warpedskydiver

See *NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

That can actually be found, there are quite few dead people that were born in 1961 in Hawaii. Prove me wrong... Also; No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

No but is you look at that document and look at Article II, you will see something. I bet you will avoid that phrase.

No, his birth certificate has not been produced, only a certificate of live birth, which is a document that implies or states there is another document, a Birth Certificate. Barry's Birth Certificate has not been produced.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17289375/-Kerchner-et-al-v-Obama-Congress-et-al-Advertorial-in-20090713-Issue-Wash-Times-Natl-Wkly-pg-9

I am a Libertarian.

I wonder whether YOU saw Bush's birth records? Because if you didn't, your questioning seems to be kinda... selective. They were provided. As were John McCains

They did not call people African on forms in 1961 It was either Negro or Black. I see you avoided the obvious. Nice dodge, actually it was a lousy one. I bet the lawyers filing these suits know more about these things than you do.

This is from the Sonoran News Allen v. Soetoro assured standing in FOIA claim By Linda Bentley | July 15, 2009 FOIA’s basic purpose – opening agency action to the light of public scrutiny TUCSON – On July 6, Kenneth Allen, a Tucson resident, filed a complaint in U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona against Barry Soetoro, aka Barrack H. Obama, aka Barry Obama; Attorney General Eric Holder; Secretary of State Hillary Clinton; Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano; and Does 1-49. The action was filed pursuant to Allen’s Feb. 9, 2009 Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) request seeking immediate processing and release of agency records with regard to Barry Soetoro, Stanley Ann Soetoro and Lolo Soetoro and all known and unknown aliases. Allen brought the complaint on his own behalf after defendants blatantly refused to produce the yet-to-be-released documents in a timely manner. According to the complaint, on Monday, Jan. 26, 2009, his first day in office, President Barack Obama signed Executive Order 13490-Ethics Commitments, which stated only the Attorney General (Eric Holder) and Counsel to the President (Gregory Craig) are able to review presidential records requests and determine whether or not they can be made public. On his Illinois State Bar application where it asked for other names used by the applicant, Obama stated, “none.” Allen states, “Because … Barack Obama denies he was ever called Barry Soetoro it shouldn’t be a problem with transparency when it comes to producing the requested records … And because Barry Soetoro is not a citizen, as defined by the law, he isn’t protected by the FOIA.” According to Allen, Indonesia has not allowed dual citizenship since 1945 and, therefore, Soetoro’s mother Stanley Ann Soetoro would have been required to relinquish her son’s American citizenship and any other citizenship he might have held, in order for him to become an Indonesian citizen, which school records confirm he became. So, Allen modified his request to ask for an original copy of the immigration records pertaining to Barry Soetoro, circa 1971, when he returned to Hawaii, along with documents indicating whether or not Soetoro is still an Indonesian citizen. If not, Allen asked for documentation as to when he became a naturalized citizen. Allen requested copies of Soetoro’s passports for the years 1979 through 1982, including his Indonesian passport for the years 1979 through 1982, a copy of his passport and documented history of travel to Pakistan and nationality contained therein for the years 1981 and 1982. He also requested a copy of Stanley Ann Soetoro’s (Dunham and Obama) passport and travel history for the years 1959 through 1987 along with the same for Lolo Soetoro, citing the requests were not subject to 6 CFR § 5.21(f), which requires permission from the individual, because both subjects are deceased. Citing the Privacy Act’s laudable goals of protecting sensitive information, Allen said it only protects U.S. citizens and permanent resident aliens and “does not apply not foreigners, unions, collective associations or corporations.” Allen asserts Barry Soetoro is neither a citizen of the United States nor an alien with permanent residence and said “… we know Barry Soetoro was an Indonesian citizen at the age of 7 and that he had ties in Hawaii,” noting Soetoro would have had to have gone through immigration and customs at some point between 1961 and 2009.” The information requested by Allen could prove Soetoro is in violation of a number of laws under the Immigration and Nationality Act, including falsely claiming citizenship. Allen said the information sought would undeniably shed light on the DHS and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services conduct concerning its Indonesian and foreign repatriation policy. Considering the fact Napolitano believes veterans, Second Amendment and pro-life supporters should be considered terrorists, Allen said she shouldn’t have any problem with the release of information revealing the source of the facts underlying an aspect of the nation’s immigration policy as it pertains to Barry Soetoro, Stanley Ann Soetoro and Lolo Soetoro. He said it would further the FOIA’s basic purpose of opening agency action to the light of public scrutiny by informing the public against whom the government enforced its policy of repatriation and upon whom the DHS relied in evaluating and deciding to continue that policy, rather than denying Allen’s request for records concerning Barry Soetoro and his connection to Barack H. Obama. Allen believes any information that may exist with respect to Barry Soetoro should be released in the interest of national security and, because his complaint is over a FOIA request, there can be no question of standing. For requested relief, Allen is asking the court to order defendants to immediately process his FOIA requests, disclose the requested records in an expedited manner and find the defendants’ action in violation of the FOIA. To contact us: Sonoran News 6812 East Cave Creek Road Cave Creek, Arizona 85331 Phone: 480-488-2021 | Fax: 480-488-6216

