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Of course, I was being intentionally pompous.

Now that the law has run its course and the appropriate but long overdue sentence has finally been carried out I can forgive Tookie. Tookie I hope you're in a better place, with the people you blew away in cold blood.

According to him he didn't. Turned around by denying the murders he so clearly committed while refusing to show any remorse for them. But hey, he wrote kiddies books. You're right, blasting a prone family man twice in the back and a woman in the face with a shotgun after killing her parents is small potatoes, forget the victims' families, think of the children! The only question I have here is how many others did 'Tookie' murder in cold blood and get away with? Bwahaha! I'm proud of him. Great call and eloquent rejection of the illformed arguments & outright lies presented in support of clemency.

STATEMENT OF DECISION FROM GOV. ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER ON REQUEST FOR CLEMENCY BY STANLEY WILLIAMS Stanley Williams has been convicted of brutally murdering four people during two separate armed robberies in February and March 1979. A California jury sentenced him to death, and he is scheduled for execution on December 13, 2005. During the early morning hours of February 28, 1979, Williams and three others went on a robbery spree. Around 4 a.m., they entered a 7-Eleven store where Albert Owens was working by himself. Here, Williams, armed with his pumpaction shotgun, ordered Owens to a backroom and shot him twice in the back while he lay face down on the floor. Williams and his accomplices made off with about $120 from the store's cash register. After leaving the 7-Eleven store, Williams told the others that he killed Albert Owens because he did not want any witnesses. Later that morning, Williams recounted shooting Albert Owens, saying "You should have heard the way he sounded when I shot him." Williams then made a growling noise and laughed for five to six minutes. On March 11, 1979, less than two weeks later, Williams, again armed with his shotgun, robbed a family-operated motel and shot and killed three members of the family: (1) the father, Yen-I Yang, who was shot once in the torso and once in the arm while he was laying on a sofa; (2) the mother, Tsai-Shai Lin, who was shot once in the abdomen and once in the back; and (3) the daughter, Yee-Chen Lin, who was shot once in her face. For these murders, Williams made away with approximately $100 in cash. Williams also told others about the details of these murders and referred to the victims as "Buddha-heads." Now, his appeals exhausted, Williams seeks mercy in the form of a petition for clemency. He claims that he deserves clemency because he has undergone a personal transformation and is redeemed, and because there were problems with his trial that undermine the fairness of the jury's verdict. Williams' case has been thoroughly reviewed in the 24 years since his convictions and death sentence. In addition to his direct appeal to the California Supreme Court, Williams has filed five state habeas corpus petitions, each of which has been rejected. The federal courts have also reviewed his convictions and death sentence. Williams filed a federal habeas corpus petition, and the U.S. District Court denied it. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals confirmed this decision. In all, Williams' case has been the subject of at least eight substantive judicial opinions. The claim that Williams received an unfair trial was the subject of this extensive litigation in the state and federal courts. The courts considered the sufficiency of his counsel, the strategic nature of counsel's decisions during the penalty phase of Williams' trial, the adequacy and reliability of testimony from informants, whether Williams was prejudiced by security measures employed during his trial, whether he was competent to stand trial, whether the prosecutor impermissibly challenged potential jurors on the basis of race, and whether his jury was improperly influenced by Williams' threats made against them. There is no need to rehash or second guess the myriad findings of the courts over 24 years of litigation. The possible irregularities in Williams' trial have been thoroughly and carefully reviewed by the courts, and there is no reason to disturb the judicial decisions that uphold the jury's decisions that he is guilty of these four murders and should pay with his life. The basis of Williams' clemency request is not innocence. Rather, the basis of the request is the "personal redemption Stanley Williams has experienced and the positive impact of the message he sends." But Williams' claim of innocence remains a key factor to evaluating his claim of personal redemption. It is impossible to separate Williams' claim of innocence from his claim of redemption. Cumulatively, the evidence demonstrating Williams is guilty of these murders is strong and compelling. It includes: (1) eyewitness testimony of Alfred Coward, who was one of Williams' accomplices in the 7-Eleven shooting; (2) ballistics evidence proving that the shotgun casing found at the scene of the motel murders was fired from Williams' shotgun; (3) testimony from Samuel Coleman that Williams confessed that he had robbed and killed some people on Vermont Street (where the motel was located); (4) testimony from