warpedskydiver

Don't you have a national socialist meeting to conduct? Now run along so you won't be late.

It was a typo bill it was supposed to say fr om oppression. Didn't you realize it?

Again with the derogatory remarks, would you like it if we referred to you with a name which reflects the manner in which you conduct yourself? I could think of quite a few.

Try actually serving then tell all of us how your imagination differs from reality.

The simple fact is that the course of action I mentioned would obviously be offered as a solution. But you have nothing to say, in fact all you do is attempt to fuck with others, I think there is a sticky on your behavior.

Whatever, I guess you don't have any former coworkers. Do you have anything to contribute? Or do you merely intend on trying to irritate or demean others? Troll away...

We all know that could never happen.

Removing the threat and letting the country prosper via tourism, marketable crops, trade, education for all and freedom of oppression will go a long way

No secret squirrel, just don't care to elaborate on here.

Less is more, when your power is great you need to appear to be weak or in this case absent. It is like playing whack a mole, only you never see who has the hammer.

When the POTUS has no experience in these matters it is best to listen to what the professionals say and choose wisely from those options. I know for a fact that someone within the loop has offered what I would recommend, but that would get rejected because it is playing by a "win by any means" set of rules. I think you are going to disagree with me but I also will point out that anything geared towards massive troop deployments, partitioning, coalition building with the Taliban, and just about anything else will fail. There are a few people on these forums that know what I am talking about and many of the rest will not be able to cope with what needs to be done. Think in terms of the Malayan campaign. If that occurred these days the Obama administration would call everyone war criminals.

I think it actually needs a different approach, and it is one that has been offered but not spoken about. Think in terms of when we first went in. It gives them nothing to hit back at and really puts a stick in their spokes.

Obama is a darker version of LBJ. Rejecting the recommendations of his top military experts reeks of his lack of respect and lack of experience in thse matters.

Official: Obama wants revised Afghan war options President Barack Obama won't accept any of the Afghanistan war options before him without changes, a senior administration official said, as concerns soar over the ability of the Afghan government to secure its own country one day. Obama's stance comes as his own ambassador in Afghanistan, Karl Eikenberry, is voicing strong dissent about a U.S. troop increase, according to a second administration official. Eikenberry's misgivings center on a concern that bolstering the American presence in Afghanistan could make the country more reliant on the U.S., not less. He expressed them in forcefully worded cables to Washington just ahead of Obama's latest war meeting Wednesday. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss administration deliberations. The developments underscore U.S. skepticism about the leadership of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, whose government has been dogged by corruption. The emerging administration message is that Obama will not do anything to lock in an open-ended U.S. commitment. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Thursday that she is concerned about Afghanistan's "corruption, lack of transparency, poor governance (and) absence of the rule of law." "We're looking to President Karzai as he forms a new government to take action that will demonstrate — not just to the international community but first and foremost to his own people — that his second term will respond the needs that are so manifest," Clinton said during a news conference in Manila with Philippine Foreign Secretary Alberto Romulo. Obama is still expected to send in more troops to bolster a deteriorating war effort. He remains close to announcing his revamped war strategy — troops are just one component — and probably will do so shortly after he returns from a trip to Asia that ends Nov. 19. Yet in Wednesday's pivotal war council meeting, Obama wasn't satisfied with any of the Afghanistan war options presented by his national security team, one official said. The president instead pushed for revisions to clarify how and when U.S. troops would turn over responsibility to the Afghan government. In turn, that could change the dynamic of both how many additional troops are sent to Afghanistan and what the timeline would be for their presence in the war zone, according to the official. Military officials said Obama has asked for a rewrite before and resisted what one official called a one-way highway toward war commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal's recommendations for more troops. The sense that he was being rushed and railroaded has stiffened Obama's resolve to seek information and options beyond military planning, officials said, though a substantial troop increase is still likely. The president is considering options that include adding 30,000 or more U.S. forces to take on the Taliban in key areas of Afghanistan and to buy time for the Afghan government's small and ill-equipped fighting forces to take over. The other three options on the table are ranges of troop increases, from a relatively small addition of forces to the roughly 40,000 that McChrystal prefers, according to military and other officials. The war is now in its ninth year and is claiming U.S. lives at a record pace as military leaders say the Taliban has the upper hand in many parts of the country. Eikenberry, the top U.S. envoy to Kabul and a former commander of U.S. troops in Afghanistan, is a prominent voice among those advising Obama, and his sharp dissent is sure to affect the equation. The options given to Obama will now be altered, although not overhauled. Military officials say one approach is a compromise battle plan that would add 30,000 or more U.S. forces atop a record 68,000 in the country now. They described it as "half and half," meaning half fighting and half training and holding ground so the Afghans can regroup. "The government of Afghanistan has to accept greater responsibility for its own defense," Clinton said Thursday. She had no comment on the Eikenberry memos. The White House says Obama has not made a final choice, though military and other officials have said he appears near to approving a slightly smaller increase than McChrystal wants at the outset. Among the options for Obama would be ways to phase in additional troops, perhaps eventually equaling McChrystal's full request, based on security or other conditions in Afghanistan and troop levels by U.S. allies there. The White House has chafed under criticism from Republicans and some outside critics that Obama is dragging his feet to make a decision. Obama's top military advisers have said they are comfortable with the pace of the process, and senior military officials have pointed out that the president still has time since no additional forces could begin flowing into Afghanistan until early next year. Under the scenario featuring about 30,000 more troops, that number most likely would be assembled from three Army brigades and a Marine Corps contingent, plus a new headquarters operation that would be staffed by 7,000 or more troops, a senior military official said. There would be a heavy emphasis on the training of Afghan forces, and the reinforcements Obama sends could include thousands of U.S. military trainers. ___ Associated Press writers Matthew Lee in Manila, Philippines, and Pamela Hess in Washington contributed to this report.

