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And YOU omitted this part of Admiral Blair's statement on 4/21: "The information gained from these techniques was valuable in some instances, but there is no way of knowing whether the same information could have been obtained through other means. The bottom line is these techniques have hurt our image around the world, the damage they have done to our interests far outweighed whatever benefit they gave us and they are not essential to our national security. "We do not need these techniques to keep America safe." If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Could it be that instead of a single thinking organism, maybe there are actual PEOPLE with independent thoughts that might not entirely agree exactly with every one else within that collective group? Nice try. However, the evidence of this forum over the past 3 months is that the right will take any opportunity to bash Obama, even if it means contradicting themselves over the space of a few hours. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

And I thought ICCM was just an odd way of writing 799 in Roman numerals. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Anyone who thinks English food is unhealthy hasn't tried Scottish food. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

From your link: "In a 250-page quarterly report to Congress, the rescue program's special inspector general concludes that a private-public partnership designed to rid financial institutions of their "toxic assets" is tilted in favor of private investors and creates "potential unfairness to the taxpayer." Yet in another thread today we hear the whine about Obama taking us headlong to Socialism. Why can't you right wingers decide what your message is? Contradicting yourselves makes you look kind of silly. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Would that include overlapping your seat in the coach section of the plane? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Scary dude! If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

"In 2005, motivated in part by the global and domestic outcry over the Abu Ghraib scandal, Congress passed the Detainee Treatment Act, which prohibits all cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment and requires that all interrogations in military facility comply with the Army Field Manual. The law was weakened by amendments and the White House's attempt at circumventing the limits on detainee torture. "Congress followed this bill protecting detainees by passing the Military Commissions Act which created the framework for panels of military officers to try Guantánamo detainees who are charged with war crimes. Officially, the bill bans torture, but was controversial because it also strips detainees of basic due process rights, including the ability to challenge their detention in court or bar testimony acquired through coercion. The passage of the act was seen as a victory for President George W. Bush because it embraced his view that the battle against terrorism requires extreme limits on the rights of defendants." "On March 7, 2008, President Bush vetoed the Intelligence Authorization Act, criticizing the bill for abandoning "practices that have a proven track record of keeping America safe. The Intelligence Authorization Bill, which cleared the House in December 2007 and passed the Senate in February 2008, would ban the controversial practice known as waterboarding, as well as sensory deprivation or other harsh coercive methods to break a prisoner who refuses to answer questions." If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

You should memorize this list too, since you'll have to deal with all of them. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

You don't need to. You've got a signed statement from the Justice Department saying that it is. How's that for confusing? On one hand, it is. Otoh, federal laws (including any international laws that have been ratified by the US Senate) trump executive orders and memos (DOJ/John Yoo's interpretation) every time. Yes, but remember that the laws were thought unclear, which is why clarification was necessary. The laws were and are very clear. Bush's DoJ deliberately muddied the waters. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

The IRS documents are very clear on who the biggest tax cheats are. Self-employed people, small business owners, and the very wealthy. Now that may well be because regular wage or salary earning working people have little opportunity to cheat, but it doesn't alter the facts. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Do you subscribe to the "If you're not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about" movement? Even jerks have rights. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

The religious right reaping what it sowed. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

And there would have been even more if those people had not been armed to defend themselves. So you wish more law-abiding people were unarmed and at the mercy of criminals? You want store clerks to be murdered by armed robbers? You want families in their own homes to be gunned down by invaders? Who here has suggested disarming law-abiding, sane adults? Oh, no-one has. You might find this applies to your post. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

That's good. I see you went back to April 1. To provide a little balance, since then there will have been over 400 gun homicides in the USA, including a bunch of mass shootings, assuming a typical month of gun mayhem. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Not according to Gallup (link already provided). Average 1st quarter approval: GWB - 58% BO - 63% Note - that's GALLUP, not gallop If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Which shows just how poor your understanding of the Constitution really is, since that was not the point. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Glad you liked it. What it has "to do with" is that the US public likes what they have now much much more than what they had a few months ago, and rushmc's perpetual whining about Obama just shows how out of touch he is. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

apparently speculation is now spelled "tax gap" Google "get a f*cking job, work hard, get educated, get motivated, and make something of yourself so you dont live off the government your entire life and waste our tax dollars" educate yourself. How will that change the behavior of wealthy tax cheats? I object to wealthy people who cheat on their taxes to the grand total of around $300 Billion (source: IRS) more than I object to illegal immigrants who may have cheated the rest of us out of $1.8 Billion (according to the OP). If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

This thread started with complaints about people that broke the law before they illegally took IRS tax credits...talk about double standards. If these bad-rich-evil-tax-evading people are so wide spread, where's the all the news over the convictions for evasion? It's hype. It's class warfare. It's populism. Keep moving with the struggle for the people...yeah! Down with those with the money to create business and jobs! I haven't condoned illegals taking tax credits they shouldn't. You, however, appear to have no issue with rich people cheating on their taxes. Since the rich appear to be stealing about 100x as much from the taxpayers as the poor illegal aliens, I'm surprised you stick up for their thievery. source or speculation? Google "tax gap" and educate yourself. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

I have letters from my Senators in reference to confirmation hearings for members of the Cabinet who f**ked their taxes that say otherwise. Bottom line: You are complaining about people that may, or may not be breaking the law. For something so widespread, there's an apparent lack of convictions happening here. Why is that? . WRONG - I'm complaining about people who ARE breaking the law according to the IRS. I'm not complaining about people who pay what they owe. This thread started with complaints about people that broke the law before they illegally took IRS tax credits...talk about double standards. If these bad-rich-evil-tax-evading people are so wide spread, where's the all the news over the convictions for evasion? It's hype. It's class warfare. It's populism. Keep moving with the struggle for the people...yeah! Down with those with the money to create business and jobs! I haven't condoned illegals taking tax credits they shouldn't. You, however, appear to have no issue with rich people cheating on their taxes. Since the rich appear to be stealing about 100x as much from the taxpayers as the poor illegal aliens, I'm surprised you stick up for their thievery. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

Opinion pieces don't count, and all the Pew data prove is that Republicans don't like Obama From GALLUP www.gallup.com/poll/117598/Obama-Averages-Approval-First-Quarter.aspx "Obama's 63% first-quarter [approval rating] average matches the historical average of 63% for elected presidents' first quarters since 1953". What was Bush's approval 5 months ago? 30% or less? If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

You can say the Moon is made of green cheese if you think no-one is going to check. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

It WAS Gallup. You really should read what's posted before you post rubbish in response. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.

IF, and only if what was done was torture. It was not. And whether or not you argree with me does not matter. Cause the courts do agree with me. THAT is why Obama says he will not go after anybody. As if his admin could do legally anyway. After all, he is in the executive branch of our gov, not the judicial branch. Marc, you are wrong, you know you are wrong, we know you are wrong, and you should leave the weaseling to others because you are no good at it. If you can't fix it with a hammer, the problem's electrical.