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I had forgotten that it was just a hair over 3692 miles from Alaska to Germany, obviously it would require being at a much greater altitude to see germany from Alaskan airspace. Kallend needs lessons on other things.

Che is soooo cliChe

Shortly kallend will either make a statement that has nothing to do with your response, or say it is all just anecdotal, and not fact in his mind.

I was getting "free milk" for four years

I am getting married. Karen and I have decided to make it official, so it seems we will do it on Oct 10th. Good thing that it is her birthday as well, I won't forget the anniversary and get a twofer for the presents. Some of you women should now feel relieved and safe.

Agreed.

Only in your mind, once again, you ignored anything that does not fit into your perception of reality. When I post actual records I make no effort to hide or disguise anything.

You probably could if you were at 125K feet AGL

Uh - last time I checked no judgment had been made against him. If that happens, I'll agree with you. Make up your mind, first you agreed with Murtha. YOU PROBABLY STILL DO.

No. that is all you were willing to see, I posted his positions on many pieces of legislation. You only see what you want to see, and intentionally leave out all other facts in your efforts to make others believe as you do.

That's like saying congress could enact nation-wide religious regulation by stating that the regulation of religious texts crossing state lines is necessary to control interstate commerce. The supreme court would call bullshit on both those arguments. The commerce clause doesn't trump the second amendment any more than it trumps the first amendment. Using the commerce clause to regulate where people could take firearms was pretty much already shot down by the Supreme Court in US. v. Lopez. " In Lopez, the Court, in an opinion written by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, declared unconstitutional a 1990 congressional statute that had made it a federal crime to possess a gun on school property. The chief justice emphasized "first principles" and federalism and concluded that the possession of a gun in a local school zone was not an economic activity that might, through repetition elsewhere, "substantially affect" interstate commerce. Rather, he argued, the statute in question was an attempt by Congress to exercise a nonexistent national police power over a subject—criminal law—that was primarily of state and local concern." (case summary quoted from answers.com) Excellent point! you are as smart as you are beautiful

Hey I have a great idea, why don't you just send Obama some money? Also you could consider voting for him.

I prefer making them a joke when they cant take a fuck. Good one Jeanne

Fact: YOU have nothing to refute these facts, the sources are noted, but you would rather try and detract from the topic, and focus your mind on me rather than on anyones Constitutional Rights. So if you have nothing to say, try shutting the hell up.

On the Second Amendment, Don’t Believe Obama The presidential primary season is finally over, and it is now time for gun owners to take a careful look at just where nominee Barack Obama stands on issues related to the Second Amendment. During the primaries, Obama tried to hide behind vague statements of support for “sportsmen” or unfounded claims of general support for the right to keep and bear arms. But his real record, based on votes taken, political associations, and long standing positions, shows that Barack Obama is a serious threat to Second Amendment liberties. Don’t listen to his campaign rhetoric! Look instead to what he has said and done during his entire political career. FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia.17 FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate “assault weapons,” but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen.18 FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1 FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15 FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3 FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9 FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2 FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4 FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5 FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6 FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case. FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7 FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8 FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9 FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10 FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11 FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12 FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13 FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2 FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14 FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16 FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9 FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9 FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9 1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00219) 2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in “Obama had greater role on liberal survey,” Politico, March 31, 2008. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html) 3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00217) 4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/obama-common-se.html) 5. Illinois Senate, SB 2165, March 25, 2004, vote 20 and May 25, 2004, vote 3. 6. “Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record.” Obama ’08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck/2007/12/11/fact_check_no_news_in_obamas_c.php) 7. “Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote,” Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_560181.html) 8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7. 9. “Obama and Gun Control,” The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml) 10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26. 11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18. 12. “Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control,” Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioiowa/2007/04/clinton_edwards.html) 13. Chicago Tribune blogs, “Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action,” February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/barack_obama_comments_on_shoot.html) 14. Barack Obama campaign website: “As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . .” (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/urbanpolicy/#crime-and-law-enforcement.) 15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes (http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm and http://www.ontheissues.org/IL_2004_Senate_3rd.htm) Oct 21, 2004. 16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34. 17. United States Senate vote 245, September 29, 2005 and vote 2, January 31, 2006 and Saddleback Forum, August 16, 2008. 18. Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, March 13, 2003. To see the vote tally go to: http://www.nrapvf.org/Media/pdf/sb1195_obama.pdf.

