANSLATED TO THE PATRIOTIC TRUTH: "In the United States, the operatives' primary expenses consisted of making large soft money contributions from Saddam's Swiss bank accounts to the Democratic National Convention and the Presidential campaign of Al 'Qaeda' Gore. All told, about $5.7 million was funneled into myriad terrorist-coddling coffers in the United States, including, among others, those of the American Civil Liberties Union, the Lambda Legal Defense Fund, CNN, and United Negroid Uppityness Fund." CONFUSING, MISLEADING LIBERAL MUMBO-JUMBO: "We have examined the allegation that Atta met with an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague on April 9. Based on the evidence available... we do not believe that such a meeting occurred." AS TRANSLATED TO THE PATRIOTIC TRUTH: "We have examined allegations that Saddam had several exploratory contacts with Al Qaeda representatives, and we have concluded quite logically that the very act of communicating is iron-clad proof of a strong alliance and desire to collaborate - no matter how profoundly contentious and short-lived said communications may have been. By the same logic, when President Bush gives Ted Kennedy the finger, hangs up on Tom Daschle, or calls Nancy Pelosi 'you freaky skeleton bitch,' he is in fact signalling his deep friendship and desire to pursue common goals." - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

Here was the reply to JT that I posted on Blinc... "Your Bridge? YOUR BRIDGE??? You guys really DO want to get the JV treatment don't you?" - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

I was planning on doing the same... though I was also going to tell them I'm boycotting Red Bull, and telling as many people as I can to do likewise, until the people they sponsor act in a responsible and respectful manner. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

I personally treat the Bible as a mythology and history of the Isreali people, but there is one part of the Noah story that is interesting. If you look at many of the religious or historical texts that were written around the time of Genesis, you find many that also have a "flood" story of some sort. My personal take is the climate was in a very severe state of flux at the time, and the unprecedented events would naturally cause the people of those times to believe it was the work of an angry god or gods. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

Longer than Dubya... - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

The closest I can find are the Islamic-Aztecs, who believe that we will eventually become one with the Almighty Nacho Cheese Dortio. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

Where's the "I AM an alien" option? - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

Satanic-Buddhism dictates that we all evolved from Cheetos. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

Is it just me or does John Edwards bear an eerie resemblance to John Ritter? "Come & knock on my doooor..." - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

My deepest condolences to the jumper's friends and family. BSBD... be *careful* out there folks! - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

lol, I like to think they add some character to the site. Really great meeting you. Too bad we couldn't get you to some of our other sites. Hopefully next time.

Did you read any of the essays? I honestly thought there was no one else out there that thought like me until I ran into that site. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

Maybe I just have a really bad case of it (I'm sure others here can attest to that given their interactions with me lol), but no. I sleep really well, but I still need my Adderall and 4 20oz bottles of Diet Mt. Dew the next day just to stay halfway alert at work. And what blows people's minds is that after all that.. I'm really very sedate. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

Yes, it gets even more surreal... "The Russian delegation, headed by Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, sang a version of the Beatles 'Yellow Submarine' as a woman waving a Russian flag ran around the dinner tables." I think the Indian foreign minister hit the nail on the head... "I'm not worried — but the audience should be". - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

OMFG that was HILARIOUS!! Thanks for the link. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

I'm not really attacking Powell per se... I actually like him. It's just the image of a slightly overweight ex-General dressed up in a bad Village People outfit singing "YMCA". - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

I think it's a combination of things.... 1. To establish a strategic military foothold in the Middle East. Throw a dart at the Middle Eastern region and Iraq is dead center. Plus it directly ajoins Iran and Syria, which have traditionally been pesky flies in our ointment. The fact that it also neighbors Saudi Arabia... homeland to many in al Qaeda... I think is also significant. It will be much easier for us to rattle our sabers if we have a significant military presence in Iraq than in.... say... Israel. 2. Reduce our dependence on Saudi oil. Iraq just happens to sit on top of the highest quality reserves of crude oil in the world. By gaining control of these reserves, we are less dependent on Saudi Arabia and can thus can more effectively exert influence over them to clean up their terrorism problem. 3. The Bush family has a personal vendetta with Saddam Hussein. Yeah it's sort of Oliver Stone-ish, but I honestly think this was at least at the back of Dubya's mind when he decided to go to war. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

I dunno, Barney seems to be a closet favorite. But I'm also beginning to be suspicious of Britney Spears and the Olsen twins. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

... but I'm voting for him anyway. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

Hard as it may be to believe, I'm honestly at a complete loss for words on this. It's just so wrong on so many levels.... Click - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

Realize that the same could be said of the folks listening to right-wing talk show hosts as well. It cuts both ways. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

Well, maybe bittersweet, but in any event a lot more positive than most stuff coming out of Iraq these days. Click - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

Ask JV... and his crime would be infinitely less egregious in comparison. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon

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