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long waits occur because of the number of people in line and the jump rate. as many believe it felt slower, I wonder what the data suggests? (Kramer talked about 1 jumper every 20 seconds in the pre-jump briefing.) more importantly, what can we do to make next year better? sure we can flood Jason with ideas. but I'm betting he considered most of them. I'd like to suggest that people volunteer their time and ask to help. give Jason the luxury of being massively overstaffed and I bet he can improve the jump rate. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

this is true no matter which helmet you use. like cars crumpling, helmets absorb energy. hard impacts leave small, invisible stress fractures. these will reduce the protection level of the helmet. do NOT trust any helmet that has received a hard shot. while it IS better than nothing, the protection will be much lower. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

it was an amazing weekend, with few hitches. aside from the trains, I think the good weather made the lines (and waits) longer. last year, jumpers got wet and decided to go back to the hotel. not this year. I saw a lot of folks going right back up. it also was amazing to hear from Shubert & Pelkey! it really rounded out the event. Jason, Bill, and their cadre of volunteers pulled off an outstanding event. thanks to all. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

hmmm... I'm confused. should I mention if I attended in either 2003 or 2004? either way, I'll be at the Holiday Inn tomorrow! (that's for BD 2005, in case this thread gets resurrected again!

look at that lingo! you're just trying to mess with Faber, aren't you? DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

if Jaap's links jumped to a commercial filled website, I'd agree. the WIKI attempts to collect the common wisdom. links to it should be viewed as linking to another thread on this website. no more, no less. the beauty of the WIKI is that it organizes the information, making it easier to find... and it leaves out digressions like this one! DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

one S has been mentioned a few times, pictures posted, and locals complained. it was not in the US. I have no idea if your picture is the same one. the cool part is your mother helping you scout out sites! congrats! be thankful and appreciative. not all jumpers are as lucky as you. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

uh... try to find your voice. it looks like you'll need to do some talking! maybe you can show Mike Pelkey around as well. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

$20? done. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

I briefly looked at the site. great idea. thanks for setting it up! now to find time to read it... DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

I've watched a jumper inexplicably plant face first against the ground. she remained loopy for a long time. but the cheap skydiving helmet saved her teeth! so... if you have one available, you can use it. it will be better than none, and can help. but the motorbike helmets remain superior options. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

for me, it's the best way to take command of knowledge. it's the way to know your subject through and through. I'd much rather be at an exit point going, "hmmm, if I do this, then such and such will happen," instead of "now what did so-and-so say about this situation?" much confidence arises from thoroughly knowing a subject. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

my $0.02: DO NOT expect anyone, other than yourself, to take responsibility for you. others will tell you things. it's up to YOU to determine if it is correct. being inquisitive, thoughtful, creative, knowledgeable, able to think for yourself, etc. can only help. being dependent upon others will not. FJC's are great to help people avoid known mistakes. competent instructors are trying to teach you stuff THEY WISH THEY HAD KNOWN. so, I guess my best advise is to be cocky and confident enough to think you don't need a FJC/mentor, but humble enough to sit quietly and listen to both! DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

Douglas Adams already revealed how mice control all. see the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

I say any BASE experience you walk away unhurt has been a good one. actually jumping is not required. heck, the other day I was at a wonderful site. we thought the conditions were excellent, except for the really black sky. we said "No" because the landing area was just too dark (it had obstacles as well). but I had fun checking it out! DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

was the velcro worn or new? was the jumper flexing in a way that helped pull it apart? was it closed in a rush? I think velcro rigs can do a fine job. the user simply must know their equipment and watch for it's potential issues (velcro OR pin). DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

deleted. author eliminated my confusion by editing his post. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

sarcasm? not that time. not everyone seems to see the article entitled "Getting into BASE". you might have seen it, or like others, you might not. how was I to know? DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

uh, have you read the articles linked at the top of this forum? that always is a useful start. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

Tom, would Don be up for an interview? I just think the contrast between him and a ranger spouting the official line would speak volumes... rangers and badges... Don and his dogs... both watching a lz. the rangers view BASE from conflict, as if no good can come from it. Don views it from cooperation, knowing how it benefits his city. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

I have no idea how to compress all your ideas into a 10 minute project, but I'd love to see the longer version... for the short, you could start at the BD lz, filming the heavy ranger presense, maybe with some interviews. later, contrast it by showing the Potato lz. you could include the audio of a call into the local police/sheriff notifying them about an impending jump. 'course an interview with a first timer (yourself?) and one of the highly experienced jumpers (Marta?) seems appropriate. Marta would rob the viewer of thinking it's a crazy male act of stupidity, and she can stress moving to UT for legal jumps. clips of a FJC or a gear manufacturer talking about the equipment could show how much preparation and thought is involved. heck, if done well, your work might be useful in access fights! good luck! DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

having your own personal tower? priceless! for everything else, there's... DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

it's one of the points I attempted to make! hopefully, you've stated it a bit clearer. I also feel that those outside contributors are more likely to become allies in any access fight. can you imagine collecting e-mails with the contributions? we may gain the address of influential people. if not, we still have a larger pool of potential letter writers. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

basically, that is what I meant. from what I can tell, the charity won, Miles got attention, and BASE gained further acceptance from the locals. places still exist where someone can buy their way in and still not be accepted. support from the non-jumping locals is a sign of acceptance. the outside funds show a stronger, eh, "base" for the BASE community. remember, there are more people (and more money) outside our sport than in. the more support we gain from them, the stronger our argument becomes over access issues. thanks Miles! edited to add: p.s. celebrities are regularly seen in the US passing out dinners at the holidays, or presents at the hospital. they don't have to, they easily could let their money speak. but they want the PR, the connection with the locals. by gaining financial support from non-jumpers, Miles has demonstrated the same sort of connection. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse

I don't know th final tally, but for more information, see: http://www.magicvalley.com/articles/2005/09/17/news_topstory/news_topstory.1.txt I'm also interested in how much money he raised. it'd be awesome if he raised his goal of $20,000 mostly FROM NON-JUMPERS! congratulations to Miles! oh, and kudos to Tree for recognizing the accomplishment. DON'T PANIC The lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. sloppy habits -> sloppy jumps -> injury or worse