James and Esther Garrett that Williams admitted to them that he committed both sets of murders; and (5) testimony from jailhouse informant George Oglesby that Williams confessed to the motel murders and conspired with Oglesby to escape from county jail. The trial evidence is bolstered by information from Tony Sims, who has admitted to being an accomplice in the 7-Eleven murder. Sims did not testify against Williams at trial, but he was later convicted of murder for his role in Albert Owens' death. During his trial and subsequent parole hearings, Sims has repeatedly stated under oath that Williams was the shooter. Based on the cumulative weight of the evidence, there is no reason to second guess the jury's decision of guilt or raise significant doubts or serious reservations about Williams' convictions and death sentence. He murdered Albert Owens and Yen-I Yang, Yee-Chen Lin and Tsai-Shai Lin in cold blood in two separate incidents that were just weeks apart. But Williams claims that he is particularly deserving of clemency because he has reformed and been redeemed for his violent past. Williams' claim of redemption triggers an inquiry into his atonement for all his transgressions. Williams protests that he has no reason to apologize for these murders because he did not commit them. But he is guilty and a close look at Williams' post-arrest and postconviction conduct tells a story that is different from redemption. After Williams was arrested for these crimes, and while he was awaiting trial, he conspired to escape from custody by blowing up a jail transportation bus and killing the deputies guarding the bus. There are detailed escape plans in Williams' own handwriting. Williams never executed this plan, but his co-conspirator implicated Williams in the scheme. The fact that Williams conspired to murder several others to effectuate his escape from jail while awaiting his murder trial is consistent with guilt, not innocence. And the timing of the motel murders--less than two weeks after the murder of Albert Owens--shows a callous disregard for human life. Williams has written books that instruct readers to avoid the gang lifestyle and to stay out of prison. In 1996, a Tookie Speaks Out Against Gang Violence children's book series was published. In 1998, "Life in Prison" was published. In 2004, Williams published a memoir entitled "Blue Rage, Black Redemption." He has also recently (since 1995) tried to preach a message of gang avoidance and peacemaking, including a protocol for street peace to be used by opposing gangs. It is hard to assess the effect of such efforts in concrete terms, but the continued pervasiveness of gang violence leads one to question the efficacy of Williams' message. Williams co-founded the Crips, a notorious street gang that has contributed and continues to contribute to predatory and exploitative violence. The dedication of Williams' book "Life in Prison" casts significant doubt on his personal redemption. This book was published in 1998, several years after Williams' claimed redemptive experience. Specifically, the book is dedicated to "Nelson Mandela, Angela Davis, Malcolm X, Assata Shakur, Geronimo Ji Jaga Pratt, Ramona Africa, John Africa, Leonard Peltier, Dhoruba Al-Mujahid, George Jackson, Mumia Abu-Jamal, and the countless other men, women, and youths who have to endure the hellish oppression of living behind bars." The mix of individuals on this list is curious. Most have violent pasts and some have been convicted of committing heinous murders, including the killing of law enforcement. But the inclusion of George Jackson on this list defies reason and is a significant indicator that Williams is not reformed and that he still sees violence and lawlessness as a legitimate means to address societal problems. There is also little mention or atonement in his writings and his plea for clemency of the countless murders committed by the Crips following the lifestyle Williams once espoused. The senseless killing that has ruined many families, particularly in African-American communities, in the name of the Crips and gang warfare is a tragedy of our modern culture. One would expect more explicit and direct reference to this byproduct of his former lifestyle in Williams' writings and apology for this tragedy, but it exists only through innuendo and inference. Is Williams' redemption complete and sincere, or is it just a hollow promise? Stanley Williams insists he is innocent, and that he will not and should not apologize or otherwise atone for the murders of the four victims in this case. Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings there can be no redemption. In this case, the one thing that would be the clearest indication of complete remorse and full redemption is the one thing Williams will not do. Clemency decisions are always difficult, and this one is no exception. After reviewing and weighing the showing Williams has made in support of his clemency request, there is nothing that compels me to nullify the jury's decision of guilt and sentence and the many court decisions during the last 24 years upholding the jury's decision with a grant of clemency. Therefore, based on the totality of circumstances in this case, Williams' request for clemency is denied. DATED: December 12, 2005 ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER Governor of the State of California

No worries. You made me look.

Gee, my name was in the subject line and everything, and the "in reply to" link took me back to my post. Nope, sorry I just didn't reply to you, but you made me do a double take. You are confused.

What part of my post did you not understand? rl When I'm talking to you you'll know.

Don't worry this is opening a few people's eyes. Let the activists rail against justice. If they were smart they'd find a better cause than this.

Going back to the Latin can get you in trouble, English is not latin, (especially the way you did): http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=atheist http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=agnostic

Let me clarify what I was saying to you and the poster you responded to. You sort of agreed with this: "atheism is not the belief that god does not exist but the absence of belief in god. " That is wrong, Atheism IS a belief that God does not exist.

You are confusing an atheist with an agnostic. You may need a new category :-)

Yup, you posted your correction after I responded.

Depending on the circumstances I may have arrested the big guy with the weapon who appears to have repeatedly assaulted an old lady while she was trying to turn herself in.

Never underestimate the utility of a paper bag.

You haven't seen Al's legs!

Your beer is safe, that is not actually what she said. Google might help you find the facts. from here So she was talking to her audience, and she did refer to them as stupider than her, but that's not what she said? Blues, Dave She was talking about the people who came to stop her speaking, by heckling and playing loud music from the audience. She said it after she was forced to discontinue her presentation. Not what I'd call her audience, more like a small group of people in the room denying her an audience. The real story here is conservative speakers routinely being denied a platform by orchestrated hypocritical agitators who pretend they champion such issues. So someone standing up and talking is shouted down like many other speakers on campus because they don't want anyone exposed to that point of view on their campus and the only thing you can do is giggle about a willful misinterpretation of the speakers reaction.

Your beer is safe, that is not actually what she said. Google might help you find the facts.

Skinny and Cute Raw score: 33% Big Breasts, 40% Big Ass, and 76% Cute! Who knew! P.S. Oh, apparently it's Jessica Alba (yups!) and Natalie Portman (not after seeing Star Wars I II III) for me.

Yep, the old lady probably needed a little lesson anyway. Exactly! I mean they won't let the poor guy work out is frustrations with his night stick on old ladies anymore, so what else can he do? He really had no choice, it was a desperate situation.

You know how it is, someone gives you a shiny new tazer and you just gotta try it out on the nearest perp. http://www.nbc4i.com/news/5486903/detail.html

Until Goddard proved otherwise, a lot of scientists believed rockets would not work in a vacuum because "they have nothing to push against". Misconception. I'd know if my round was the blank. Glitter's nuts wouldn't explode after the loud bang.

How brave do you have to be to die if you're convinced there's a harem of virgins waiting for you in paradise?

It's surprising the amount of synmpathy this crook is getting. A few more guys like this and the USA would be a corrupt turd world shit hole. I picture Washington walking away from absolute power and into the political process after the revolution then I see this piece of garbage crying like a little fucking girl because he got caught. The shame was always there (not just when he got caught) but he was happy to take the bribes. I don't care what party the guy is from he's comitted one of the worst crimes you can in this imperfect political system and while he was on one of the most important committies in the nation. Even if they give him the maximum sentence it won't be enough. Hold up a grocery store and you'd probably get a longer sentence than this guy will. Yep he served his country but he also parlayed that into huge status and power. Right before he shat on it. Fuck off and cry on your cellmate's shoulder you greedy bastard.

Sorry to see you broke yourself, definitely not amusing. Edit: looks like you learned more than just wing loading, sounds like a classic low turn before you had the knowledge to flat turn (no PLF?). Jumping with a correctly sized canopy is not a guarantee of safety. I am a similar weight and learned just fine on Sabres and Navigators at about the same wing loading as your Spanish misadventure. On my 2nd AFF, I did a x-wind 'landing' rather than turn low (after a long spot), I could have easily wound up like you. P.S. X-rays are much cooler than photos of staples.

If you have a contact send the original owner Cheryl a link to the add, just incase it's stolen. I don't see how a legitimate owner of an item like this could be so uninformed about its function.