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A hop and pack is when you jump and pull immediately. As youget more experience, the jargon will make more sense to you. No one is packing in freefall. Though it may not be such a bad thing. I think packing neatly is overrated anyway and if you cna pack in freefall, good for you. When i started jumping camelbaks ere not popular. Nowadays evreyone in Eloy seems to have one in the summer - probably just to look cool. I suspect most of the wannabes carry around empty camlbaks anyway. Who wants all that weight. Camelbaks under your rig will squirt beer down your throat not unlike a beer bong. filling a camelbak with beer flattens it. If you can do Vodka and diet Redbull do it - the regular Redbull is stickly becaus of sugar. Of course, wait until you have over 100 jumps and cna find the DZ under canopy when buzzed. Landing off and wasted and passing out in Farmer Creepys field and waking up in his barn with a sore ass is not cool. Not tha thats ever happend to me. Nipple Boy A-19820 This has got to be one of the funniest things I have read on here... Well done!

sell your hair. http://www.wisebread.com/how-to-sell-your-hair-for-cash It is worth a shot...

I asked a friend, his reply: Who's in Dublin, they have to notify me to see if I'll let them in!! Are they in South County Dublin or South Dublin city centre. If they are in the city centre they should go to a place called Japiur on the corner of Georges Street and Fade Street hope that helps!!

What happens now? Is there another criminal trial for the officers involved? It appears they killed this poor kid because he was "acting innocent", agreed that the officers were mistaken, but nothing else is to come of it. "The issue is closed for the family and the officers". I cannot fathom that… And why aren’t you rioting?

"in the name of" doesnt mean the "name" really wants that done. It only means you are using it to suit your needs.

JackC your argument holds no water. If I understand what you are saying then we should 1) hold McDonalds responsible because there are fat people 2) Hold Glock responsible when their gun is used in a crime 3) Even sue GM when their car is used in a drunk driving case. Follow that in with holding Johnny Walker responsible for making the swill that was drank I don’t see the validity of your argument, and I don’t need to. Your opinion is yours, it just seems based far more on emotion than fact. It also seems like you are writing as though you have read every religious book and teaching and you know what the real deal and you speak in absolutes. Have you read them all? I know I haven’t. Good discussion though. Cheers

I agree. I do not believe it was based on religion. If I gave that impression then it was a poorly worded post. Sorry.

Oh my goodness, you are making my point. You can take many lines from many different religious doctrine and turn or twist them however you want. How about asking Christians or Jews to reconcile Christianity or Judaism in light of an out-of-context verse from the Bible, such as: "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." (1 Samuel 15:3) Or this verse: "The people of Samaria must bear their guilt because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open." (Hosea 13:16) This is certainly not a fair or scientific way to understand the Bible nor the peaceful message of Christianity or Judaism. The Quran, like all other scriptures, cannot be understood except within its context. Taking a verse out of its theological or historical context can lead to misinterpretations, often the hallmark of extremists. Just as the Bible has been abused by fanatics to justify slavery and holocaust, so have Muslim fanatics abused the Quran to further their murderous agenda. The verse that you referred to, verse 4 from chapter 47, specifically refers to Muslim armies involved in a battle encounter. Here is a more authentic -- and less sensational -- translation: "So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterward either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates." That hardly seems to me to say what you are implying.

And it use to all be governed by Britain so we can blame the British... To me... and I have been wrong many times... Religion itself is pure. It is what man has done with it that makes it a sick and twisted mantra to justify murder and a calling card to allow suicide bombings while letting the people doing it and setting it up off the hook. In the simplest form, all religions teach peace, understanding and acceptance. You can take many passages from any religion and twist it into meaning you can kill and your God is OK with it. I just don’t believe that to actually be true.

Yes, that is right. Although I did have to go look again... What I did recall before reading, and reminded of again was at least they had a conscience about what they were doing. I can only imagine the internal turmoil one would have wondering/pondering and musing being the father of something that could destroy the world. : Upon witnessing the explosion, its creators had mixed reactions. Isidor Rabi felt that the equilibrium in nature had been upset as if humankind had become a threat to the world it inhabited. Robert Oppenheimer, though ecstatic about the success of the project, quoted a remembered fragment from the Bhagavad Gita. "I am become Death," he said, "the destroyer of worlds." Ken Bainbridge, the test director, told Oppenheimer, "Now we're all sons of bitches."

Sorry I miss your point. Pakistan is primarily Islamic India is primarily Hindu Are you saying this attack was relgion based as well?

I am kind of surprised at the title of this one. Come on, do you really think this has anything to do with being a Muslim? This happens to occur on the last day of Hajj, the most sacred week in their religion. The largest gathering of people, anywhere in the world, is the 3.5 million that go to Mecca each year for their faith. Peacefully worshipping. I don’t believe this has anything to do with being a Muslim. No more so than the Hindu’s that attacked Mumbai were doing it for religion. That is just silly. I work with MIW’s (men in white) every day and almost all of them care about the exact same things we do… are their families happy and healthy, are their kids going to get the best education they can, are they safe and secure, and most of them even like boobies!! The object of terror attacks is to inflict terror. They accomplished that goal.

No one helps because no one cares. At least, not in the halls of power that make such decisions to send troops and/or aid to cure these ills. What does the EU gain by helping? or the states? SA could do something but what is the down side if they don’t? More people in there illegally. (although, I did catch a story on Sky News that SA is now being hit with Cholera?) Unless it hits you (us) in the (lethal) wallet area we generally don’t do anything, and that sucks. NATO, the US, France, Britain, India and Russia all now have naval warships, expensive to build and costly to run, protecting shipping in the gulf of Aden. It hits those countries in the wallet so they react. This situation in Zimbabwe ranks less than the ships? More world reaction to that? Maybe we dislike pirates more than Mugabe ... No two ways about it, that guy should meet the business end of a sniper rifle.

Sorry... just got this email from CNN Breaking News. -- Auto bailout dies in Senate after compromise talks fail. If that hurts you personally that does bum me out. For the country I think it is a good thing. I also doubt it is totally dead. There will be some kind of exchange that gets federal loot so the CEO's can fill their jets back up...

All better… and properly credited What does it take to get a sunny hug? She seemed feisty in one of the other threads!!

Well... maybe not. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7777178.stm

No worries, been laughing this entire thread... Tea Cake... damn it, have to change that sig line now! Thats some good crack right there!

That was more intended for the entire industry than pointed at you...

You are funny

i was taught to shoot an attacker into his extremeties, i.e. arms, but preferably the legs. your comment is very ignorant. and usually a gun is the last line of defense, there are peppersprays, clubs and i dont know what not before you pull your gun.. To shoot at the extremities? Serious? I was always told, from shooting rabbits and deer when I was younger to training when I was older; when you shoot, shoot to kill. That goes right back to stopping whatever imminent threat is upon you, quickly. I have yet to be in a position to say “well, I have to shoot that guy, but I don’t want to kill him so let me shoot him in the leg”. Maybe I should just throw rocks at him.

I don’t see GE, IBM, Microsoft, Nike, Office Depot or any other number of huge companies not having to go begging to the Federal government asking for the tax paying public to bail them out. Run your company, run it right, know that bad turns happen and ride it out. Let the mismanaged ones fall as the herd is thinned out and weak are dined upon by the stronger ones. Sure it is going to hurt. Suck it up, cupcake (some damn Brit told me that!)

Overkill certainly if that is indeed what happened. Of course, that story line came out after the riots started, no? Revisionist history, perhaps to place blame and try to quell the masses? hmmm... why would you throw stones at people that have guns? there is a chance they might shoot you, ya know...

Wasn’t it Oppenheimer that said he was afraid that if they continued to find a way to split the atom the atmosphere might ignite…. He was SOOO wrong!! You guys go for it!

I asked my state senator to please stop this at all costs. This was her reply: Thank you for your e-mail. It is very important to me to know the issues that are of concern to you. A growing number of my constituents are now choosing to communicate with me via e-mail. I hope you will understand that, because of the volume and range of e-mails I receive, it can take some time to send a response that specifically addresses the subject raised in your message. I do, however, want to let you know immediately that your message has been received. Hearing from you and others through e-mail helps me to quickly learn the views and interests of New Yorkers and others, which is very helpful to me in my work in the United States Senate. I hope you will continue to monitor my work through my website at http://clinton.senate.gov, and I welcome hearing from you. Sincerely, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton I dont thinks she is really going to read my email

I believe that people are generally good. For the most part we are… Groups of people; mobs, gangs, rioters, are not. When the mob mentality takes over it brings out the worst in all of the participants and as the man or women next to me is doing what they want, I can do what I want, regardless of the rules or laws, right or wrong. I agree with lawrocket, there was no discernable righteous reason to start these riots; it is nothing more than a convenient excuse to be an asshole. On aside; the police report when first hitting me here, said the kid that was shot was in the midst of throwing a lit, gasoline filled bottle at the cop car they were standing by and both officers shot at the kid. Should that indeed be the real reason for shooting the kid I wouldn’t have a problem with it at all.