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Yep, I pretty much agree with that. I feel the same way about PMI certification, which is one of the reasons I haven't pursued it, either. There are organizations that live and die by it, though, just as there are organizations for which Six Sigma certification is a critical thing. I have an MBA and a ton of practical, hands-on process improvement experience and project management experience. Any methodology is just going to give me another set of tools and a common language that I can use within an organization to apply my real-world experience and common sense (which we all know isn't that common anymore). I want to learn about it for the sole purpose of being able to talk about it intelligently in an interview with an organization for whom this methodology is important, and to show that I've spent my time off learning about something that is important to a lot of organizations. I can spend a lot of time giving real-world examples, and if it's important to them that I get certified, we can talk about how they're going to pay for my training after they hire me. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

In the interest of actually using my "time off" wisely, I'm hoping to learn a bit about Six Sigma. I have done a lot of process improvement work, but don't have any formal training. I am not sure I'm ready to bite the bullet and pay for a full Six Sigma training course myself (at those prices, it seems like something you make your employer pay for, right?), but I thought it would make sense to at least get a few books and learn as much as I can about the concepts so I can demonstrate a working knowledge of the fundamentals and an interest in further education since so many of the job listings I'm seeing are looking for certification (or at least familiarity) with these methodologies. Can any of you black belts/green belts recommend any particularly good book choices? My local library has this one, and it sounded good. Any others I should keep an eye out for at the library or used bookstores? "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

Which one is that, then? Sign up for a Premier membership and you'll find out. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

True, but that's not the special forum. Yes it is - it is the only one with it's own specific rules - and gender bias - that makes it special. It's not the one I was referring to. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

True, but that's not the special forum. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

WOW! Is one of the benefits of premier membership unlimited bitching?! Cool! We do have a special forum for our problems. But I've never tried unlimited bitching in there. BRB. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

Anyone else going to be at the (rescheduled) 10-way speed meet? This is my one of these. I got talked into coming down for the original event at the last minute, but even though it got canceled it sounded like so much fun I rescheduled to come down. Info from the Elsinore calendar: "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

Hey, at least the old man's still got it. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

I think I love Jimmy even more. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

For $9, that lemon better dance, talk, grant you 3 wishes......Or something! The lemon itself was only like 35 cents. It was the rest of the stuff I bought with it that was the problem... damn produce section sales. Yellow and red bell peppers on sale. And blueberries. And bananas. You see, one lemon gets very expensive that way. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

If they'd given me a little more warning or a little more severance ... maybe. But unfortunately "today's your last day and here's your two weeks severance 'package' nice working with you" does not make for lots of freedom to gallavant. But maybe once I have the next gig lined up I'll have to conveniently delay the start date. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

I bought a $9 lemon yesterday. 'nuff said. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

Well, then, I guess it's a good thing I got laid off! No one can come after me now! Then again if I still had a job I probably wouldn't have spent so much time on this thread. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

No, no, no, bytch, you haven't been paying attention. Squeak's already told us he doesn't care about any of our actual driving habits, nor whether we actually fill a tank once a day, once a week, once a month, or once a year. The only thing that matters is HOW MUCH MONEY YOU MAKE AND HOW MUCH YOU SPEND TO FILL YOUR TANK. We're all quite dim, you see. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

Sorry, Squeak, I'll make my question a little more obvious. Why? "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

So what is it about, given that you've got three* variables driving a single value (take-home pay, size of tank, and price per unit of gas)? What do you want to learn about your fellow dz.commers? *four if you include grade/type of gas, but I'll keep this simple. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

Under canopy. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

Thanks for the DD. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

You eliminated my best story by including this caveat "after a very heavy night of drinking." Oh well. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

I got what you were saying. Nor does it work for those of us who currently have no take-home pay. When I did, though, the math worked out to the first option even though I don't fill my tank anything close to weekly (oh, wait, that's not what that poll is about, right). "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

I don't have any kids of my own, but I've had other skydivers' teenage kids pack for me. As far as I'm concerned, packer is a great job for an enterprising dropzone kid. It's a job with a lot of responsibility, they're going to get rewarded with loyal customers and good tips if they provide good customer service and quality, and they can probably make a lot more than they can at the mall or mowing lawns. As soon as they're old enough to understand what they're doing and physically big enough to do it, why the hell not? "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

At some point, if you haven't already when your son asks "Why, Mommy?" (or perhaps "Why not, Mommy?") you're just going to say "Because I said so" and there might not be a better answer than that on that day. This might be one of those days. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

Franklin thinks putting laundry away is a game. "Ooh, sleeve!" "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

I've missed you too, bri. "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke

The 20th prez doesn't get enough publicity. I think we should talk about him more. Since he's so old school ... does that count as Speakers Corner fare, though? "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke