jenfly00

I'm considering getting my lips stretched to accomodate a medium sized dinner plate, but I'm having a bit of trouble finding a plastic surgeon that does this kind of work. They all seem to be more mainstream in their surgical mutilation offerings. In fact, one suggested I seek psychiatric help. This from a guy who thinks it's emotionally healthy for women to want several pounds of silicone stuffed in their chests. Go figure. I'm not doing it to be more attractive, I'm doing it for ME!

You wouldn't be giving me special consideration because of my gender, would you? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

It would be cause for an immediate, serious and open discussion ...and a major red flag of warning about the realationship. Early in a relationship, they're gone. In a long(er) term commitment, I'm not saying it couldn't be worked out, but the odds would be against it. Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

We enjoy being treated in ways we have been acculturated by people who have been acculturated to behave in such a manner ...by a patriarchial society with a vested interest in keeping the power structure intact. It is the very nature and primary goal of a society to establish norms of behavior, relative worth and value that all accept. My problem lies in that one gender has paid and continues to pay a disproportionatly large portion of the cost. Interpersonal power within social groups is established and maintained by subtle words, phrases, gestures and attitudes. Let me get that door for you, darlin. Just being respectful to the little lady. These phrases establish relative power and dominance and serve to reinforce established social positions. Not as crude as "get back in the kitchen" but the societal intent is the same ...to mainain the stability of the power structure. It establishes social position and relative value within the group, be it family, social or work. No offense intented, but I suspect they do, indeed, affect the quality of your very thoughts as evidenced by your appreciation of such acts. We like it because we have been taught from day one that it is normal and acceptable. They seem well intentioned and harmless, but women have been presented the bill for such socialization over the generations and the cost is too much to bear for those who want equality. Change is not a warm and fuzzy thing. It is, however, a necessary thing ...and looonng overdue. Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Excellent point, and I'm glad it was a woman who brought it up. Women don't really want equality, and in fact rarely settle for it. I went to a boarding school where sexes were segregated till we were about 13 and then they were thrown together. Girls that were then treated by boys, like boys treated other boys have been bitter about it ever since. Bite me! Some of us do, and our numbers are growing. We fight against the attitudes of men who feel we do not or should not want eqality and we fight against the attitudes of the women who take refuge in the special or sepratist categories for women. Some of us just want to live our lives equally and fairly in this world. The time is coming. Many men and some women don't like it, but the time is coming when we can drop all this shit and live our lives unencumbered by the restrictive attitudes found in both genders. Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Who holds this double standard? Is it just men, holding woman back? Well, yeah, to some extent, it is.

It's not. A truly bad movie. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Oh please, we all make some attempt to appear favorable. It used to be that a man's ability to provide food, shelter, and protection is what would attract a woman. Now, it's going to the gym, manscaping, and having a good credit rating. Short, fat, bald guys with no money and a shaggy back need not apply. The rules have changed, but the prize is the same...a woman's favor(s). And make no mistake about it, women make the rules in that regard. For me, a little routine landscaping has resulted in more frequent signs of appreciation and affection, and is well worth the effort.

I'm not familiar with Mississippi law. After the divorce, are they still brother and sister? Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Tell me about it! Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Marry me. Me and my hair will do everything to make you happy!

I know four tandem haulers who make more than $100,000/year here in Florida. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Do you own a poodle? Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

...and pocketed over $18,000!

I've noticed a bit of a trend with my galfriends who like their men shaved, trimmed, smooth and perfumed. My co-worker Jenna's husband is immaculate ...trimmed, every hair on his head in place. Has his back waxed at her request. Buys most of his clothes. She also has two poodles she takes to the doggie parlor every few weeks and dresses them up with bows and such. Makes me wonder how they view their husbands I want my man to be a man. Men have hair ...it's one of several things I love about them. That said, I do appreciate a bit of grooming in the southern hemisphere. Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

This guy was wrong. I know it and I think you know it. I have no problem with people owning guns. I do have a problem with them being irresponsible in using them. This guy either emotionally lost it, was overcome by the rush of exerting his will on others, or simply made a serious error in judgment. He went too far. Not just a little bit, but way too far. So perhaps he's a good guy and just got all emotionally wound up and couldn't see when he should have stood down. A most valuable lesson to be learned, don't you think. Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

"Great Balls of Fire" by Jerry Lee Lewis ...and I'm still waiting for the lengerie pics

can he just please pm them to you... i've met dave and really don't want to have to see him wearing something like that......... well maybe a nice thong... oh yeah, aggiedave in a thong... oh wait, what am i typing.. i don't know really,i can't read the monitor,i've gone blind!!!!! Awwww, I bet he'd look sooo cute! ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

For who? Let's be honest. We do it for our men and my experience is that men like slutty and trashy far more then pretty and ladylike. Truth be told, so do I. Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Please post pics of you in your favorite oufit.

Where I'm from, folks make an honest comment or decide not to participate. They also stay out of the moderator's business. Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Those were my thoughts. Loking at it a second time, the robber was shot. He loses his gun. Then, the clerk approached to the robber's left. At about 19:35:21 the robber reaches with his right hand for his gun and retrieves it. At the 19:35:24-25 mark, you see the robber apparently point his gun at the clerk to get a shot off. At 19:35:26 clerk fires again. This may still be self-defense. On the third shot, however, you can see the robber's right hand with the gun on the ground, not pointing towards the clerk. The clerk finished him off. Whether the second shot was defensive due to clerk's duty to retreat depends on the state law. But the third looks like it may make a homicide. I think the clerk better just hope to go before a jury. The jury at an independant film festival??? I suspect this was clerks gone bored. ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Assuming that's directed at me since you replied to my name, my children have a very active father in their lives and we have joint custody. In addition, nowhere did I ever say I wouldnt help one of my friends in need. Yes and no. Yes in that I was responding to what I considered to be your overly narrow view of life and what is and is not irresponsible. No, in that I had no idea you were a single mom. Perhaps I misinterpreted. I assumed that anyone took the time to express "I think it's irresponsible for people to skydive without insurance and without savings set aside for a back-up plan. Sorry if I sound harsh." would be unsympathetic and unwilling to help. Of course, you also didn't say if you would help a skydiver in need, either. Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

Given the right time, mood and partner ...IT'S ALL GOOD! Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".

I feel the same way about single parents skydiving, but I won't let my narrow (perhaps) way of what I feel is responsible/irresponsible keep me from helping those in need. Jen ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it".