jerryzflies

It's easy; if you don't like the terms, don't take the taxpayers' money. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

It would seem to me that declaring war on a third world country without UN sanction, or Congressional approval kind of puts all this into perspective. Bypassing Congress is the "Norm" Where is all dem WMD's???? Ah, 17 UN resolutions and the blessings of Congress. Dailykos is not a good place to get yer info.... It beats Newsmax or the Washington Times, though. Why don't YOU, as a citizen, file suit against the government and put your money where your keyboard is? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Seems like a waste of paper. The Supreme Court makes decisions about Constitutionality. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

I'm on the record as to being not thrilled with GMs management. However, publicly traded companies are owned by shareholders. This was a loan, not a stock-purchase, and therefore, the stockholders have just been sidestepped completely. Just wait, the next CEO will not be voted in by the Board of Directors or shareholders in a clean fashion. Now that the government has their finger in this, they will not remove it. When a business goes to a bank for a loan, the bank can make conditions. In this case the banks have so screwed themselves (and the rest of us) that the only available lender is the govt. So the govt. gets to make conditions instead. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Isn't this basically part of what you asked for? From 11/17/08 - Before GWB gave GM the funds and BHO was President: Quoted from this thread: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3397135;#3397150 They also fufilled your request to suspended the Job Banks.... Yes, but back last year Gawain was telling us there was no recession. Remember the "R-word" thread he started? I detect a lack of credibility. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Very funny. Do you know what the Daily Kos is? (Apparently not). The AIG bailout was started under the Bush administration and coordinated by Bush's Treasury Secretary. As far as losing ground is concerned, you do not seem to be correct: www.gallup.com/poll/112006/Gallup-Daily-Confidence-Obama.aspx Hmmm - which party do Bush and Paulson belong to? Who wrote the AIG bailout terms? WHo appointed Bernancke? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Very funny. Do you know what the Daily Kos is? (Apparently not). The AIG bailout was started under the Bush administration and coordinated by Bush's Treasury Secretary. As far as losing ground is concerned, you do not seem to be correct: www.gallup.com/poll/112006/Gallup-Daily-Confidence-Obama.aspx If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

I see the Washington Times has now retracted the editorial, saying it was an "error". I can't believe that anyone would believe anything in the WT without checking with a reputable source first. I suppose it all depends on what they WANT tp believe. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

It also illustrates that being armed with a gun and and trained in its use is not a sure defense against an armed criminal, contrary to popular opinion around here. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Bullsh*t. There is no nonsense. Congress, Geithner, Presidents Bush and Obama all knew the score when they starting bailing AIG out. . The AIG bailout started under Bush/Paulson. Not that facts should bother anyone on a good rant. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

You're late to the party. www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3518605;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Fascinating site, [url "http://sosvets.blogspot.com/"]this. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Half the distance to the goal, and automatic first down. Figuratively speaking, of course. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

+1 But that is not what Obama is planning Obama is planning to take billions from the government? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

I don't think pilots would be as highly trained in firearms tactics as police officers, and apparently that is not always sufficient. www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gd2xGykkCnfLhKopnaeC8-qYjWEAD97398LO4 I hope all those optimists who think that having a gun makes them safe against an armed criminal take notice. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Agreed. If taxpayers foot the bill for these "executives'" screw ups, then taxpayers have the right to impose limits. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Source? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

It's the rich you are thinking of who avoid taxes, have accounts in the Cayman Islands, and are the biggest NIMBYs. Doesn't matter which party they support. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Perhaps I'm being slow at the moment ... I'm not following what you mean by "deliberate." Also not sure to whom "deliberate" refers? /Marg I was over-analyzing so I was having this feeling Obama's remark was intentional. To me the "Special Olympics" joke is on par with and just as juvenile as a "your momma" joke so I was having a difficult time wrapping my head around why Obama would make such a remark. But after watching the clip again it's fairly obvious the remark was 'off-the-cuff.' The look on Leno's face was priceless. So in the end I don't think it was that big of deal, however, it does say a lot about our President. You are dead on. I did not think it was a big deal myself. My problem is how differetly it is being report vs others who made stupid remarks It is indeed. When Bush made stupid remarks people laughed at the stupidity of the remark. When Obama made a stupid remark there's "outrage" and "President A$$hole" and "deliberate" and "shocked, and horribly disappointed" and "offensive". Double standard indeed. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Why are you equating pensions with bonuses? The execs getting undeserved bonuses are the people who have destroyed a large part of the pensions of millions of working Americans. Even though Bush did his job badly, his pension isn't a bonus. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

They should be ashamed too. ALL of the Wall Street fat cats whose greed created this mess should be ashamed. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Very funny, that. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Interesting but TOTALLY irrelevant to the point under discussion. The Red states, on average, sponge off the Blue states, and Alaska is the biggest sponger of them all. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Which "top performers" would these be in companies that needed bailing out by taxpayers like me. NO company should have gotten any money. But, that is water now under the bridge. However, prior to the money being handed out Giethner, Dodd and most likely Obama KNEW the bonus's would be handed out. Other than Obama this is a fact. This bonus story is a bogus story. Hope the Senate and House dont make a vilian out of you or your company. Seems they dont need a court to go after your personal info From AP this morning: Robert Willens, a corporate tax lawyer in New York, said the Senate bonus tax bill would still allow bailout beneficiaries to negotiate higher salaries with employees to compensate for lost bonuses. The Senate bill authorizes the Treasury to issue regulations preventing firms from masking bonus payments as salaries, but it does not prevent firms from handing out raises. "If the vast majority of bonuses become fixed salaries that would harm the institutions because they would have higher fixed costs," Willens said. "What happens if the bank suffers through a poor year? It has all these fixed obligations they have to meet. That's the beauty of the bonuses." WHAT? What if they have a POOR year? What exactly was last year? A bonanza for banks? These Wall Street fat cats are totally out of touch with reality. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

100% - 31% = 69% 69% > 2/3 See how easy that was? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.