I am paying attention to everything And I do not like what I am seeing.

I guess you think in 1961 the race of the Mother and Father would be listed as; Mother = Caucasian Father = African How in the hell are you believing that document? I can get my Birth Certificate out and it is not a Certificate of Live Birth, that is not the right document. It also lists my Parents as WHITE, not Caucasian. In 1961 the words African and Caucasian on Obama's Certificate of Live Birth were not used on forms during that time.

I read plenty. I can tell the difference between rational thought and dead-end sore losers grasping at straws. Seriously, for Obama not to have been a citizen, how many people would have to be involved in that little scheme? Did they travel back in time and plant documents in Hawaii? Have they infiltrated BOTH parties that sit on the election committees that verify these things? A person has to be almost insane to think this is even vaguely possible. Did you read that Certificate of a Live Birth? It is flat out wrong wording for 1961 A certificate of Live Birth is NOT a Birth Certificate. Try using one to get an ID from the DMV

There has been no Birth Certificate provided. The certificate of a live birth is not a birth certificate. You cannot even use that as a way to get a drivers license. Also there are claims by the Obama administration that he was born in TWO different hospitals. How can that be?

There is really something fishy about a Soldier getting his orders cancelled to avoid a lawsuit that call the presidents birth place into question. Also Ghana has made the comment that the first ever African American President is making his return to the continent of his birth. Is Ghana part of a vast right wing conspiracy? Probably not...

You might want to quit dismissing anything that does not fit your political views. http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2009/090715/webonlynews.html Read for a change

It is amazing how quickly others dismiss the case of Obama not being a natural born citizen, but there are valid questions being asked, suits being filed, and millions spent to see that they never reach a court. Listen to the Lou Dobbs section. We ask so much of many other people in order to prove their own birth records, but there are questions that need to be answered.

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6700 Pay attention Hear the Lou Dobbs Interview.

??? Please explain

But Obama is a chimp Here we go again Tom... If GHWB was a chimp, so is Obama. Same species, so if one is a chimp, so is the other. I can hear it now... Das so Racist Yo!

I have not had health insurance since 1995 I still get excellent care, I don't have any fees out of pocket. To date I bet the total of my health care since then is in excess of $200k. Am I a slacker sucking off the tit of society?

Hey don't get in the way of a stupid argument.... He was on a roll... Kinda like when I was reading that congress was supposedly controlled by the republicans for 40 years. That was really funny, I bet the person who wrote it thinks they are extremely smart. Too bad they don't know shit. (or wait they do know SHIT!)

Did you ever do AFP?

He isn't even worth taking his organs for transplant...while wide awake and living.