SkyDekker

pretty scary thought, so once a minority of people vote for your president, he can do whatever the hell he wants?

well between lieing about a blowjob or lieing about a nuclear weapons program and a war, I pick the lie about the blowjob. At least that one didn't kill people.

So, when someone asks for a decent program to find music with, your concern doesn't really apply, since it goes for all applications out there. Now spyware doesn't come with all aplications. Hence my question, anyone used it yet?

And is there any system to get around this?

I like my spot on the list, what a great Sky sandwich

anybody tries Soulseek yet? Heard from an avid music downloader that it is a great program with no spyware

Always great to have a fellow canuck around. Even if he does cheer for the wrong hockey team

54 people so far, this is going to be of epic proportions!!!!!!!!

I am sooo excited about going to the wffc, I almost creamed my pants. I will arrive the evening of the 1st and leave on the 9th. SkyBytch should have my reservation for the dz.com tent area. I would be honoured to be on wingnut's birthday and Phree's 600th jump, if you guys will let me. Justin

True, though the question remains if it is the right decision at the time for the circumstances. Or if the decision has been made using alterior motives. I think we can both agree that politicians are not known for their honesty.

I probably said it too harshly as usual. I was trying to convey that the first priority in this situation should be horizontal seperation. Vertical seperation can go to shit with mals or early deployments. With proper horizontal seperation, I don't think there are any situations where it can go wrong. (refering to mid air collisions during or before deployment). Hence, I think we should focus and rely on horizontal seperation mostly. Naturally it would make sense ot focus on vertical seperation after that. Like high pullers etc last.

INCREDIBLY HUGE VIBES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah and I know a leftist who did a good deed last week. So, are you going to change your political beliefs now?

See it is you who has no clue Marshmallows have gelatin in them. Gelatin is made from crushed animal bones. Hence marsmallos do have bones. Now who has no idea?

Vibes to Daizey. get well soon girl.

Good luck Duece. I never enjoy firing people. ever.

This is exactly the reason why vertical seperation means nothing!!!!!!!!! It is all about horizontal seperation. If you would have gone out after the big belly formation, none of this would have been an issue, because there would have been sufficient horizontal seperation. Yeah, they may have hummed it low. But what if they had a malfunction? IMHO you should not have been there in the first place. I think it makes sense to track at 90 degrees of jumprun, even on solo jumps. That could help avoid situations like this as well.

Well, that is obvious But I did mean to say: for baby Monica

hugs and vibes from baby Monica

Ohh I could not agree with you more. I am sure Rumsfeld is agreeing with you as well. He did admit yesterday that there really was no shocking new evidence when it came to Iraq. That they just saw the same evidence through a differnt prism after 911. And they had us all believing that there was shocking new eveidence. But it really was just the same shit on a different day. Well, that and God talked to Bush.

I agree with that. I did not write that, but I thought that even staunch Bush supporters might get a little giggle out of that. Some of the items discussed are a little far fetched, but that just indicates the humour IMHO.

Ohh I completely agree. Though I think just like statistics, many bits of intelligence can be shown to be many things. I am starting to believe more and more that the White House was looking for intelligence to support their standpoint and did NOT use intelligence to form their standpoint. I am starting to believe that the end goal was already decided and the intelligence community was "asked" to ensure that the intelligence to support them was in place. I don't think there will ever truly be a way to prove that, so it will always remain a point of contention. But it is getting clearer and clearer that not all was above board, to say the least. Not sure what to say about that. Don't consider myself left or right, Republican or Democrat. Nor do I consider myslef a liar. Without a doubt. Anything to quickly could look like a defeat. yeah, but when unemployment stays high, people will eventually have less money to spend. Which will then slow down the economy further. I think the real problem will come when the state banks of both the US and Canada start increasing interest rates. Debt in both countries is at its highest level ever. Most people can offard their current debt load. But, will that be the case when the interest rates are 3% to 4% higher? I guess only time will tell. I agree, though government spending can make it easier on private industry and entrepeneurs to grow and hence creating jobs.

Hey I never said I agreed with the sentiment. I am not sure why the US would send troops. There seems to be far worse going on in other countries.

Maybe this Q&A between father and son will clear up any questions you have. DADDY, WHY DID WE HAVE TO ATTACK IRAQ? Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq? A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction, son. Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction. A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them. Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq? A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections. Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass destruction, did we? A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll find something, probably right before the 2004 election. Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction? A: To use them in a war, silly. Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went to war with them? A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend themselves. Q: That doesn't make sense Daddy. Why would they choose to die if they had all those big weapons to fight us back with? A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense. Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those weapons our government said they did. A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway. Q: And what was that? A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade another country. Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his country? A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people. Q: Kind of like what they do in China? A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic competitor, where millions of people work for slave wages in sweatshops to make U.S.corporations richer. Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people? A: Right. Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured? A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government. People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and tortured. Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China? A: I told you, China is different. Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq? A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China is Communist. Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad? A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad. Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad? A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are sent to prison and tortured. Q: Like in Iraq? A: Exactly. Q: And like in China, too? A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other hand, is not. Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor? A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and started being capitalists like us. Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become capitalists? A: Don't be a smart-ass. Q: I didn't think I was being one. A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba. Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement? A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate leader anyway. Q: What's a military coup? A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the United States. Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup? A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is our friend. Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate? A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate. Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an illegitimate leader? A: Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he helped us invade Afghanistan. Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan? A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th. Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th? A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men, fifteen of them Saudi Arabians hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings, killing over 3,000 Americans. Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that? A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive rule of the Taliban. Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off people's heads and hands? A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too. Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars back in May of 2001? A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job fighting drugs. Q: Fighting drugs? A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing opium poppies. Q: How did they do such a good job? A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban would have their hands and heads cut off. Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off for other reasons? A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off people's hands for stealing bread. Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia? A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not comply. Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too? A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering. Q: What's the difference? A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers. Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name. A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are our friends. Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia. A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan. Q: Who trained them? A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden. Q: Was he from Afghanistan? A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very bad man. Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once. A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan back in the 1980s. Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald Reagan talked about? A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We call them Russians now. Q: So the Soviets, I mean the Russians, are now our friends? A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support our invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the French and the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq either. Q: So the French and Germans are evil, too? A: Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename French fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast. Q: Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do what we want them to do? A: No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade. Q: But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s? A: Well, yeah. For a while. Q: Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then? A: Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made him our friend, temporarily. Q: Why did that make him our friend? A: Because at that time, Iran was our enemy. Q: Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds? A: Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we looked the other way, to show him we were his friend. Q: So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically becomes our friend? A: Most of the time, yes. Q: And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically an enemy? A: Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations can profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time, all the better. Q: Why? A: Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war is a godless unAmerican Communist. Do you understand now why we attacked Iraq? Q: I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right? A: Yes. Q: But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq? A: Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells him what to do. Q: So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because George W. Bush hears voices in his head? A. Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night. Good night, Daddy.

My only guess would be that their sentiment is along the lines of: The country was founded by freed slaves from the US. Hence it is more the US' problem then ours. So you guys fix it. I agree with you though. Why Liberia and not one of the other scores of countries where civil war is raging wild. I am buying this whole Saddam was bad for his people argument less and less as a validation for war. Zimbabwians are being killed by the thousands in political violence. the US wants the government gone, but South Africa is strongly opposing that. Do you think Bush would talk to Mbeki about that when they are sitting next to eachother. Noooo, off course not, that would just be too easy. Might as well ignore it and continue with what is truly important for his re-election campaign. Zimbabwe obviously isn't.