But you don't understand, the Obamamessiah can do nothing wrong, this will be explained away as some sort of misunderstanding.

Get well soon Linsey

True, but no matter what we do, we are going to reward the fuck ups with something the rest of us never received. I was out of work for seven years, I spent every penny I ever savedin order to keep my home, while living like a peasant, and now people buy home far more expensive, and get a bailout when they do not pay? When I bought my home, mortgages were around 10% and I had to pay a huge amount of interest until such time that the rates fell, and now when they had rates low, these people went out and bought luxury homes, on a budget of an apartment dweller, and now we will all be paying their bills. I am very pissed about this.

At least they all went home safe that night. I mean what would we all be saying if he killed the entire town by clubbing them. I am surprised the cops did not shoot him a few dozen times

The house is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it at the time of sale, not what it cost you years ago. So your $220,000 is probably wishful thinking at this point, regardless. great, so those of us who paid for our homes no matter how bad things were financially are made to pay full value while those who did not pay their mortgages pay far less. Excellent idea, reward fucking up.

install a large capacitor, insulate the gas door from the body, set the thing to discharge when touched. I guess 80k volts should do it. Make sure your gas cap has no fume leaks.

Sep 24, 2008 10:31 pm US/Central Possible Evidence To Indict Gov. Blagojevich CHICAGO (CBS) ― A source tells CBS 2 News Wednesday night that a team of federal agents believes it has the evidence needed to indict Governor Rod Blagojevich. Investigators believe they've established solid evidence of fraud and conspiracy. However, they are not the ones who make the decision to prosecute. It's up to U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald and the Justice Department in Washington. Others have told CBS 2 that an indictment of Blagojevich is not imminent. No comment from the Justice Department. Last week, CBS 2 reported that the IRS assigned three teams of investigators to the Blagojevich case. But the governor says he's confident he has not broken any laws or rules. He says he's been careful to file accurate tax returns. Quote This would be a great thing for all illinoisans and possibly could also bring indictments on Barack Obama, and Daley as well.

It's very good, I am enjoying it very much.

unlike you, I disagree with the provisions in a few of these pieces of legislation, things such as making it an offense to possess, produce or transfer a .50cal bullet a felonius act. Do some more reading as to what he tried to pass, you may consider that he is very comfortable with taking away rights, or making citizens a felon even with having committed an act of violence, or harming anyone at all. www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/summary/920SB1338.html Synopsis of Bill as introduced: Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Creates the offense of unlawful use of a semiautomatic assault weapon or large capacity ammunition feeding device, defined as knowingly selling, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or carrying a semiautomatic assault weapon or large capacity ammunition feeding device. Provides that the offense is a Class 2 felony. Exempts peace officers and members of the Armed Services or Reserved Forces of the United States and Illinois National Guard while in the performance of their official duties and wardens, superintendents, and keepers of prisons, penitentiaries, jails and other facilities for the detention of persons accused or convicted of an offense. Also exempts the manufacture, transportation, or sale of these weapons or devices to those persons. 91st GA SB0048: No privacy of mental health records for FOID applicants SB1614: One handgun per month SB1616: Must apply in person @ police for FOID www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=2579&GAID=3&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=4572&SessionID=3&GA=93 Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Illinois Vehicle Code. Provides that the removal of a false or secret compartment from a motor vehicle, or the promise to do so, shall not be the basis for a defense to forfeiture of the motor vehicle under the Criminal Code of 1961 and shall not be the basis for the court to release the vehicle to the owner. Increases the penalty for owning or operating a motor vehicle with the knowledge that it contains a false or secret compartment from a Class C misdemeanor to a Class 4 felony. www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=2579&GAID=3&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=4572&SessionID=3&GA=93 Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Illinois Vehicle Code. Provides that the removal of a false or secret compartment from a motor vehicle, or the promise to do so, shall not be the basis for a defense to forfeiture of the motor vehicle under the Criminal Code of 1961 and shall not be the basis for the court to release the vehicle to the owner. Increases the penalty for owning or operating a motor vehicle with the knowledge that it contains a false or secret compartment from a Class C misdemeanor to a Class 4 felony.

Try reading EVERYTHING i did not selectively cut and paste these second amendment issues, i posted all ofd it, in fairness and truthfulness. as for you saying I am in favor of illegal activities, you are speaking out of your ass.