May god rest his soul This is why we observe as a nation this Veterans day It is why I never forget and think about this every day of the year. I cannot avoid thinking about it. Many of us question why we live and others do not.

I never made a PA in this thread, I am watched quite closely by the Mods and would have been banned if I had. I did not get so much as a caution, I still intend on not attacking anyone. I wish I could say the same for others who "choose to shit upon this thread" I guess because I posted it, that would make this thread objectionable to those individuals.

A combo of both, I would support an uprising of the Persian people in order to overthrow the Mullahs. Iran was once a flourishing and very modernized country where women could be fashionable and business was booming. That would help Israel greatly in that they would only have to contend with Syria, SA, Yemen, and the Islamic terrorist states on the coast of Africa who maintain traing grounds for terrorists. Saudi Arabia is barely able to keep the terrorists from destabilizing the government. What you have there is so many Wahabi's that support terrorism and Jihad against the west that many princes are complicit with supporting them. That is one screwed up country. Terrorism and money is a real problem

Hey IO met a guy who was a British soldier who was caned in HK for defending himself in a bar fight. The nationals were not even arrested. He required many stitches to close the wounds. In hindsight he should have killed them and run for it. He was the victim of an attack and so he stayed to file a police report when they arrived. The cops arrived and then proceeded to handcuff him and beat him for hours.

Yep and seeing them exchanging ID cards in order to escape paying is the icing on the cake, they do it in full view of everyone. Sniffles get taken before back injuries, I witnessed this with my own daughter after she was thrown from her horse. She was walking but it was a bad injury, after the scans she was given morphine x2. The POS that was before her merely had a cold. The people with him had a wallet full of ID cards, I should have called the police.

I just saw a picture of Beth and a few others from back in the mid 80's, wow I guess we were all young once. Looking at those pics was kinda sad, saying well that one is dead, that one is dead, etc. I am going to buy Rainbo, MJ, Gene, Gomei, Jim, and Dana a "I win" Tshirt

Jakee, were you on an accident where your common sense was removed during surgery? What is false about the fact that you hide behind your keyboard and say things that you would never consider if you had to say it face to face? Act like you would in person and then people will be able to judge your character. You might find me reprehensible, as well as some of those who think as you do. What you would find astonishing is that I actually get along with people who have a different opinion, the key is that they do not act like shit towards others.

All you need is a squirrel pole. Military Veterans would almost certainly be the first ones targeted, subsequent pacification would be assured once the Veterans were eliminated.

Fuck it I am drunk and could not give a shit what anyone thinks. Well except just one person...

Many people give lip service to the sacrifices made by Veterans. Quite a few think Veterans are repugnant. I am sometimes reluctant to even mention having served anymore. Seeing how other speak of Veterans fromall nations disgusts me. I have more respect for some of our former enemies than I do the people who would act like they are our friends. There is honesty in someone admitting that years earlier they were trying hard to kill us. There are those who harbor ill will and yet smile to our faces. That really sucks

So you are a vivid hunter and there is a black panther near your home? I thought you liked liberals.